Wow. Bitcoin is almost $1,500

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fleshconsumed

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Boggles the mind people with no knowledge of a given industry, or any industry, would think to invest at All Time Highs is a good idea and expect to make a profit short term...
Well the opposite side is that you don't know what all time high is going to be. If you invested in stock market at ATH at the beginning of 2017, you would have made out very very well. Granted, crypto is not stock market, but you never know what ATH is going to be, and it is possible that in a few years bitcoin will blow through $20K.
 

Zeze

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Well the opposite side is that you don't know what all time high is going to be. If you invested in stock market at ATH at the beginning of 2017, you would have made out very very well. Granted, crypto is not stock market, but you never know what ATH is going to be, and it is possible that in a few years bitcoin will blow through $20K.
LOL to see everyone losing faith in BTC. Now it'll take few years to be back at 20K?

I'm laughing with you because I don't believe in bitcoin (and own none).
 

Yakk

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Well the opposite side is that you don't know what all time high is going to be. If you invested in stock market at ATH at the beginning of 2017, you would have made out very very well. Granted, crypto is not stock market, but you never know what ATH is going to be, and it is possible that in a few years bitcoin will blow through $20K.

Well if an asset is at it's highest price in its history at a given moment, it is at its all time high. You might not know up to where it will go, but if it is still at its highest point at that time, be it 12k or 19k, it is at ATH. This usually triggers FOMO (fear of missing out) which seasoned inverters use to finance their selling.
 

fleshconsumed

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LOL to see everyone losing faith in BTC. Now it'll take few years to be back at 20K?

I'm laughing with you because I don't believe in bitcoin (and own none).
To be honest, I don't think Bitcoin is where the future will be either. I've said it somewhere on this forum before, but in my opinion the likeliest scenario is that bitcoin will end up the AOL or MySpace of dot-com era. Bitcoin has paved the way, it has shown us that blockchain technology is real, valuable, and that it works, but ultimately I think Bitcoin will be replaced by something better. If it's lucky it'll end up like Yahoo, it's still going to be around, but it'll be just a shadow of its former self. Now, I'm no Nostradamus, I have no idea when (or if?) it's going to happen, but I do think this is what's going to happen. To that end I've traded all the BTC/BCH/BTG that I had for alt-coins, and it sucks that in the current crypto downturn BTC is dragging entire market down and the alt coins are crashing even harder than BTC, but in the end, I do believe I've made the correct decision, even if my timing was off.

Well if an asset is at it's highest price in its history at a given moment, it is at its all time high. You might not know up to where it will go, but if it is still at its highest point at that time, be it 12k or 19k, it is at ATH. This usually triggers FOMO (fear of missing out) which seasoned inverters use to finance their selling.
It is a very peculiar coincidence how this crash came right after Bitcoin finally went mainstream with wall-street financed bitcoin ETFs. So many ironies. It would be "funny" if Winklevoss brothers used the wall street fueled FOMO to liquidate their BTC holdings, or if they pushed behind the scenes for wall street to create BTC etfs to fuel the rally so they could cash out. Conspiracies are always fun.
 
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Yakk

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With Samsung making Asic miners, it'll be interesting to see if/when they integrate Lightening Wallets into Samsung Pay.

It would actually be in their own corporate best interest to do so.
 

Yakk

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It is a very peculiar coincidence how this crash came right after Bitcoin finally went mainstream with wall-street financed bitcoin ETFs. So many ironies. It would be "funny" if Winklevoss brothers used the wall street fueled FOMO to liquidate their BTC holdings, or if they pushed behind the scenes for wall street to create BTC etfs to fuel the rally so they could cash out. Conspiracies are always fun.

IMHO not a coincidence at all. With Futures comes the possibility of hedging your position much, MUCH more easily. Ever wonder *WHY* CBOE & CME we're such in a big hurry to get futures approved? Average traders didn't really want or care about them, but institutions with very deep pockets sure did! They were raising the Bitcoin price for themselves just bulk buying last fall. Shorting using futures allows them to buy without raising price even on a limited resource until such a time as is deemed appropriate. Same kind of trick as is used in gold & silver to keep it down. It's a professional level manipulation pump & dump.

I'm sure many whales took big profits while dumping. BTC could easily hit $7,500 before even thinking of bouncing again, just my evaluation for whatever that's worth. BTC needs to be able to take these, and many, many more beatings all the while draining fiat if it is going to survive.

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DrMrLordX

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How is it 22 billion? 2.2b USDT have been created, how is possible that USDT is responsible for 22b in liquidity with only 2.2b?

Total market liquidity for the cryptoverse is estimated to be $22 billion - USDT represents ~$2.3 billion of that liquidity. Any or all of that liquidity can be in play in crypto-to-crypto trades, which in turn makes up some non-trivial amount of daily volume in crypto markets.

I would also like to remind you that it is Tether Ltd.'s responsibility to prove they have backing for their USDT, not the other way around. When you axe your auditor, you lose all credibility. The so-called promulgators of FUD are well within their rights to be critical of Tether Ltd. and Bitfinex.
 
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Zeze

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I'm just mad that I made my final investment two weeks earlier.

Ugh. I could've gotten 1000 more VET for free.

But then I had no way of knowing that then.
 

Zeze

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Bitcoin.. thank the fack i got in at 17.7k then quickly left entirely to altcoins upon learning of their existence.

I got into crypto just 7 weeks ago. Bitcoin did nothing but going down since. Miserable bitcoin holders.
 

Ns1

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I got into crypto just 7 weeks ago. Bitcoin did nothing but going down since. Miserable bitcoin holders.

seriously, people who bought in at 18k must be eating their shit right now. How's SK doing out of all this? Weren't they the biggest buyers of that timeframe?
 

AznAnarchy99

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Bitcoin.. thank the fack i got in at 17.7k then quickly left entirely to altcoins upon learning of their existence.

I got into crypto just 7 weeks ago. Bitcoin did nothing but going down since. Miserable bitcoin holders.

You're the curse!
 

ultimatebob

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I blame NS1 and myself. Once skeptics like ourselves get into the action, Bitcoin was doomed to drop
 

FelixDeCat

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ruh roh...
Bitcoin USD 8,701.64 -413.64 -4.54%


Sell. Then diversify into something tangible.....like Beanie Babies.
 
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SKORPI0

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Over $100 billion wiped off global cryptocurrency market in 24 hours

Over $100 billion was wiped off the global cryptocurrency market in 24 hours on Friday amid concerns over tighter regulation and worries that the bitcoin price was manipulated on a major exchange.

The total market capitalization or value of all cryptocurrencies in circulation stood at $405,241,490,138 at 6:30 a.m. London time (1:30 a.m. ET), according to data from Coinmarketcap.com, which takes into account the prices of digital coins across a number of key exchanges. This was a fall of $112.6 billion of value from a day before.

Bitcoin (USD) Price

https://www.coindesk.com/price/
 
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Zeze

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It's been an honor playing with you.

(Bugle playing that casket lowering song)
 
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