wow... 1k watt Power Supply....

[fkloster]

leave it to PC Power and Cooling

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: fkloster
leave it to PC Power and Cooling

Meh. I've got 1100 watts for far cheaper.

 

[Ike0069]

August 2005:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1672384&enterthread=y&arctab=y

 

[suicidalpigeon]

repot.

 

[KoolDrew]

Repost...

 

[Tostada]

I like the guy reviewing it, trying to brag about his system that would work fine with just about any 600W PSU.

30A on the 12v1 rail, and an additional 12v3 rail. Who would ever use that? That's an ATX power supply, but there is no system that could fit in an ATX case that could make use of it. You'd need an SLI setup and about 20 hard drives.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
repot.

 

[SnoMunke]

Originally posted by: Tostada
I like the guy reviewing it, trying to brag about his system that would work fine with just about any 600W PSU.

30A on the 12v1 rail, and an additional 12v3 rail. Who would ever use that? That's an ATX power supply, but there is no system that could fit in an ATX case that could make use of it. You'd need an SLI setup and about 20 hard drives.

You really think so? Any data to back it up? (not being a jackass, just really want to see if you have some evidence to back up your statement).

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: Tostada
I like the guy reviewing it, trying to brag about his system that would work fine with just about any 600W PSU.

30A on the 12v1 rail, and an additional 12v3 rail. Who would ever use that? That's an ATX power supply, but there is no system that could fit in an ATX case that could make use of it. You'd need an SLI setup and about 20 hard drives.

Talk to Fullmetal Chocobo more... he has... well its in his sig...

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: Tostada
I like the guy reviewing it, trying to brag about his system that would work fine with just about any 600W PSU.

30A on the 12v1 rail, and an additional 12v3 rail. Who would ever use that? That's an ATX power supply, but there is no system that could fit in an ATX case that could make use of it. You'd need an SLI setup and about 20 hard drives.

That, or a flux capacitor hidden somewhere in the case.

"1.21 [kilo]watts? Great Scott!"

 

[Bozo Galora]

hey, kloster - long time no see
when did they let you out of jail - j/k

 

[0roo0roo]

rather use two s12 seasonics. probably quieter

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
rather use two s12 seasonics. probably quieter

Cheaper too!

 

[SnoMunke]

I thought is was interesting the S12s don't have the efficiency of their OEM counterparts....

 

[Art Vandaleigh]

That is one hell of a PSU...

 

[jimbob200521]

repost-a-runi

 

[n7]

ofn

 

[ShellGuy]

Nice system fullmetal.



Will G.

 

[Rubycon]

Repot?

LOL for a power supply the correct term would be HI-POT.

 

[Tostada]

Originally posted by: SnoMunke

Originally posted by: Tostada
I like the guy reviewing it, trying to brag about his system that would work fine with just about any 600W PSU.

30A on the 12v1 rail, and an additional 12v3 rail. Who would ever use that? That's an ATX power supply, but there is no system that could fit in an ATX case that could make use of it. You'd need an SLI setup and about 20 hard drives.

You really think so? Any data to back it up? (not being a jackass, just really want to see if you have some evidence to back up your statement).

It really should be common sense if you've ever seen any legitimate examples of how much power stuff uses.

A 15K RPM Cheetah uses 26W to spin up and 16W when in use. A 400G Barracuda uses 37.60W to spin up since the platters are heavier, and 12.79W in use. The 400-500GB drives use more than 15K drives because 15K SCSI drives have smaller, lighter platters.

A SLI setup with an Athlon FX-57, hard drive, and two 7800 GTXs (which use more power than any other video card) uses 188W in Windows 2D and 343W under heavy load. That's the whole system. Those video cards are really only using 85W normally and 240W under load.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/page40.html

So, let's say you build some absurd 8 or 10 terrabyte server that also serves as a gaming rig. So you've got 20 Barracudas and a two 7800 GTXs.

Startup (if you don't stagger spinup) = 188 + 20 * 37.60 = 940W
Gaming (with all 20 drives accessing) = 343 + 20 * 12.79 = 599W

So, if you staggered the drives spinning up, you could actually do that with a 600W PSU. You've also got a 21st drive in there, since Tom's setup had its own drive.

Sure, this isn't exact, but it should give you some sort of an idea how utterly retarded a 1000W PSU is. You're never going to fit enough stuff in the case. The PSU doesn't have anywhere near enough connectors to plug everything in even if you did build a system that needed 1000W. You would be using a server chassis, and don't those have their own kind of PSU? SSI redundant PSUs or something like that?

The bottom line is that even a 600W PSU is bordering on the absurd. Most overclocked dual-core systems with SLI graphics and multiple hard drives would still be OK with a 500W PSU if it's a good one.

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
I thought is was interesting the S12s don't have the efficiency of their OEM counterparts....

And where did you hear that? I doubt it's true. All the retail ones they reviews on SPCR were close to 90% efficiency.

 

[JEDIYoda]

The Funny thing is that Enermax Galaxy PSU still is not being produced....
Enermax, those crazy power supply dudes have gone power mad with their latest bit of kit, the Galaxy. Set to be available in the UK from around October, the Galaxy is the first PSU to the retail market claiming to be able to deliver 1000W? yes, you read that right, 1000W.

In final production at the time of writing, the two samples in the photos are engineering samples so we couldn?t get out hands on one for testing, but having run the figures past Rys, they add up to just a little over 1000W output, drawing 1400W from the mains? so no need for a dimmer switch in the lounge ....

Still not out on the market......wanna bet it is as much as the PC Power & Cooling PSU....
I would go with PC Power & Cooling`s 1k vs the Enermax 1k any day of the year!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

"Sure, this isn't exact, but it should give you some sort of an idea how utterly retarded a 1000W PSU is. You're never going to fit enough stuff in the case. The PSU doesn't have anywhere near enough connectors to plug everything in even if you did build a system that needed 1000W. You would be using a server chassis, and don't those have their own kind of PSU? SSI redundant PSUs or something like that? "-- Tostada

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=TC1KW&view=techspecs

AC Input
Operating Range: 90-264 VAC
.99 power factor
auto-select
Frequency: 47-63Hz
Current: 15A @ 115V
Efficiency: 85%
EMI: FCC-B, CE

DC Output
Output: +5V @ 30A
+12V1 @ 16A
+12V2 @ 16A
+12V3@ 36A
+12V1,V2,V3 = 66A (70A pk.)
-12V @ 0.8A
+3.3V @ 30A
+5VSB @ 3.5A
continuous = 1000W
peak = 1100W

Regulation: 1% (+3.3V, +5V, +12V)
5% (-12V)
Ripple: 1% (p-p)
Hold Time: 21ms
PG Delay: 300ms

Safety
OV Protection: +3.3V, +5V, +12V
OC Protection: +3.3V, +5V, ±12V
Agency Approval: UL/ULC/CE/TUV
Environmental
Temperature: 0° - 50°C
Humidity: 10% - 90% RH
Fan Type: 30 - 52 CFM ball-bearing
Noise: 32 - 40dB(A)

Miscellaneous
Compatibility: SLI, EPS12V, SSI
M/B Connectors: 24-pin, 8-pin, dual 6-pin video
See Diagram
Drive Connectors: 15 (6 SATA, 8 Molex, 1 mini)
MTBF: 100,000 hours
M/B Compatibility: See List
Dimensions/Harness: See Diagram
Warranty: 5 Years

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
The PSU doesn't have anywhere near enough connectors to plug everything in even if you did build a system that needed 1000W. You would be using a server chassis, and don't those have their own kind of PSU? SSI redundant PSUs or something like that? "

Yes, they do, but they have optional backplates for an ATX PSU. I ended up modding my PSU backplane to allow another ATX PSU. And I modded the power cables of the secondary PSU to allow connections for more devices. Such as modding the 24p and 8p connectors to power fans and cold cathodes.

 

[SnoMunke]

Originally posted by: Tostada

Originally posted by: SnoMunke

Originally posted by: Tostada
I like the guy reviewing it, trying to brag about his system that would work fine with just about any 600W PSU.

30A on the 12v1 rail, and an additional 12v3 rail. Who would ever use that? That's an ATX power supply, but there is no system that could fit in an ATX case that could make use of it. You'd need an SLI setup and about 20 hard drives.

You really think so? Any data to back it up? (not being a jackass, just really want to see if you have some evidence to back up your statement).

It really should be common sense if you've ever seen any legitimate examples of how much power stuff uses.

A 15K RPM Cheetah uses 26W to spin up and 16W when in use. A 400G Barracuda uses 37.60W to spin up since the platters are heavier, and 12.79W in use. The 400-500GB drives use more than 15K drives because 15K SCSI drives have smaller, lighter platters.

A SLI setup with an Athlon FX-57, hard drive, and two 7800 GTXs (which use more power than any other video card) uses 188W in Windows 2D and 343W under heavy load. That's the whole system. Those video cards are really only using 85W normally and 240W under load.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/page40.html

So, let's say you build some absurd 8 or 10 terrabyte server that also serves as a gaming rig. So you've got 20 Barracudas and a two 7800 GTXs.

Startup (if you don't stagger spinup) = 188 + 20 * 37.60 = 940W
Gaming (with all 20 drives accessing) = 343 + 20 * 12.79 = 599W

So, if you staggered the drives spinning up, you could actually do that with a 600W PSU. You've also got a 21st drive in there, since Tom's setup had its own drive.

Sure, this isn't exact, but it should give you some sort of an idea how utterly retarded a 1000W PSU is. You're never going to fit enough stuff in the case. The PSU doesn't have anywhere near enough connectors to plug everything in even if you did build a system that needed 1000W. You would be using a server chassis, and don't those have their own kind of PSU? SSI redundant PSUs or something like that?

The bottom line is that even a 600W PSU is bordering on the absurd. Most overclocked dual-core systems with SLI graphics and multiple hard drives would still be OK with a 500W PSU if it's a good one.

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
I thought is was interesting the S12s don't have the efficiency of their OEM counterparts....

And where did you hear that? I doubt it's true. All the retail ones they reviews on SPCR were close to 90% efficiency.

ok....motherboard? memory? fans? expansion cards? they all draw power don't they?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
The PSU doesn't have anywhere near enough connectors to plug everything in even if you did build a system that needed 1000W. You would be using a server chassis, and don't those have their own kind of PSU? SSI redundant PSUs or something like that? "

Yes, they do, but they have optional backplates for an ATX PSU. I ended up modding my PSU backplane to allow another ATX PSU. And I modded the power cables of the secondary PSU to allow connections for more devices. Such as modding the 24p and 8p connectors to power fans and cold cathodes.

that was NOT my quote...that was...Tostada`s quote---It really should be common sense if you've ever seen any legitimate examples of how much power stuff uses.

A 15K RPM Cheetah uses 26W to spin up and 16W when in use. A 400G Barracuda uses 37.60W to spin up since the platters are heavier, and 12.79W in use. The 400-500GB drives use more than 15K drives because 15K SCSI drives have smaller, lighter platters.

A SLI setup with an Athlon FX-57, hard drive, and two 7800 GTXs (which use more power than any other video card) uses 188W in Windows 2D and 343W under heavy load. That's the whole system. Those video cards are really only using 85W normally and 240W under load.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/page40.html

So, let's say you build some absurd 8 or 10 terrabyte server that also serves as a gaming rig. So you've got 20 Barracudas and a two 7800 GTXs.

Startup (if you don't stagger spinup) = 188 + 20 * 37.60 = 940W
Gaming (with all 20 drives accessing) = 343 + 20 * 12.79 = 599W

So, if you staggered the drives spinning up, you could actually do that with a 600W PSU. You've also got a 21st drive in there, since Tom's setup had its own drive.

Sure, this isn't exact, but it should give you some sort of an idea how utterly retarded a 1000W PSU is. You're never going to fit enough stuff in the case. The PSU doesn't have anywhere near enough connectors to plug everything in even if you did build a system that needed 1000W. You would be using a server chassis, and don't those have their own kind of PSU? SSI redundant PSUs or something like that?

The bottom line is that even a 600W PSU is bordering on the absurd. Most overclocked dual-core systems with SLI graphics and multiple hard drives would still be OK with a 500W PSU if it's a good one.
I posted the PC Power & Cooling website to prove Tostada`s information or assumption wrong!!