Orignal Earl
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Are you the youngest?
oldest. Haha. You can't get anything right
oldest. Haha. You can't get anything right
Earl were you born in the US or canada?
According to that site, we don't have paid paternity leave either. So "equality", and all that crap. Or are only females entitled to spend time with their kids?
Maternity/Paternity is not a 'vacation' nor classified and regulated as such in any of the jurisdictions presented in this thread.Equal pay should mean equal vacation time but it doesn't thus why women get paid less.
Also it needs to be given for both people with and without kids or again you are screwing out a group.
The USA is a relatively undeveloped and uncivilised regressive -- an outlier in this world of for more numerous civilised states. Yet most here are so ideologically uptight and ideologically dismissive to the costs for lacking paid leave that they destructively uphold an unsupportable pride in keeping their state down to the levels of Papua New Guinea, Swaziland, Liberia and Lesotho...The Globe and Mail
Maternity leave basics: Canada vs. the U.S.
Maternity and parental benefits provided for the birth or adoption of a baby varies wildly from country to country. The United States is part of a very exclusive group – but not for the reasons you might suspect. It shares the spotlight with Papua New Guinea, Swaziland, Liberia and Lesotho as one of the only countries in the world that doesn’t mandate some type of paid maternity leave for new mothers according to a study done by McGill University’s Institute for Health and Social Policy. In fact, when compared to its northern neighbour, the U.S. maternity leave policy is embarrassingly sparse.
Here are some of the big differences between the two countries.
Canada
The Canadian government mandates both a leave and a benefits component, the latter being administered by provincial employment insurance plans. Depending on the length of employment history and the hours worked, new mothers can take between 17 and 52 weeks of leave from their jobs. Their employers are required to accept the employees back into their jobs, or the equivalent, at the end of the mandated leave at the same rate of pay with the same employment benefits.
On top of mandating maternity leave, the government offers paid leave for
one or both parents through Canada’s employment insurance plan. A pregnant employee or new mother can take a paid maternity leave of up to 15 weeks. Either the mother or father can take 35 weeks of parental leave after the baby is born or adopted. The parents can share the leave however they choose. If eligible for the program, the benefits equal 55 per cent of the parent’s average weekly insurable wage, up to a maximum of $485 per week. For low-income families, the rate of benefits can increase to up to 80 per cent, with the same maximum of $485 per week. Employment insurance benefits are taxable in the same way as wages.
United States
In the U.S., the picture for families-to-be is very different. The federal Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) signed into law in 1993 requires employers to provide up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for several medical conditions, as well as the birth of a baby. If the mother has pre-birth complications, she may be able to take part of the leave under the medical component. Before the law was enacted, the U.S. had no laws requiring that employers provide any leave. There are still gaping holes in the FMLA, however. It exempts small employers, defined as those having fewer than 50 employees. Some states have their own version of the FMLA and have an even lower threshold for employer exemption.
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The Bottom Line
The U.S. has one of the poorest support systems for pregnant women and new mothers in the world. The Canadian system, on the other hand, provides at least a partial ongoing income for almost a year to give families time to adjust to the new addition, as well as a guarantee of re-employment after a lengthy leave.
I have a disdain for feminists who expect me to pay for their ideology.
Women wanted to be independent. And now they are throwing a fit about the consequences.
Pretty sure that had nothing to do with it.
How are you coming to that conclusion?
It's not a controversial statement. Check your American history textbooks. The colonists didn't want to be like any country in Europe. They wanted to try what George Washington called the grand experiment
The USA is a relatively undeveloped and uncivilised regressive -- an outlier in this world of for more numerous civilised states. Yet most here are so ideologically uptight and ideologically dismissive to the costs for lacking paid leave that they destructively uphold an unsupportable pride in keeping their state down to the levels of Papua New Guinea, Swaziland, Liberia and Lesotho...
what a pathetic way to avoid responding to an issue raised... pretending that it was never raised by resorting to the most pathetic and lowly grammar of nazi path of retreat from engaging.
Pretty sure that had nothing to do with it.
How are you coming to that conclusion?
This is just bizarre. The way some people talk about the original colonists to the US, anyone would think that no mass-migrations had ever happened before in the history of mankind.
"Hmmm, I'm hungry - why isn't the government feeding me?"
This is just bizarre. The way some people talk about the original colonists to the US, anyone would think that no mass-migrations had ever happened before in the history of mankind.
"Hmmm, I'm hungry - maybe I should have something to eat."
"No, it's what those bastards in Europe do! We should pray and masturbate instead."
It's not a controversial statement. Check your American history textbooks. The colonists didn't want to be like any country in Europe. They wanted to try what George Washington called the grand experiment
In 1987, Cornell University held a conference on the link between the Iroquois' government and the U.S. Constitution. It was noted that the Iroquois Great Law of Peace "includes 'freedom of speech, freedom of religion ... separation of power in government and checks and balances."
Wow, checks and balances, freedom of speech and religion. Sounds awfully familiar.
I guess I need to dumb it down for you:
We as Americans have never been too swayed by "this is how Europe does it". Other European ideas like Communism and socialism haven't gone over too well here either
I guess I need to dumb it down for you:
We as Americans have never been too swayed by "this is how Europe does it". Other European ideas like Communism and socialism haven't gone over too well here either
The left want to re-write history because they don't like the fact America was founded by poeople fleeing the very government they now want to be more like.
The first settlers came to America to be able to practice their religion in peace.
The right wingers nowadays want everyone to follow their Christian ways
Talk about baloney...
Put a sock in it, nobody is forcing you to go to church.
Do enjoy making garbage up to be argumentative?America is very hesitant to give its gov't the power to tell its privately owned businesses how to pay its employees. I don't want my gov't to tell me how much I have to pay my employee when she has a baby. That sounds great for the employee but it's a burden for the business