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oCxTiTaN

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Assault is assault, whether it be in a bar or on an NFL football field. You can clearly see him kick the helmet and stomp on his head. Clearly. That is assault.
 

Jeeebus

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Jeeebus
What really pisses me off is the home crowd undieing loyalty when crap like this happens. Haynesworth gets an unsportsmanlike conduct flag for stomping a guy twice in the head... and the crowd boos like no tomorrow the call. He could have ripped off the guy's head/spinal cord Mortal Kombat style and NFL fans would still think it was an unjust call.

I love the NFL as much as anyone, but we as fans are pretty fawkin retarded.

Oh really? I thought they were booing Nothingsworth for his actions.

they boo at the announcement of the penalty, not at the replay showing what he actually did.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Like I said stop overreacting. This is football and ****** like this goes on all the time in piles (grabbing testicles, trying to break fingers) that's how it is. And, if you don't like it and the physical play and violence and hatred during the game, then as they say....go play soccer.


5 Game suspension at most, as stomping is pretty bad.

I play soccer . Stuff like that happens also. People grab testicles, punch the kidneys, elbow to sensative areas, kick shins (not as unpainful as it may sound), and such whenever they can get away with it. Granted football is definitely much more physical, it's not as if soccer is a "sissy" sport like so many people think. If you don't like it physical, play golf .

I through my clubs at the other golfers and their caddies all the time when they make a good shot and I miss, if you don't like, go play badmitten!


hey badmitten is dangourse also! i was playing doubles in high school gym and got hit in the back of the head. ended up with a small cut on my ear =( now i have a small scar heh

i do enjoy playing it. to bad the team was female only heh.
 

torpid

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Sep 14, 2003
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People are expecting their opponents to go after them in the pile or on the field during a play. No one expects someone to come up, kick off your helmet, then stomp on your face twice well after the whistle was blown without any provocation. This it not like the warran sapp hit a few years back. Some of you apologists need to rethink your attitude. Sounds like you'd be ok if the guy had pulled out a shiv and stabbed the guy in the throat 4 times.
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jeeebus
What really pisses me off is the home crowd undieing loyalty when crap like this happens. Haynesworth gets an unsportsmanlike conduct flag for stomping a guy twice in the head... and the crowd boos like no tomorrow the call. He could have ripped off the guy's head/spinal cord Mortal Kombat style and NFL fans would still think it was an unjust call.

I love the NFL as much as anyone, but we as fans are pretty fawkin retarded.

Have you ever been to a football game? Do you really think 99% of the crowd saw the play? Hell, I watched it on TV and didn't notice it until they showed the replay and even then wanted to see it again to be sure that what I saw really happened.

I guarantee you that was NOT replayed at Titans stadium so blaming the fans for booing a call that went against their team is absurd.
 

z42

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Apr 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: torpid
People are expecting their opponents to go after them in the pile or on the field during a play. No one expects someone to come up, kick off your helmet, then stomp on your face twice well after the whistle was blown without any provocation. This it not like the warran sapp hit a few years back. Some of you apologists need to rethink your attitude. Sounds like you'd be ok if the guy had pulled out a shiv and stabbed the guy in the throat 4 times.

:thumbsup:

It's important to hold a tight standard in physical games like football so that this type of thing doesn't happen more often. That's why the NHL came down so hard in the two cases previously mentioned. Wtih the light fines and permissive attitude of the NFL over the past 10 years, I expect to see this type of incident happening more and more often.
 

Pantoot

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Jun 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: waggy
heh even his coach said they will make sure he is severly punished. yeah what he did is going to come back on him one way or another.

It sounded like the coach was more concerned with the 2 penalties:

The coach called Haynesworth's actions unacceptable and promised he would be punished by the Titans even if the NFL disciplines him.
"It's ridiculous to get to that point. Two back-to-back penalties like that, there's no place for it," Fisher said.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: Pantoot
Originally posted by: waggy
heh even his coach said they will make sure he is severly punished. yeah what he did is going to come back on him one way or another.

It sounded like the coach was more concerned with the 2 penalties:

The coach called Haynesworth's actions unacceptable and promised he would be punished by the Titans even if the NFL disciplines him.
"It's ridiculous to get to that point. Two back-to-back penalties like that, there's no place for it," Fisher said.

Had Fisher seen the play when asked the question that prompted that response? As a Titans fan and a Fisher supporter I have to assume he had NOT seen the action yet when making that statement.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: torpid
5 games is not enough but it's still more than I was expecting.

yeap same,. i feel he should be out for the year. but i was expecting a small fine and 2 game suspension.
 

Fingolfin269

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One of the Nashville news stations held a poll on whether or not Albert should have criminal charges brought against him. It was something like 77% in favor of such an action.
 

KLin

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Feb 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: yosuke188
BTW, 5 games is the longest suspension for an on-field incident in the NFL history.

He should have been suspended for the season at least IMO.
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Dec 7, 2005
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I knew it'd be some lame-ass slap on the wrist. Why, I'd love to be able to stomp on some guys face and face no criminal action for it. I guess the way to achieve this is to be a pro sports player.

 

yosuke188

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Apr 19, 2005
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Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I knew it'd be some lame-ass slap on the wrist. Why, I'd love to be able to stomp on some guys face and face no criminal action for it. I guess the way to achieve this is to be a pro sports player.

He can be arrested if Gurode decided to press charges.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Nov 9, 2004
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That penalty is total BS.

I'm sure they are tempering the punishment because Gurode's injuries aren't as bad as they could have been. But IMO the intent was there, and he could have killed or permanantly injured him.

Personally I would ban him for life, but a 1yr suspension at least was justified for the crime.
 

yosuke188

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
That penalty is total BS.

I'm sure they are tempering the punishment because Gurode's injuries aren't as bad as they could have been. But IMO the intent was there, and he could have killed or permanantly injured him.

Personally I would ban him for life, but a 1yr suspension at least was justified for the crime.

Kill? So you thought Haynesworth's intent was to kill/permanently injure Gurode? I mean, I saw the maliciousness, but he could have done a lot worse than just a stomp.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
That penalty is total BS.

I'm sure they are tempering the punishment because Gurode's injuries aren't as bad as they could have been. But IMO the intent was there, and he could have killed or permanantly injured him.

Personally I would ban him for life, but a 1yr suspension at least was justified for the crime.

Kill? So you thought Haynesworth's intent was to kill/permanently injure Gurode? I mean, I saw the maliciousness, but he could have done a lot worse than just a stomp.


I think he had the intent to harm him in a fit of anger. Did he mean to kill him? probably not, but the point is he could have, or blinded him. "Could have done a lot worse"? Short of pulling a knife or other weapon, I can't think of much worse than stomping someone in the face with metal cleats. I guess a straight handed karate punch to the throat might be worse

 

acole1

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Just now on the news the sportscaster compared the 5 game suspension to 51 game suspension in baseball.

Long enough? eh...
 
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