WoW gone too far (W/POLL!!)

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Twink?

I thought the word was tweak? :laugh:

It always got me how these kids would use the word Twink in D2. You don't Twink a charactor, you tweak it!!! Make it better.

Twink :roll:

That's a really old term. I first saw it back during EQ, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was older.

Also, this is kinda noobish and off topic, but does WoW have a crowd control class? I never played WoW extensively, but I don't remember one.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Drift3r
ZOMFG !! I can't believe this kid actually has the intelligence and initiative to plan out his goals and schedule his free time. SHOCKING! This kid needs serious counseling.

"wensday"

 

[skace]

Wow gone too far was the week my friend beat a kid out of the leveling competition in stress test to get a spot in the closed beta. Apparently the kid he beat had gotten sick from lack of sleep from playing wow and that was why he fell behind. Up until that point, neither had gone to sleep for several days.

 

[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: pontifex
so this was you right? the whole "my friend" thing is always about the OP. isn't that some kind of law? it should be.

No. My friend, Zach Blosser (Verbrennenkinder on this forum; third post in this thread) found it in his first block Physics class.
Also, I think it's hilarious that you guys think it's normal to plan your life around WoW, and to write down in a notebook what you are going to do in WoW. Life isn't about video games.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: 40sTheme

Originally posted by: pontifex
so this was you right? the whole "my friend" thing is always about the OP. isn't that some kind of law? it should be.

No. My friend, Zach Blosser (Verbrennenkinder on this forum; third post in this thread) found it in his first block Physics class.
Also, I think it's hilarious that you guys think it's normal to plan your life around WoW, and to write down in a notebook what you are going to do in WoW. Life isn't about video games.

without committing my own opinion here...what is life about?

 

[Anubis]

someone rehost the pics on bbzzdd or imageshack because PB is blocked at work

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Twink?

I thought the word was tweak? :laugh:

It always got me how these kids would use the word Twink in D2. You don't Twink a charactor, you tweak it!!! Make it better.

Twink :roll:

That's a really old term. I first saw it back during EQ, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was older.

Also, this is kinda noobish and off topic, but does WoW have a crowd control class? I never played WoW extensively, but I don't remember one.

Several classes have CC spells or abilities, mage (sheep and frost), rogue (sap), druid (hibernate for animals and cyclone), priest has undead shackle, hunter has a trap, warlock has fear. Even the warrior has an AoE taunt and fear, though that's not technically controlling the crowd, heh.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Also, this is kinda noobish and off topic, but does WoW have a crowd control class? I never played WoW extensively, but I don't remember one.

WoW has several CC classes- or none depending on how you look at it. Mages are the best at CC overall, this is mainly due to the fact that most mobs that get CCd are humanoid or beast and mages can polymorph them, other classes can CC them- but their CC breaks earlier. Priests are the CCers of choice for undead for shackle, Druids are the only class that can CC dragonkin with hibernate, locks can CC demons and elementals with banish(they also can seduce humanoids, but they need their Succubus out to do it which most locks hate doing not to mention it is going to break early most of the time, the Succy will then get quickly killed and the mob will be lose) and locks can enslave some demons and off tank another mob with them sometimes(when this is possible it is incredibly useful, just not that common). Hunters can lay an ice block trap and rogues can sap(keeps a target stunned for a bit). Druids can also cyclone, but that only lasts a few seconds. I guess the only classes without real CC are Shammans, Palladins and Warriors- the classes that can wear shields. That said, mages are almost always the main CC in WoW.

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Drift3r
ZOMFG !! I can't believe this kid actually has the intelligence and initiative to plan out his goals and schedule his free time. SHOCKING! This kid needs serious counseling.

"wensday"

I had the hardest time spelling that word when I was younger too. It's the bastard child of weekdays.

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: 40sTheme

Originally posted by: pontifex
so this was you right? the whole "my friend" thing is always about the OP. isn't that some kind of law? it should be.

No. My friend, Zach Blosser (Verbrennenkinder on this forum; third post in this thread) found it in his first block Physics class.
Also, I think it's hilarious that you guys think it's normal to plan your life around WoW, and to write down in a notebook what you are going to do in WoW. Life isn't about video games.

without committing my own opinion here...what is life about?

Haha...exactly what I was going to ask! I enjoy it when people tell me what my life should consist of. Do tell!

 

[NikolaeVarius]

This is nothing compared to my obsession with Eve online.

I read all the Dev blogs, Read all the Economy Reports, Chart out Hauling Routes to get the best bang for the buck hauling mods, spend hours on EFT( Eve Fitting Tool) to equip my ships to get the most performance possible, attempt to get the most efficent and useful skill training path, and practice PVP on the test server with Corp mates.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: 40sTheme

Originally posted by: pontifex
so this was you right? the whole "my friend" thing is always about the OP. isn't that some kind of law? it should be.

No. My friend, Zach Blosser (Verbrennenkinder on this forum; third post in this thread) found it in his first block Physics class.
Also, I think it's hilarious that you guys think it's normal to plan your life around WoW, and to write down in a notebook what you are going to do in WoW. Life isn't about video games.

without committing my own opinion here...what is life about?

Seriously. That's like said it's stupid to plan your life around your kids soccer games, or their drama club practice. Maybe your own golf tournaments. Or weekend movies. Maybe summer weekend barbecues with your family. Or maybe planning your week around work? Doctor's appointments maybe?

Should I go on? Seriously...

Honestly, if this kid has enough brain to plan out a week's schedule for playing WoW as a pre-teen or teenager, I'd say that once he graduates from college, he'd potentially be excellent management material.

Remember, what's stupid to YOU doesn't make it stupid to the world.

 

[Xavier434]

*shrug*

I write notes and bookmark internet pages that I research for gaming all of the time with various games including WoW. There is nothing wrong with that. It's a sign of good organization with a goal in mind. Would people be making fun of this sort of behavior if the notes were about a future business plan instead of a video game? I think not. Life is about whatever you want to do that makes you happy without harming anyone else.

For the record, I have a full time job, wife, a kid, friends, and the usual array of responsibilities as an adult. The gaming stuff is just my hobby. I balance my time properly. There is nothing wrong with how I or anyone else chooses to spend their time when it comes to their hobbies.

 

[lurk3r]

Make fun of him while you can, you'll eventually calling kids like this your boss. The ability to define goals and work towards them >> sports or smokin pot

 

[Mr Pickles]

This is a fine example of everything that's wrong with kids in our society. He shouldn't be working on every level like this. He should be concentrating on one class and grinding it all the way to 70 before he begins another character. Then he needs to find a clan that raids on a nightly basis and only roll another character or play on a twink when he's not farming for mats that help with the raids or gaining honor in arena with his main. Its the disorganized, low level focus in our kids today that lead to poor end game playing, which should be the ultimate goal in WoW.

 

[TestedAcorn]

So being so obsessed with a game that you have to work your life around it is totally normal?.... and how is he ever going to be my boss one day while he sits around writing his WoW schedule while he should be doing his school assignments? When I think of a boss, I certainly don't see this kid. Whenever I play video games, it's whenever i have time to play them, not saying "alright on Monday I'll level my character", "on Tuesday I farm some with some buddies".....

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: TestedAcorn
So being so obsessed with a game that you have to work your life around it is totally normal?.... and how is he ever going to be my boss one day while he sits around writing his WoW schedule while he should be doing his school assignments? When I think of a boss, I certainly don't see this kid. Whenever I play video games, it's whenever i have time to play them, not saying "alright on Monday I'll level my character", "on Tuesday I farm some with some buddies".....

What's the difference between scheduling some time to practice soccer with your team of players which includes a plan for that practice in order to beat the opposing team during the match you have the following week and planning out some video game time and the goals associated with it? It's the same thing except the choice in hobbies is different. It's no different than comparing a soccer team with a team of business partners either.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: TestedAcorn
So being so obsessed with a game that you have to work your life around it is totally normal?.... and how is he ever going to be my boss one day while he sits around writing his WoW schedule while he should be doing his school assignments? When I think of a boss, I certainly don't see this kid. Whenever I play video games, it's whenever i have time to play them, not saying "alright on Monday I'll level my character", "on Tuesday I farm some with some buddies".....

What's the difference between scheduling some time to practice soccer with your team of players which includes a plan for that practice in order to beat the opposing team during the match you have the following week and planning out some video game time and the goals associated with it? It's the same thing except the choice in hobbies is different. It's no different than comparing a soccer team with a team of business partners either.

You don't understand. Video games are not sports. Video games should not be categorized as a team sport no matter how involved it is, no matter how much you rely on other players to get a job done. Video games are not soccer, they are not baseball, they are not football, they are not games that can take the place of a true competetive sport. No matter how interactive they are, video games are not teaching people how to interact with other people in a way that will benefit them in real life scenarios. The fact that you would defend video games based on these excuses for sufficiency is pathetic.

That being said. Writing down how you are going to spend your week playing video games is equally as pathetic.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: TestedAcorn
So being so obsessed with a game that you have to work your life around it is totally normal?.... and how is he ever going to be my boss one day while he sits around writing his WoW schedule while he should be doing his school assignments? When I think of a boss, I certainly don't see this kid. Whenever I play video games, it's whenever i have time to play them, not saying "alright on Monday I'll level my character", "on Tuesday I farm some with some buddies".....

What's the difference between scheduling some time to practice soccer with your team of players which includes a plan for that practice in order to beat the opposing team during the match you have the following week and planning out some video game time and the goals associated with it? It's the same thing except the choice in hobbies is different. It's no different than comparing a soccer team with a team of business partners either.

You don't understand. Video games are not sports. Video games should not be categorized as a team sport no matter how involved it is, no matter how much you rely on other players to get a job done. Video games are not soccer, they are not baseball, they are not football, they are not games that can take the place of a true competetive sport. No matter how interactive they are, video games are not teaching people how to interact with other people in a way that will benefit them in real life scenarios. The fact that you would defend video games based on these excuses for sufficiency is pathetic.

Prove it. There are living examples everywhere which suggest otherwise. While video games are not sports, sports are also not video games. Both have their benefits in real life. However, both of them are mostly for fun. There is nothing wrong with having hobbies that are just for fun because fun is a real life benefit. Why people don't understand that concept, I have no idea.

 

[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: 40sTheme

Originally posted by: pontifex
so this was you right? the whole "my friend" thing is always about the OP. isn't that some kind of law? it should be.

No. My friend, Zach Blosser (Verbrennenkinder on this forum; third post in this thread) found it in his first block Physics class.
Also, I think it's hilarious that you guys think it's normal to plan your life around WoW, and to write down in a notebook what you are going to do in WoW. Life isn't about video games.

without committing my own opinion here...what is life about?

Seriously. That's like said it's stupid to plan your life around your kids soccer games, or their drama club practice. Maybe your own golf tournaments. Or weekend movies. Maybe summer weekend barbecues with your family. Or maybe planning your week around work? Doctor's appointments maybe?

Should I go on? Seriously...

Honestly, if this kid has enough brain to plan out a week's schedule for playing WoW as a pre-teen or teenager, I'd say that once he graduates from college, he'd potentially be excellent management material.

Remember, what's stupid to YOU doesn't make it stupid to the world.

Should I explain that video games are nowhere near as important as any of those things listed? Seriously...

It's my opinion that this is just a bit weird. I'm not one of the people who would vote Insane in my poll, I would simply say that it's not exactly normal to write out what you're going to do in a video game in your SCHOOL notebook (when you should be paying attention; I.E. learning, something that is important).

Remember, what's normal to YOU doesn't make it normal to the world.

Edit: Also; as far as planning when to play soccer goes, do you write out everything that you're going to do when you play?

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: TestedAcorn
So being so obsessed with a game that you have to work your life around it is totally normal?.... and how is he ever going to be my boss one day while he sits around writing his WoW schedule while he should be doing his school assignments? When I think of a boss, I certainly don't see this kid. Whenever I play video games, it's whenever i have time to play them, not saying "alright on Monday I'll level my character", "on Tuesday I farm some with some buddies".....

What's the difference between scheduling some time to practice soccer with your team of players which includes a plan for that practice in order to beat the opposing team during the match you have the following week and planning out some video game time and the goals associated with it? It's the same thing except the choice in hobbies is different. It's no different than comparing a soccer team with a team of business partners either.

You don't understand. Video games are not sports. Video games should not be categorized as a team sport no matter how involved it is, no matter how much you rely on other players to get a job done. Video games are not soccer, they are not baseball, they are not football, they are not games that can take the place of a true competetive sport. No matter how interactive they are, video games are not teaching people how to interact with other people in a way that will benefit them in real life scenarios. The fact that you would defend video games based on these excuses for sufficiency is pathetic.

Prove it. There are living examples everywhere which suggest otherwise. While video games are not sports, sports are also not video games. Both have their benefits in real life. However, both of them are mostly for fun. There is nothing wrong with having hobbies that are just for fun because fun is a real life benefit. Why people don't understand that concept, I have no idea.

It teaches them to enjoy themselves? Give me a break. That's weak. Simply put, the real world is too complex of a place, with experience to be gained that cannot be conveyed through video games. Working as a team in a video game may seem like it can emulate work as a team in real life, but taking the things you learn in a video game and applying them to real life teamwork will not work. It takes real life experience to excel in real life.

 

[BenSkywalker]

No matter how interactive they are, video games are not teaching people how to interact with other people in a way that will benefit them in real life scenarios.

Heh, I would love to see you find me a person that ran a Naxx raiding guild pre TBC that didn't have EXTENSIVE skills that translated extremely easily to real life. Time management, resource management, labor management, basic managerial style psychology- all on a much larger scale then what any team sport in the US requires. Gee whiz, I can get four-ten other people to work together. That is a world different then getting 40 people disciplined enough to execute things within seconds- particularly when you aren't paying them. Keeping morale high enough to keep them trying over an over, getting them devoted enough to go spend hours on end doing extremely boring tasks so they have what it will take to go bang their head into a wall over and over again.

Anyway- you find me a person that ran a Naxx raiding guild pre TBC and you will find yourself an excellent person to put in charge of other people out in the real world. It is a FAR better example then any comparable jock you can offer. For the record, yes, I played sports too- it isn't remotely close to the same level of complexity nor is it being close to comparable to teaching you real world skills. Perhaps you could argue that a football coach is comparable, but even then you are only dealing with a 11 people needing to do their job at once. If you DE has a sneezing bout while the Offense is on the field it isn't going to cost you the game.

 

[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

No matter how interactive they are, video games are not teaching people how to interact with other people in a way that will benefit them in real life scenarios.

Heh, I would love to see you find me a person that ran a Naxx raiding guild pre TBC that didn't have EXTENSIVE skills that translated extremely easily to real life. Time management, resource management, labor management, basic managerial style psychology- all on a much larger scale then what any team sport in the US requires. Gee whiz, I can get four-ten other people to work together. That is a world different then getting 40 people disciplined enough to execute things within seconds- particularly when you aren't paying them. Keeping morale high enough to keep them trying over an over, getting them devoted enough to go spend hours on end doing extremely boring tasks so they have what it will take to go bang their head into a wall over and over again.

Anyway- you find me a person that ran a Naxx raiding guild pre TBC and you will find yourself an excellent person to put in charge of other people out in the real world. It is a FAR better example then any comparable jock you can offer. For the record, yes, I played sports too- it isn't remotely close to the same level of complexity nor is it being close to comparable to teaching you real world skills. Perhaps you could argue that a football coach is comparable, but even then you are only dealing with a 11 people needing to do their job at once. If you DE has a sneezing bout while the Offense is on the field it isn't going to cost you the game.

Good point, but would you agree that he probably already had these skills beforehand? If he just ran a guild and he worked like that, he most likely was a leader before WoW.

 

[zagood]

Hell, I plot out my CS:S strats. Here's an example.

Fri: Rush back stairs. Flashbang corner. p90. Get beer and wait for next round.
Sat: Same as Fri.
Sun: Same as Sat.

-z

 

[TestedAcorn]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: TestedAcorn
So being so obsessed with a game that you have to work your life around it is totally normal?.... and how is he ever going to be my boss one day while he sits around writing his WoW schedule while he should be doing his school assignments? When I think of a boss, I certainly don't see this kid. Whenever I play video games, it's whenever i have time to play them, not saying "alright on Monday I'll level my character", "on Tuesday I farm some with some buddies".....

What's the difference between scheduling some time to practice soccer with your team of players which includes a plan for that practice in order to beat the opposing team during the match you have the following week and planning out some video game time and the goals associated with it? It's the same thing except the choice in hobbies is different. It's no different than comparing a soccer team with a team of business partners either.

You don't understand. Video games are not sports. Video games should not be categorized as a team sport no matter how involved it is, no matter how much you rely on other players to get a job done. Video games are not soccer, they are not baseball, they are not football, they are not games that can take the place of a true competetive sport. No matter how interactive they are, video games are not teaching people how to interact with other people in a way that will benefit them in real life scenarios. The fact that you would defend video games based on these excuses for sufficiency is pathetic.

That being said. Writing down how you are going to spend your week playing video games is equally as pathetic.

Mr Pickles you are my favorite person in this thread.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: skace
Wow gone too far was the week my friend beat a kid out of the leveling competition in stress test to get a spot in the closed beta. Apparently the kid he beat had gotten sick from lack of sleep from playing wow and that was why he fell behind. Up until that point, neither had gone to sleep for several days.

Ridiculous