Wow...talk about cold blooded: mom makes 12yr old son kill hamster after bad grades

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Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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You are an idiot.

Totally reasonable?

Haha.

"Only a hamster" - it was a PET. And pets are protected under law. And no, we shouldn't "do anything we want" to rats after we catch them but that's a discussion for another time.

Ever had a pet of your own? What'd happen if someone smashed it over the head and killed it because of bad grades? Absolutely deplorable. It's not so much the hamster, but the scarring this will cause the child.

Oh, and I might have forgot to mention - you are an idiot.

Yes, I had a pet. I wouldn't care about the pet, its only a pet. People get too emotional about pets; they're only animals. We eat animals every day. Don't treat a pet like another human. America has been officially pussified.
 

HenryC

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Yes, I had a pet. I wouldn't care about the pet, its only a pet. People get too emotional about pets; they're only animals. We eat animals every day. Don't treat a pet like another human. America has been officially pussified.

Ah yes, because saying that killing a pet for "disciplinary reasons" is uncalled for, is the same as giving it a social security number, healthcare benefits and schooling. And if you "didn't care" about the pet, you'd be breaking the law - neglecting pet animals is illegal.

Again; you are an idiot.
 

surfsatwerk

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Yes, I had a pet. I wouldn't care about the pet, its only a pet. People get too emotional about pets; they're only animals. We eat animals every day. Don't treat a pet like another human. America has been officially pussified.

I'm glad you feel you can ignore laws that you don't like, but in the real world there's consequences.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Yes, I had a pet. I wouldn't care about the pet, its only a pet. People get too emotional about pets; they're only animals. We eat animals every day. Don't treat a pet like another human. America has been officially pussified.

That's why it's called animal cruelty.
 

DougK62

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Any child psychologist would turn white over hearing this story. Yikes.
 

Hacp

Lifer
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Lol you're all pussified. Do you think if this happened in Russia, China, or India, the mother would have been punished? No, she would have been praised for figuring out a brilliant way to motivate her child. This is why America turning into shit and why the other 3 countries are rising powers.
 
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I don't give two shits about the hamster, it's about the child. If you had pets when you were little, wouldn't you be sad if one of them died? Now imagine your parent forcing you to kill the pet as a form of punishment.

Really, really sadistic and fucked up.

edit: As far as the battery charge, maybe she hit the child as well. Doesn't seem like a big stretch for a mother that would make her kid kill a pet.

And if the kid picked up a few ants from the ground and had them as pets and fed them pieces of food everyday, and the mom ordered them killed would anyone give two shits about what the mom made the kid do? NOPE.

Hamster or whatever does matter. If you're killing a dog, then that's a problem. A hamster? Please. I would never do this and I would frown upon anyone doing what this parent did, but to waste money with our legal system dealing with something as trivial as this? Get over it.
 

HenryC

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I'm glad you feel you can ignore laws that you don't like, but in the real world there's consequences.

Are you from the UK?

Because in the UK, it is a felony to leave an animal alive on a trap, unattended and not humanely euthanise it if it is suffering unnecessarily.
 

Capt Caveman

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Lol you're all pussified. Do you think if this happened in Russia, China, or India, the mother would have been punished? No, she would have been praised for figuring out a brilliant way to motivate her child. This is why America turning into shit and why the other 3 countries are rising powers.

And in more civilized countries, like in Europe, it would again be considered animal cruelty.
 

HenryC

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And if the kid picked up a few ants from the ground and had them as pets and fed them pieces of food everyday, and the mom ordered them killed would anyone give two shits about what the mom made the kid do? NOPE.

Ants don't feel pain, or have the capacity to suffer as a mammal would.

Hamster or whatever does matter. If you're killing a dog, then that's a problem. A hamster? Please. I would never do this and I would frown upon anyone doing what this parent did, but to waste money with our legal system dealing with something as trivial as this? Get over it.

Why is it trivial?

It's not about the hamster, really.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
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You are an idiot.

Totally reasonable?

Haha.

"Only a hamster" - it was a PET. And pets are protected under law. And no, we shouldn't "do anything we want" to rats after we catch them but that's a discussion for another time.

Ever had a pet of your own? What'd happen if someone smashed it over the head and killed it because of bad grades? Absolutely deplorable. It's not so much the hamster, but the scarring this will cause the child.

Oh, and I might have forgot to mention - you are an idiot.

Pay him no mind, he's just trolling.
 

HenryC

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Lol you're all pussified. Do you think if this happened in Russia, China, or India, the mother would have been punished? No, she would have been praised for figuring out a brilliant way to motivate her child. This is why America turning into shit and why the other 3 countries are rising powers.

China? lol
 

Hacp

Lifer
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In Russia? Maybe. I don't know their laws though. Who cares what China or India do, the mother was not from those countries.

And the reason why America might be getting 'worse' is because of your education and health system, and the people up at the top.

Great example using China though, a country whose human rights record is abysmal.

Guess what? There is a reason why the Russian/chinese/indian economy is growing while US/EU isn't. Its cause they don't pamper their children like we do.

In the US we have sociologists and psychologists ruining our country.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
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And if the kid picked up a few ants from the ground and had them as pets and fed them pieces of food everyday, and the mom ordered them killed would anyone give two shits about what the mom made the kid do? NOPE.

I think people would care, though they'd interpret it with less severity. It's still a mindfuck for the kid.
 

frostedflakes

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And if the kid picked up a few ants from the ground and had them as pets and fed them pieces of food everyday, and the mom ordered them killed would anyone give two shits about what the mom made the kid do? NOPE.

Hamster or whatever does matter. If you're killing a dog, then that's a problem. A hamster? Please. I would never do this and I would frown upon anyone doing what this parent did, but to waste money with our legal system dealing with something as trivial as this? Get over it.
Just seems different with larger animals. To me, squishing ants is much more trivial than killing something large like a hamster. Weird how that works out, because if you look at it objectively, there's really no difference -- in both cases, you're taking life from another creature.

But like I said, you have to consider the effect on the child. In general, I'd think killing a hamster would be far more traumatic for a kid than killing some ants. And as far as getting the DFCS involved, if there's child abuse going on, I don't see how it's a waste of money. For all we know, this could just be scratching the surface and there is much more abuse that we don't know about yet going on in this household. Maybe there's physical abuse as well.
 

Hacp

Lifer
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Why would we spend money keeping this woman in jail? Give her probation. End of story.

Probation? For disciplining your own child? Imagine what would have happened if the mother gave her son a few wacks with the broom. She probably would have served a few years in our current system.
 

nerp

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Guess what? There is a reason why the Russian/chinese/indian economy is growing while US/EU isn't. Its cause they don't pamper their children like we do.

In the US we have sociologists and psychologists ruining our country.

Maybe you should pack up and move and let us know how your new life goes if you can't deal with American laws that outlaw bashing animals to death for no other reason than "i felt like it."
 

Matthiasa

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Sounds about how A biology teacher I had use to kill rats he feed to his snakes. Though he just hit there heads into something instead.

That said thats not something you should force a kid to do.
 

shiner

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Another thing, I've never believed in discipline based on grades. It's not a child's fault that grades are not good. Some tests/courses can be hard and no matter how hard you try, you wont get good grades.

Keep trying...I'm sure one day you will finally get that elusive GED.
 

Venix

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Lol you're all pussified. Do you think if this happened in Russia, China, or India, the mother would have been punished? No, she would have been praised for figuring out a brilliant way to motivate her child. This is why America turning into shit and why the other 3 countries are rising powers.

You mean the same Russia that built a statue in honor of a stray dog that was stabbed to death? And arrested, tried and convicted the killer, sentencing her to a year in a psychiatric hospital?

Yet another ignorant and moronic Hacp post. What a surprise.
 

LumbergTech

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Lol you're all pussified. Do you think if this happened in Russia, China, or India, the mother would have been punished? No, she would have been praised for figuring out a brilliant way to motivate her child. This is why America turning into shit and why the other 3 countries are rising powers.

Yes, because people who don't enjoy unnecessary brutality are pussies...

You really are a piece of work

I agree with your point that relatively speaking its no different than a lot of other things that people do, but personally I can't imagine doing something that evil to a child.
 
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