wow, so I'm an arsehole

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waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: sutahz
She states you are an asshole, but now just bigger then she remembers.
Seems the years that have passed have changed her as well, oh well move on and expend your energies elsewhere.

im thinking he does not have much of a choice..
 

MaxDepth

Diamond Member
Jun 12, 2001
8,757
43
91
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

a better email would be

"I am sorry i was a idiot. i did not mean to insult you or make light of the $25. I would understand if you never want to talk to me. please accept this $25 donation as apology"

 

Corbett

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2005
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The only thing worse than Myspace/Facebook is posting here about your encounters on those sites.
 

yuppiejr

Golden Member
Jul 31, 2002
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0
0
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

a better email would be

"I am sorry i was a idiot. i did not mean to insult you or make light of the $25. I would understand if you never want to talk to me. please accept this $25 donation as apology"

Would you do this in real life, seriously? Did you get kicked really hard playing soccer or something?
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
16,699
60
91
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

 

Mani

Diamond Member
Aug 9, 2001
4,808
1
0
"Why should I give to you versus my church?"
"What are you doing to earn my whopping $25?"
"Are you even serious about this?"
"$25? Can't you do better?"
"Maybe you should take some sales lessons from yours truly"

I gotta wonder how you have experience in sales, because your people skills suck.
 

yuppiejr

Golden Member
Jul 31, 2002
1,317
0
0
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Baked
She'll come back. [Crazy] chicks love assholes.

she's due back in town in a few weeks.

The only problem is, crazy chicks love COOL assholes, not self obsessed douchebag geeks who are also assholes. If you were really that good at selling shit you'd be busy deciding which of the Brazilian models to bang on your yacht and not posting this social experiment of a thread on ATOT.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: yuppiejr
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

a better email would be

"I am sorry i was a idiot. i did not mean to insult you or make light of the $25. I would understand if you never want to talk to me. please accept this $25 donation as apology"

Would you do this in real life, seriously? Did you get kicked really hard playing soccer or something?

well i wouldnt be in the situation to begin with. but he fucked up not her. so yes i would apologize and since he was thinking of makeing a donation it wouldnt hurt to give it anyway.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
10,571
3
71
Nice.... you have a friend trying to raise money for a cause and instead of a simple decision of "do you care enough to donate" you ask her to create an awkward argument, try to tell her how you can do better and at the end insult her donation.

It's a charity!!! Donate or don't donate. Just don't be a dick about it.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
41,596
19
81
I guess I'm in the minority here. It seemed like a practical way of handling the situation. TechBoyJK already donates to other charities, and he wanted to know why this one was more deserving. Then, seeing that this one wasn't bringing in much, he offered to help. This offer was apparently misinterpreted. I think the misinterpretation came from the "I think you can do better than $25" part. I interpret that as "You can bring in more than $25 from other people to aid your cause." She interpreted it as an insult, in the context of "You only donated $25, and you should have given more."

Sometimes people don't want to say, "OMG LOOK AT ME! I'm so much better than you! Watch me wave my experience in your face!!!!"
Sometimes people simply have experience or knowledge, and they want to use it to help someone else.
But of course with kindness vs arrogance, we too often tend to assume it's arrogance. Charming.

 

moparacer

Golden Member
Dec 10, 2003
1,336
0
76
Thinking about donating, I message her, stating I normally give to my church and cancer missions are part of their overall plan. Putting the message in a "devil's advocate" form basically asking why I should give to her organization instead of my church, she just replies back with a brief "thanks for your consideration"

What were you looking for a sales pitch or something? Its a freakin request for donations to fight cancer...If you ask me you were looking for a reason to push her buttons...

Congrats! You succeeded!
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
16,699
60
91
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh


yea, well if she doesn't apologize for calling me an asshole and self centered, then I don't care if she talks to me.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
10,571
3
71
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon.
I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh

/extended the bolding to what I think should've been left out.
 

anxi80

Lifer
Jul 7, 2002
12,294
2
0
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh

he replies back with a half-assed apology and then has the gall to ask for an apology back?!? :laugh:
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
16,699
60
91
Originally posted by: Jeff7
I guess I'm in the minority here. It seemed like a practical way of handling the situation. TechBoyJK already donates to other charities, and he wanted to know why this one was more deserving. Then, seeing that this one wasn't bringing in much, he offered to help. This offer was apparently misinterpreted. I think the misinterpretation came from the "I think you can do better than $25" part. I interpret that as "You can bring in more than $25 from other people to aid your cause." She interpreted it as an insult, in the context of "You only donated $25, and you should have given more."

Sometimes people don't want to say, "OMG LOOK AT ME! I'm so much better than you! Watch me wave my experience in your face!!!!"
Sometimes people simply have experience or knowledge, and they want to use it to help someone else.
But of course with kindness vs arrogance, we too often tend to assume it's arrogance. Charming.


wow thank you.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh


yea, well if she doesn't apologize for calling me an asshole and self centered, then I don't care if she talks to me.

but you were an asshole and self centered. that is what we are saying. you do not deserve a aplology you were in the wrong.
 

Vehemence

Banned
Jan 25, 2008
5,943
0
0
Originally posted by: waggy
but you were an asshole and self centered. that is what we are saying. you do not deserve a aplology you were in the wrong.

I'm not seeing how he can not realize his error and how he deserves no apologies.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
16,699
60
91
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh


yea, well if she doesn't apologize for calling me an asshole and self centered, then I don't care if she talks to me.

but you were an asshole and self centered. that is what we are saying. you do not deserve a aplology you were in the wrong.


how was I self centered? I'm busy as hell and I offered to help her in more ways than just giving money.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Email message to her:
"Well, I tried to be helpful and even thought of donating to your cause. But for some reason you are ripping me a new one and I don't deserve it. Please do not contact me again if you persist in this behavior."

And then it'll be up to you to not contact her either. If she never emails or calls you again then you have to accept that too.

already did that. I basically said "we'll I'm sorry I poorly communicated my intentions, I don't blame you for misentrpreting. But I do think I deserve better, and as much as I owe you an apology not thinking of a better way to word things, you owe me one for reacting the way you did. For the first five minutes I was stunned because I didn't understand how I hurt your feelings.

I do have a full time job, and I'm strapped for cash because I'm moving soon. I normally give to my church which covers causes like yours. I have a big heart, and I can never decide what charities to give to, so I let my church decide.

I wasn't trying to insult you, or your donations, or your donors, just trying to give a good push in the right direction to help you get even more. That is all. I just thought I could help make a difference for you.

well it started out good. then you went all douchy again. the bolded could have been left out. YOU were acting like a dick to her. she gave you hints to back off you didnt. you kept pushing and pushing.

should be good to see if she messages you back heh


yea, well if she doesn't apologize for calling me an asshole and self centered, then I don't care if she talks to me.

but you were an asshole and self centered. that is what we are saying. you do not deserve a aplology you were in the wrong.


how was I self centered? I'm busy as hell and I offered to help her in more ways than just giving money.

wow you are a idiot.
 
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