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waggy

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Originally posted by: chambersc
absolutely unexcusable. stepping on the head of your opponent..... uncool.

not only stepping on the head. he took off the guys helmet then did it. he should be out ofr the year.
 

rise

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i was watching the game with my son and when i first saw the flag i said "wtf".

then when i saw the replay i was pissed.
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: chambersc
absolutely unexcusable. stepping on the head of your opponent..... uncool.

not only stepping on the head. he took off the guys helmet then did it. he should be out ofr the year.

honestly?! that adds a whole other element to the equation...I agree with you. At bare minimum it should be the rest of the season and a $10,000 per game fine.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: chambersc
absolutely unexcusable. stepping on the head of your opponent..... uncool.

"me fail english? unpossible!"
 

Kadarin

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Nov 23, 2001
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Based on the descriptions here, I'd say banned for life from the NFL, fines, and prison time for assault.
 

JujuFish

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Originally posted by: Queasy
What was the penalty for that hockey player that maliciously whacked another hockey player in the head with his hockey stick and drove him into the ice? Wasn't it a one or two year suspension? This sounds just as bad if not worse.

It was Todd Bertuzzi who nailed Steve Moore, breaking his neck back in March of 2004. He was suspended indefinitely. Of course, the next season was lost due to lockout. Unfortunately, the NHL went retarded and allowed him to play the 2005-06 season. Bertuzzi ended up missing only 13 regular season games. THIRTEEN.
 

Balt

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Players are out of control this season. I haven't even watched much football so far this year but I've seen more spearing, trash talking, cheap shots, and unsportmanslike conduct than I ever have. The penalty? Usually 15 yards and that is it.

NFL needs to get off its ass and start actually using their ability to hand out suspensions and hefty fines, and the refs need to start throwing out some ejections.
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: Balt
Players are out of control this season. I haven't even watched much football so far this year but I've seen more spearing, trash talking, cheap shots, and unsportmanslike conduct than I ever have. The penalty? Usually 15 yards and that is it.

NFL needs to get off its ass and start actually using their ability to hand out suspensions and hefty fines, and the refs need to start throwing out some ejections.

It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Ejections are used for the most severe unsportsmanship conduct -- like what was done today. The punishments and fines are apt and NFL looks at the plays and will judge adequately if fines/suspensions are warranted.

Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: chambersc
absolutely unexcusable. stepping on the head of your opponent..... uncool.

"me fail english? unpossible!"
Huh? By the way, that's not even the quote, smart guy.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Deeko
Dude, that Titans player is 6'6" 320 pounds. That Lomu guy you posted is 6'5" 266. That's a HUGE difference in size, and Haynesworth is not exactly the biggest player in the NFL either.

Well he is bigger than Lomu then, fair enough, but I could go get you an even heavier guy and we could do this all day. I guess NFL players do carry more weight - but does that really make them stronger or tougher? I'd take muscle mass and fitness over pure weight any day.

Actually I'd love to see a grudge match between Rugby union, Rugby league, Aussie rules, and NFL at some compromise between the 3 games. Maybe a form of rugby but without the forward-pass rule. No wussy armour of course
Go find me a Rugby player this strong.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Balt
Players are out of control this season. I haven't even watched much football so far this year but I've seen more spearing, trash talking, cheap shots, and unsportmanslike conduct than I ever have. The penalty? Usually 15 yards and that is it.

NFL needs to get off its ass and start actually using their ability to hand out suspensions and hefty fines, and the refs need to start throwing out some ejections.

to a point it is part of the game. but what this guy did was so far above that. to rip a helmet off a player and stomp on his head while he is down is unescusable.

this guy should be home for the rest of the season (without pay and possibley fines per game)

 

yosuke188

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Ok I think some of you guys are overreacting. Banned? I mean, it was a malicious thing to do, but haven't we seen those before?

Besides, we don't even know why he did it. He was probably mad at something, but we don't know what. Has he been in trouble before? I've never heard of this guy until today. You have to think about the circumstances surrounding the event.

He will no doubt be suspended for at least a few games if not the remainder of the season, and be fined heavily, but a lifetime ban just sounds outrageous.
 

JujuFish

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Originally posted by: yosuke188
Ok I think some of you guys are overreacting. Banned? I mean, it was a malicious thing to do, but haven't we seen those before?

Besides, we don't even know why he did it. He was probably mad at something, but we don't know what. Has he been in trouble before? I've never heard of this guy until today. You have to think about the circumstances surrounding the event.

He will no doubt be suspended for at least a few games if not the remainder of the season, and be fined heavily, but a lifetime ban just sounds outrageous.

Have you ever been kicked in the face with cleats?
 

iRONic

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Queasy
What was the penalty for that hockey player that maliciously whacked another hockey player in the head with his hockey stick and drove him into the ice? Wasn't it a one or two year suspension? This sounds just as bad if not worse.

It was Todd Bertuzzi who nailed Steve Moore, breaking his neck back in March of 2004. He was suspended indefinitely. Of course, the next season was lost due to lockout. Unfortunately, the NHL went retarded and allowed him to play the 2005-06 season. Bertuzzi ended up missing only 13 regular season games. THIRTEEN.

Ummmm, Marty McSorely hit Donald Brashear in the head with a stick and received a one year suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-sSoF40e30
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Queasy
What was the penalty for that hockey player that maliciously whacked another hockey player in the head with his hockey stick and drove him into the ice? Wasn't it a one or two year suspension? This sounds just as bad if not worse.

It was Todd Bertuzzi who nailed Steve Moore, breaking his neck back in March of 2004. He was suspended indefinitely. Of course, the next season was lost due to lockout. Unfortunately, the NHL went retarded and allowed him to play the 2005-06 season. Bertuzzi ended up missing only 13 regular season games. THIRTEEN.

Ummmm, Marty McSorely hit Donald Brashear in the head with a stick and received a one year suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-sSoF40e30

This is the hit Juju is talking about.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjdS8SDc37s
 

JujuFish

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Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Queasy
What was the penalty for that hockey player that maliciously whacked another hockey player in the head with his hockey stick and drove him into the ice? Wasn't it a one or two year suspension? This sounds just as bad if not worse.

It was Todd Bertuzzi who nailed Steve Moore, breaking his neck back in March of 2004. He was suspended indefinitely. Of course, the next season was lost due to lockout. Unfortunately, the NHL went retarded and allowed him to play the 2005-06 season. Bertuzzi ended up missing only 13 regular season games. THIRTEEN.

Ummmm, Marty McSorely hit Donald Brashear in the head with a stick and received a one year suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-sSoF40e30

Okay... are you trying to defend the NHL's actions in Bertuzzi's case?
 

altonb1

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Originally posted by: yosuke188
Ok I think some of you guys are overreacting. Banned? I mean, it was a malicious thing to do, but haven't we seen those before?

Besides, we don't even know why he did it. He was probably mad at something, but we don't know what. Has he been in trouble before? I've never heard of this guy until today. You have to think about the circumstances surrounding the event.

He will no doubt be suspended for at least a few games if not the remainder of the season, and be fined heavily, but a lifetime ban just sounds outrageous.

That is not outrageous. What he did was outrageous.
 

Fingolfin269

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I live in the Nashville area, am a huge Titans fan, and am a huge fan of the college where Haynesworth played football (Tennessee). Even I think he needs to be punished severely.
 

iRONic

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Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Queasy
What was the penalty for that hockey player that maliciously whacked another hockey player in the head with his hockey stick and drove him into the ice? Wasn't it a one or two year suspension? This sounds just as bad if not worse.

It was Todd Bertuzzi who nailed Steve Moore, breaking his neck back in March of 2004. He was suspended indefinitely. Of course, the next season was lost due to lockout. Unfortunately, the NHL went retarded and allowed him to play the 2005-06 season. Bertuzzi ended up missing only 13 regular season games. THIRTEEN.

Ummmm, Marty McSorely hit Donald Brashear in the head with a stick and received a one year suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-sSoF40e30

This is the hit Juju is talking about.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjdS8SDc37s


There's no stick to the head in that hit.
 

iRONic

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Queasy
What was the penalty for that hockey player that maliciously whacked another hockey player in the head with his hockey stick and drove him into the ice? Wasn't it a one or two year suspension? This sounds just as bad if not worse.

It was Todd Bertuzzi who nailed Steve Moore, breaking his neck back in March of 2004. He was suspended indefinitely. Of course, the next season was lost due to lockout. Unfortunately, the NHL went retarded and allowed him to play the 2005-06 season. Bertuzzi ended up missing only 13 regular season games. THIRTEEN.

Ummmm, Marty McSorely hit Donald Brashear in the head with a stick and received a one year suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-sSoF40e30

Okay... are you trying to defend the NHL's actions in Bertuzzi's case?

Nope. Just pointing out that there was no stick-to-head contact. There was in the McSorely iincident.

 
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