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Zeze

Lifer
Mar 4, 2011
11,210
1,080
126
I have a question for you guys.

So the recent mainstream media coverage of bitcoin caused every aunt and their dog to invest, skyrocketing to Its ATH of $19.5k.

So they're all leaving today causing this dip.

Today and forward how can BTC mechanically rise above 20k again? Where's the money coming from now?
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
28,799
359
126
I have a question for you guys.

So the recent mainstream media coverage of bitcoin caused every aunt and their dog to invest, skyrocketing to Its ATH of $19.5k.

So they're all leaving today causing this dip.

Today and forward how can BTC mechanically rise above 20k again? Where's the money coming from now?

The key is price rise over time. The massive infusions of value into the market created a feedback loop, now that the markets are -- hopefully -- wrapping up the correction, the original continued buying pressure can resume. There was a market before everyone tried to ride the major wave, and that'll continue.
 

DaveSimmons

Elite Member
Aug 12, 2001
40,730
670
126
I have a question for you guys.

So the recent mainstream media coverage of bitcoin caused every aunt and their dog to invest, skyrocketing to Its ATH of $19.5k.

So they're all leaving today causing this dip.

Today and forward how can BTC mechanically rise above 20k again? Where's the money coming from now?

Blockchain mania is still in full force and luring in naive new speculators who have no idea what they're buying other than "the next Microsoft or Google!"

One sign that that phase is over will be when all the clickbait scam sites switch back to pushing other get rich quick scams like bad penny stocks.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,307
2,099
126
forget friday, it was more like "6 hours from now"

...that was quick!

I read a story this morning that one by one banks are prohibiting users from using available credit to purchase crypto-currency. They cite potential for loss for the customer and the bank.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/02/jpm...rica-bar-bitcoin-buys-with-a-credit-card.html

J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup said Friday they are no longer allowing customers to buy cryptocurrencies using credit cards.

"At this time, we are not processing cryptocurrency purchases using credit cards, due to the volatility and risk involved," a J.P. Morgan Chase spokesperson said in a statement to CNBC. "We will review the issue as the market evolves."

The news came as bitcoin has more than halved in value from an all-time high above $19,000 hit in mid-December. The high-flying digital currency had rallied 2,000 percent in just 12 months to reach that record. But bitcoin has tumbled in the last few weeks, briefly falling below $8,000 Friday for the first time since late November.

Other cryptocurrencies have also fallen in the last few weeks after soaring, sometimes even far more than bitcoin, last year.

A Bank of America spokesperson also said in an email that the bank has decided to decline credit card purchases of cryptocurrencies.

Citigroup said in a statement that it has "made the decision to no longer permit credit card purchases of cryptocurrency. We will continue to review our policy as this market evolves."

Just last week, Chase said it was allowing customers to buy cryptocurrencies with its credit cards, while Bank of America and Citigroup said they were reviewing policies that allow customers to buy bitcoin with credit cards.

Earlier in January, Capital One Financial said it has decided to ban cryptocurrency purchases with its cards. Discover Financial Services has effectively prohibited cryptocurrency purchases with its credit cards since 2015.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
People reverse mortgaging their homes to buy bitcoin was the top. What else could people have possibly thrown at bitcoin other than their home equity?

If you cashed out at the top you were getting other people's homes and shit for your digital coins.

Look at the human behavior aspect above all else.

Damn, now that's a sobering thought. I can't help but be depressed at how true this likely is. D:

But I bet we are about to see a dead cat do it's thing within the next week or two, and then we see a larger swath of people in different sectors amplifying this behavior. Hoooo boy.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
https://www.coindesk.com/report-bank-america-jp-morgan-ban-credit-crypto-purchases/

If true, one less reason for people to extoll the virtues of credit, though to be fair it's not really your money so they have the right to dictate terms like that.

Damn, if only I thought about putting down $5k in ehtereum purchases at exactly this time last year, when I had just gotten my sapphire rewards card: get my instant 100k points, $5000 worth of ETH at 2017 Q1 price, pay off those 3 months as I had done, normally.....what cc bill, again?

Oh, the funny little schemes that suddenly become frustratingly obvious and brilliant with the value of hindsight.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
I have a question for you guys.

So the recent mainstream media coverage of bitcoin caused every aunt and their dog to invest, skyrocketing to Its ATH of $19.5k.

So they're all leaving today causing this dip.

Today and forward how can BTC mechanically rise above 20k again? Where's the money coming from now?

doesn't matter. Those initial investors dumped a metric boatload of valueless "coin" on those retired people, recent college grads/married/yuppies, et al that bought in at $15-19k.

A staggering amount of wealth has been successfully transferred to a new ruling class. A few more P&Ds will happen like this over the coming weeks, and you're going to start seeing a strange shift in economic trends in coming years, as a response to how such colossal amounts of capital have just fallen into the hands of a newly-minted class of would-be oligarchs.

Thanks for playing, bro. Welcome to the un-publicized birth of the upcoming Age of Crypto-empires (well, not sure what things will look like, but these newly-monied blokes are going to have a particular sort of vision, to say the least)
 

Zeze

Lifer
Mar 4, 2011
11,210
1,080
126
doesn't matter. Those initial investors dumped a metric boatload of valueless "coin" on those retired people, recent college grads/married/yuppies, et al that bought in at $15-19k.

A staggering amount of wealth has been successfully transferred to a new ruling class. A few more P&Ds will happen like this over the coming weeks, and you're going to start seeing a strange shift in economic trends in coming years, as a response to how such colossal amounts of capital have just fallen into the hands of a newly-minted class of would-be oligarchs.

Thanks for playing, bro. Welcome to the un-publicized birth of the upcoming Age of Crypto-empires (well, not sure what things will look like, but these newly-monied blokes are going to have a particular sort of vision, to say the least)

I'm still up. I was barely down to -20% at the hardest dip (btc $7600, ven $3.98) and I was up 320% before that (that's 4.2 times).

I say it again and again, I've only invested what I can afford to lose. I'll never sell at dips. This is already a sunk cost to me. I already spent that money in my head, therefore it doesn't matter if BTC goes down to $2.

This is an expensive lottery ticket with the highest odds I've ever played.

To the fools who took out loans, 401k, credit card, and mortgage to enter crypto are idiots to begin with. They would've lost their money one way or the other regardless of crypto.

"A fool and his money..."
 
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DrMrLordX

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
21,808
11,164
136
The sad thing is, I was able to mine that in like . . . a day with my A10-7700k back in 2016. My and me 2.5 MH/s were totally rocking out back then.
 

Hugo Drax

Diamond Member
Nov 20, 2011
5,647
47
91
I find it interesting that anytime BTC takes a big hit its during heavy volumes and rallys are very light volume events. The markets are lopsided, There is no way that the market can support a large number of users trying to sell bitcoin the floor would just fall right from under this market.
 

Hugo Drax

Diamond Member
Nov 20, 2011
5,647
47
91
I'm still up. I was barely down to -20% at the hardest dip (btc $7600, ven $3.98) and I was up 320% before that (that's 4.2 times).

I say it again and again, I've only invested what I can afford to lose. I'll never sell at dips. This is already a sunk cost to me. I already spent that money in my head, therefore it doesn't matter if BTC goes down to $2.

This is an expensive lottery ticket with the highest odds I've ever played.

To the fools who took out loans, 401k, credit card, and mortgage to enter crypto are idiots to begin with. They would've lost their money one way or the other regardless of crypto.

"A fool and his money..."

I dont get it why would you not cash in a 320% return. That runup to 20K and the loads of people from the shoe shine boy to grandma asking about it should have screamed sell your position and lock in that 320% What were you waiting for? a 600% return? 10,000% return. What was the return you were waiting for that would induce you to close out your position.

You had a lotto ticket and you won the prize but it looks like you chose not to redeem your winning ticket. BTC will never go back to 20K with more restrictions on purchasing it will become much more difficult to find new greater fools willing to pay more than the next person.
 

Hugo Drax

Diamond Member
Nov 20, 2011
5,647
47
91
doesn't matter. Those initial investors dumped a metric boatload of valueless "coin" on those retired people, recent college grads/married/yuppies, et al that bought in at $15-19k.

A staggering amount of wealth has been successfully transferred to a new ruling class. A few more P&Ds will happen like this over the coming weeks, and you're going to start seeing a strange shift in economic trends in coming years, as a response to how such colossal amounts of capital have just fallen into the hands of a newly-minted class of would-be oligarchs.

Thanks for playing, bro. Welcome to the un-publicized birth of the upcoming Age of Crypto-empires (well, not sure what things will look like, but these newly-monied blokes are going to have a particular sort of vision, to say the least)

Yes the initial holders are liquidating en masse. having something worth pennies that was created out of thin air and being able to sell it to the fools for 15-20K a pop is like winning a lotto ticket. I suspect a good chunk of it are groups of Russians and Chinese who own a big chunk of these tokens and kicked off the sales, they artificially propped up the prices using Tether to make it look like there was hard demand for bitcoin and it was going to go to the moon you can also thank the media helping out the Russians/Chinese by whipping up the masses into FOMO mode and spending/borrowing thier hard earned money to enrich the few. From what I hear the majority of Bitcoins are concentrated positions held by a small group.

I suspect the bid side will get thinner and thinner and prices will continue to drop as supply all of the sudden starts to appear. I saw some big dumps of bitcoin on the market, one guy dumped close to 200 bitcoin in one order causing the price to crash past 8000 today. Its interesting to see this market in action.
 

Hugo Drax

Diamond Member
Nov 20, 2011
5,647
47
91
how fast can Dogecoins be mined? I figure I jump in this cryptocurrency thing and mine some Dogecoins I have 0 coins.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
56,450
10,119
126
I'M RICH BITCHES

Balance
0.00000292 ETH
LOLNICEDUDE! Buy me a coffee with that, you newly-minting crypto-millionare.

That's it so far? My GeForce 1060 has been mining 0.01 ETH every four days.

Hmm. Maybe his "Gaming / Mining rig", was a refurbished Dell, with a GT1030 card?

For the record, my triple GT730 1GB GDDR5 machines, mines $0.42 worth of BTC (using NiceHash) a day. Don't currently have it running.

Edit: Whole post should be taken with a heaping helping of /s. Seriously, though, good job getting in on mining, you'll hopefully make more in the future.
 
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