Heh, I've seen a group (yes, 5 people) from one of the power-house guilds come into AV and lead us to victory 10 minutes after joining.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Malladine
I dislike WSG and AB because of preforms in megagear rolling the game. Saw an AB game the other day last a few minutes, with the alliance getting around 20 hks total and horde getting...wait for it...ZERO.
Bullsh|t.
Anyway, AV is cool cause the decked can't band up to utterly dominate the entire game and the horde can be The Horde :evil:
Uhh yes it can, my guild used to do AV runs after BWL raids and steamroll games in under 10 minutes.
Originally posted by: Tremulant
Originally posted by: TGS
Preformed groups should only fight preformed groups. On my server there are two straight pvp ally groups that regularly stomp on horde pugs, for WSG or AB. Now if you get a horde group together in tier 1+ stuff you can focus fire them down and win. Strangely enough even slightly under geared you can overpower better gear people with focused fire and better tatics. Nothing quite like out nuking tier 1& 2 mages, with my "meager" blues. :laugh:
Heh, in AB, with my blue-geared rogue, I could take out tier 2 hunters while taking additional damage from a rogue. This happened multiple times in that game, while we were taking/defending BS.
I couldn't take out both the rogue and the hunter, but I could always take out one of them before dying. I'd usually focus on the hunter first, since he's more of a threat to the rest of the flag defenders. I didn't worry about the rogue because we had locks/wars/mages at the flag.
On the topic of AV turtling... on my server, when we were stuck in our base we'd usually keep them at bay for a few hours and then win. Most of the time, there'd be a few people screaming to give up, but then people would leave, and other people would join, and we'd fight back and win. That was always fun
Originally posted by: rh71
^ it really doesn't take that much in gear... just coordination... for AV. Have a small group on vent and you're golden... take anything unless there's 25 people there.
I mean, it only takes 2 people to swipe & successfully defend a tower.
Originally posted by: BZeto
Speaking of pvp and battlegrounds.. Does anyone else have honor farmers on their servers that are being played by multiple people?
Its a pain for everyone trying to rank when you have 1 or 2 players who are being played 24/7 by different people grinding honor.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Tremulant
Originally posted by: TGS
Preformed groups should only fight preformed groups. On my server there are two straight pvp ally groups that regularly stomp on horde pugs, for WSG or AB. Now if you get a horde group together in tier 1+ stuff you can focus fire them down and win. Strangely enough even slightly under geared you can overpower better gear people with focused fire and better tatics. Nothing quite like out nuking tier 1& 2 mages, with my "meager" blues. :laugh:
Heh, in AB, with my blue-geared rogue, I could take out tier 2 hunters while taking additional damage from a rogue. This happened multiple times in that game, while we were taking/defending BS.
I couldn't take out both the rogue and the hunter, but I could always take out one of them before dying. I'd usually focus on the hunter first, since he's more of a threat to the rest of the flag defenders. I didn't worry about the rogue because we had locks/wars/mages at the flag.
On the topic of AV turtling... on my server, when we were stuck in our base we'd usually keep them at bay for a few hours and then win. Most of the time, there'd be a few people screaming to give up, but then people would leave, and other people would join, and we'd fight back and win. That was always fun
Our technique was 1 hunter (me) stayed behind to defend the farms.
4 went to mines, 4 went to mill, 6 went to blacksmith
Forces were redirected based on what the horde did (we all had epic mounts and could get around quickly).
After taking their respective flags, 1 man, usually a hunter, paladin or rogue, stayed behind to defend each flag, and the remaining 11 took the farms and then moved up to camp the spawn and let no one out until the game ended.
You can take down 1 tier 2 with focus fire if you have a few people, but an organized guild of all T2s was just impossible for PUGs and new guilds.
Originally posted by: Sid59
Originally posted by: BZeto
Speaking of pvp and battlegrounds.. Does anyone else have honor farmers on their servers that are being played by multiple people?
Its a pain for everyone trying to rank when you have 1 or 2 players who are being played 24/7 by different people grinding honor.
many Grand Marshals / High Warlords do that. it's more common to have mulitple people play that char than 1 person doing it themselves. It's a long f'n grind, this patch fixes some of that grind.
Originally posted by: Vortex22
I don't think you need 12 weeks at standing 1 to get GM if you have a working honor cap on the server. In fact I think you only need a couple weeks in a row if the caps are set up correctly and everyone follows them. There are about 8 former GMs in my guild.
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Vortex22
I don't think you need 12 weeks at standing 1 to get GM if you have a working honor cap on the server. In fact I think you only need a couple weeks in a row if the caps are set up correctly and everyone follows them. There are about 8 former GMs in my guild.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa...=wow-pvp&t=374550&p=1&tmp=1#post374550
if you take standing 1 from the start
Week 1: 13,000 Rating Rank 4
Week 2: 23,400 Rating Rank 6
Week 3: 31,720 Rating Rank 8
Week 4: 38,375 Rating Rank 9
Week 5: 43,700 Rating Rank 10
Week 6: 47,960 Rating Rank 11
Week 7: 51,368 Rating Rank 12
Week 8: 54,094 Rating Rank 12
Week 9: 56,275 Rating Rank 13
Week 10: 58,020 Rating Rank 13
Week 11: 59,416 Rating Rank 13
Week 12: 60,533 Rating Rank 14 (Grand Marshal/High Warlord Woot!)
Originally posted by: crimson117
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Vortex22
I don't think you need 12 weeks at standing 1 to get GM if you have a working honor cap on the server. In fact I think you only need a couple weeks in a row if the caps are set up correctly and everyone follows them. There are about 8 former GMs in my guild.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa...=wow-pvp&t=374550&p=1&tmp=1#post374550
if you take standing 1 from the start
Week 1: 13,000 Rating Rank 4
Week 2: 23,400 Rating Rank 6
Week 3: 31,720 Rating Rank 8
Week 4: 38,375 Rating Rank 9
Week 5: 43,700 Rating Rank 10
Week 6: 47,960 Rating Rank 11
Week 7: 51,368 Rating Rank 12
Week 8: 54,094 Rating Rank 12
Week 9: 56,275 Rating Rank 13
Week 10: 58,020 Rating Rank 13
Week 11: 59,416 Rating Rank 13
Week 12: 60,533 Rating Rank 14 (Grand Marshal/High Warlord Woot!)
Starting as a new character, yes the fastest you can reach rank 14 is by going for 12 weeks at standing 1. But getting rank 14 doesn't require 12 straight weeks at standing 1. You could rank up normally like everyone actually does, then eventually reach rank 13, and only then would you need to get standing 1, and keep it for just two weeks in a row.
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I miss this game, have any new RPPvP servers launched in the past month or so?
must resist....... if so
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Tremulant
Originally posted by: TGS
Preformed groups should only fight preformed groups. On my server there are two straight pvp ally groups that regularly stomp on horde pugs, for WSG or AB. Now if you get a horde group together in tier 1+ stuff you can focus fire them down and win. Strangely enough even slightly under geared you can overpower better gear people with focused fire and better tatics. Nothing quite like out nuking tier 1& 2 mages, with my "meager" blues. :laugh:
You can take down 1 tier 2 with focus fire if you have a few people, but an organized guild of all T2s was just impossible for PUGs and new guilds.
That precisely what I'm saying, on a skill versus skill game having one side blue/green facing up against a tier 2+ team is almost always a blowout. Rank the items, appropriately, and have matches in their respective tiers. Now like I said, it is possible to compete mixed tier 1-2 with tier 2+ as the difference isnt large enough to overcome tatics and focus fire. I went in with some mixed 1-2 geared guild runs, and all we did was have a flag runner team, and a focus fire team nuke the other flag carrier. Druid flag carriers don't work too well with 2-3 mages/hunters and a lock or two all at once.
AV is fun, as you can queue up with guildies and go roughly as a group, just not as a premade 40 man. I think that WSG and AB would be better overall if that were the case for them as well. Premade raids for pvp really destroy the easy pickup aspect of the battlegrounds. Frankly groups should be the extent of a premade.
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Sid59
Originally posted by: BZeto
Speaking of pvp and battlegrounds.. Does anyone else have honor farmers on their servers that are being played by multiple people?
Its a pain for everyone trying to rank when you have 1 or 2 players who are being played 24/7 by different people grinding honor.
many Grand Marshals / High Warlords do that. it's more common to have mulitple people play that char than 1 person doing it themselves. It's a long f'n grind, this patch fixes some of that grind.
cross realy BGs just make it easier to get honor in order to get standing 1, however it makes it easier for everyone
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I miss this game, have any new RPPvP servers launched in the past month or so?
must resist....... if so
Originally posted by: BZeto
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Sid59
Originally posted by: BZeto
Speaking of pvp and battlegrounds.. Does anyone else have honor farmers on their servers that are being played by multiple people?
Its a pain for everyone trying to rank when you have 1 or 2 players who are being played 24/7 by different people grinding honor.
many Grand Marshals / High Warlords do that. it's more common to have mulitple people play that char than 1 person doing it themselves. It's a long f'n grind, this patch fixes some of that grind.
cross realy BGs just make it easier to get honor in order to get standing 1, however it makes it easier for everyone
I dont see how faster queues are going to make it 'easier' to get standing 1. Its not like you are the only one getting these fast queues, the entire population will have the same queue times and earn basically the same honor ratio as before.
The only thing that will make it easier to make ranks is if they indeed lowered the % of decay you get on your rating each week.
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I miss this game, have any new RPPvP servers launched in the past month or so?
must resist....... if so
Dunno. Whatcha been up to lately?
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Wow that was possibly the worst patch day that I can remember.
Both continents crashing randomly, being stuck IN and instance with no mobs in it.
People being thrown out of the instance and falling through the world.
Blizz botched this one BAD.
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Wow that was possibly the worst patch day that I can remember.
Both continents crashing randomly, being stuck IN and instance with no mobs in it.
People being thrown out of the instance and falling through the world.
Blizz botched this one BAD.