kolt

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OK I found a copy of WoW and am planning on loading it up tonight. Any suggestions on which server is the best?
 

zzzz

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There is no "best" server. Go to the official forums and see which ones have highest population. And avoid them.
Choose one with low pops. Also see if you want to do PVP or just PVE.
 

mchammer187

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if you want to play on a pretty balanced PvP server Sargeras

horde and alliance populations are fairly close

it is fairly high population thoughi have never experienced a queue to log except for right after launch
 

cKGunslinger

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I'm on Shadowsong (PvE), and have never had to wait to log in or anything. The server was down for the better part of a day last week, along with a few others, but it's been fine other than that.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: gsaldivar
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

In my opinion, you want:

1) A server with a high population.
2) A server with a minimal difference in faction ratio.

are you on crack?

why the fvck would a new person want a High pop?
thats retarded and whats casuing the problems..

Queues are not going to get any better till people leave those servers.. getting peoiple to join them is makign the problem worse...

he needs to join a light to meduim load server so he can play when he wants to play with no lag...
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: gsaldivar
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

In my opinion, you want:

1) A server with a high population.
2) A server with a minimal difference in faction ratio.

are you on crack?

why the fvck would a new person want a High pop?
thats retarded and whats casuing the problems..

Queues are not going to get any better till people leave those servers.. getting peoiple to join them is makign the problem worse...

he needs to join a light to meduim load server so he can play when he wants to play with no lag...

LOL, I was goning to ask the same thing (only a bit more politely.)

Why would you recommend anyone join a high-pop server, as those are the ones with all the probs because they aren't equipped to handle the load? That's why Blizzard is investigating the ability to allow players to move their characters to a different server.
 

MrBond

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Well, with a high population server, there's more people to group with and you're less likely to find deserted zones.

Honestly though, you should find a server where a lot of your friends play or where you know people who are playing. This game is 100x better if you're in a good guild with awesome people.
 

gsaldivar

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Originally posted by: MrBond
Well, with a high population server, there's more people to group with and you're less likely to find deserted zones.

Honestly though, you should find a server where a lot of your friends play or where you know people who are playing. This game is 100x better if you're in a good guild with awesome people.

Precisely.

I'm on the second-largest PvE realm, and while there is some lag from time to time, the ability to easily find groups for nearly every zone and questline at any given moment, easily makes up for the occasional inconvenience.

Blizz is continually working to uptimize and upgrade the servers, so that they are able to support the number of users they are rated at. The problem isn't the number of new users on the servers - its that the servers aren't yet fully optimized to the point where they are able to handle their rated load without occasional downtime.

If/when Blizz feels that they are no longer able to further optimize these servers to support additional users, these realms will be CLOSED to new users, and new servers will be introduced.

In the meantime, I'd recommend anyone thinking of playing WoW not to overlook the benefits of playing on a high-load server. Yes, you will experience occasional downtime/lag and or server queues, however, you will be able to maximize your chances of grouping with skilled players and ultimately have a more rewarding end-game experience.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Originally posted by: MrBond
Well, with a high population server, there's more people to group with and you're less likely to find deserted zones.

Honestly though, you should find a server where a lot of your friends play or where you know people who are playing. This game is 100x better if you're in a good guild with awesome people.

Precisely.

I'm on the second-largest PvE realm, and while there is some lag from time to time, the ability to easily find groups for nearly every zone and questline at any given moment, easily makes up for the occasional inconvenience.

Blizz is continually working to uptimize and upgrade the servers, so that they are able to support the number of users they are rated at. The problem isn't the number of new users on the servers - its that the servers aren't yet fully optimized to the point where they are able to handle their rated load without occasional downtime.

If/when Blizz feels that they are no longer able to further optimize these servers to support additional users, these realms will be CLOSED to new users, and new servers will be introduced.

In the meantime, I'd recommend anyone thinking of playing WoW not to overlook the benefits of playing on a high-load server. Yes, you will experience occasional downtime/lag and or server queues, however, you will be able to maximize your chances of grouping with skilled players and ultimately have a more rewarding end-game experience.


you sir are a freaking retard...
no wonder so many morons are bitching about queues and lag..
guess what ladies and gentlemen! i found the moron that thinks its better!


wow.. just freaking wow... can you even get any dumber?
High population= too many peoples... = spawn camping = harder to find groups becasue there are 100x your class also looking for a group for same thing...
aslo = less demand on trade good beacsue 400 other people are doing the same thing so you make less money....

notice that most of the uber guilds picked lower pop servers.... there is plenty of logic to this...
noone was in thier way to level up.. they never had to wait becasue a spawn was over camped by 1900000 people trying to get the same drop as you...
or becasue such and such is a hot leveling spot and all mobs are dead and they are waiting for more to pop....

WoW is not designed to support high pop servers.. that is the problem
no amount of fixing hardware is going to fix game design which isnt going to be modified to fix those morons that wont move off those servers....

You must be an MMO newbie to even suggest this...

to the OP run far away from high pop servers... if you have any doubt why spend 20 minutes in either the wow forums
or try for yourself get to where the average level is and see how long you have to wait for groups and monsters.. and or to be ganked over and over by a bored player from the other side because of the high pop he has nothing better to do...

some of the best PVP is taking place on the smaller servers..

 

bcterps

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First of all, wowcensus and any sites out there are crap. Their methodology is flawed at best, and the numbers they report on faction population don't mean jack. The only meaningful information you might get would be about overall server population, and that too is suspect. I would recommend a low to medium server so that you aren't bothered with queues or lag. I myself play on Lightning's Blade, a low-med pop PvP server and I have experienced no issues since launch. I was on Dalaran (PvE) at launch and that was horrible, it was down for 4 days and I never got back on.
 

gsaldivar

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Originally posted by: CVSiN

High population= too many peoples... = spawn camping = harder to find groups becasue there are 100x your class also looking for a group for same thing...

Spawn rates have been adjusted on high population servers to compensate for the additional traffic.

"Too many people = harder to find groups"......? Um, ok.

notice that most of the uber guilds picked lower pop servers.... there is plenty of logic to this...
noone was in thier way to level up...

I'm in the #1 guild on both factions on Hellscream, currently the second largest PvE server. The larger population on our server has definitely worked to our advantage, giving us the opportunity to pick & choose from a wide range of highly skilled players, rather than relying primarily on the players we brought over from closed beta.

they never had to wait becasue a spawn was over camped by 1900000 people trying to get the same drop as you...or becasue such and such is a hot leveling spot and all mobs are dead and they are waiting for more to pop

Once you leave the newbie zones, mob camping becomes less and less of an issue. There are hundreds of quests available in the realm - if you find that a particular mob is being camped, simply work on a different quest and come back later.

I've NEVER had a problem in retail where I've been unable to complete a given quest because an area was continually camped...

WoW is not designed to support high pop servers.. that is the problem
no amount of fixing hardware is going to fix game design which isnt going to be modified to fix those morons that wont move off those servers....

Getting rid of players may reduce lag and/or server queues, but will also reduce your chances of finding parties for quests, and finding other skilled players in general. If you're happy with this compromise, then by all means - sign up for a low population server.

to the OP run far away from high pop servers... if you have any doubt why spend 20 minutes in either the wow forums or try for yourself get to where the average level is and see how long you have to wait for groups and monsters..

If you spend 20 minutes in the WoW forums, you can page after page of players complaining about EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the game. This is nothing new...

ganked over and over by a bored player from the other side because of the high pop he has nothing better to do...

Welcome to PvP.

If you find that its easier for you to level on a low population to avoid repeated ganking in contested areas, that's fine. But your issue isn't with the population of the server, its with the play style you chose. This isn't even an issue on PvE servers with high population...

some of the best PVP is taking place on the smaller servers..

k good luck with that.

 

gsaldivar

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Originally posted by: benchiu
First of all, wowcensus and any sites out there are crap. Their methodology is flawed at best, and the numbers they report on faction population don't mean jack. The only meaningful information you might get would be about overall server population, and that too is suspect. I would recommend a low to medium server so that you aren't bothered with queues or lag. I myself play on Lightning's Blade, a low-med pop PvP server and I have experienced no issues since launch. I was on Dalaran (PvE) at launch and that was horrible, it was down for 4 days and I never got back on.


Specifically, what numbers on wowcensus do you think are inaccurate?

 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Originally posted by: CVSiN

High population= too many peoples... = spawn camping = harder to find groups becasue there are 100x your class also looking for a group for same thing...

Spawn rates have been adjusted on high population servers to compensate for the additional traffic.

"Too many people = harder to find groups"......? Um, ok.

notice that most of the uber guilds picked lower pop servers.... there is plenty of logic to this...
noone was in thier way to level up...

I'm in the #1 guild on both factions on Hellscream, currently the second largest PvE server. The larger population on our server has definitely worked to our advantage, giving us the opportunity to pick & choose from a wide range of highly skilled players, rather than relying primarily on the players we brought over from closed beta.

they never had to wait becasue a spawn was over camped by 1900000 people trying to get the same drop as you...or becasue such and such is a hot leveling spot and all mobs are dead and they are waiting for more to pop

Once you leave the newbie zones, mob camping becomes less and less of an issue. There are hundreds of quests available in the realm - if you find that a particular mob is being camped, simply work on a different quest and come back later.

I've NEVER had a problem in retail where I've been unable to complete a given quest because an area was continually camped...

WoW is not designed to support high pop servers.. that is the problem
no amount of fixing hardware is going to fix game design which isnt going to be modified to fix those morons that wont move off those servers....

Getting rid of players may reduce lag and/or server queues, but will also reduce your chances of finding parties for quests, and finding other skilled players in general. If you're happy with this compromise, then by all means - sign up for a low population server.

to the OP run far away from high pop servers... if you have any doubt why spend 20 minutes in either the wow forums or try for yourself get to where the average level is and see how long you have to wait for groups and monsters..

If you spend 20 minutes in the WoW forums, you can page after page of players complaining about EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the game. This is nothing new...

ganked over and over by a bored player from the other side because of the high pop he has nothing better to do...

Welcome to PvP.

If you find that its easier for you to level on a low population to avoid repeated ganking in contested areas, that's fine. But your issue isn't with the population of the server, its with the play style you chose. This isn't even an issue on PvE servers with high population...

some of the best PVP is taking place on the smaller servers..

k good luck with that.

LOL must not be a "good" guild if you had to recruit from within WoW....
we have had the same members since UO... 8 years ago.. 10 games ago same roster we dont recruit at all... and never will.. we dont want just anyone on our tag..
Same Policy Conquest FOH and Afterlife follow...

Well... being on a pansey ass PVE server Ya I guess you dont have many problems... except for overcamping of areas..
btw where do you get your info there has been no such changes to any wow server.. the only thing that was adjusted was the servers hardware...

Blizzard wants people off those overcrowded servers they have posted over and over to the complainiers to MOVE.. they have never caved in and upped spawns on any server...

Well if you are in an "uber guild" like you say you are.. of course you never had a problem with overcrowding or fighting for mobs..
you are always in the upper 5% of your servers levels.... so yes you are ahead of the crowd...
the OP isnt so lucky to have brought an Uber guild with him.. like I did or to have joined one like you did...
he is going to be stuck with all the other average people....
BTW what kinda guild are you in that you group with random peeps anyway?
we ONLY group within guild if possible other wise we solo till a guild group does become availible...
we dont want to share our drops with people we are compteteing agasint same faction or not..
plus pick up groups generally get you killed with unskilled players...


BTW even on the most unpopulated servers its only horde that has problems with groups.. becasue the horde lands and classes suck =P
Alllaince makes up roughly 75% of the pop on most servers....
leading to crowding and the problems I described above..

we started on Archimonde... the elite of the Elite PVP server... it crashed 2nd day of release and did not come up for 4 days it was miserable when it was up everything was camped up to L30...I was glad when our guild leader moved us to Gorefiend to a low pop...
 

NeoV

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you can't take your character with you from server to server, can you?
 

bcterps

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Originally posted by: NeoV
you can't take your character with you from server to server, can you?

They are working on that supposedly, my guess they will allow a one time move from a high pop server to a low pop server, but it has to be from PvE to PvE, no PvE to PvP server jumping and vice versa.
 

bcterps

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Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Originally posted by: benchiu
First of all, wowcensus and any sites out there are crap. Their methodology is flawed at best, and the numbers they report on faction population don't mean jack. The only meaningful information you might get would be about overall server population, and that too is suspect. I would recommend a low to medium server so that you aren't bothered with queues or lag. I myself play on Lightning's Blade, a low-med pop PvP server and I have experienced no issues since launch. I was on Dalaran (PvE) at launch and that was horrible, it was down for 4 days and I never got back on.


Specifically, what numbers on wowcensus do you think are inaccurate?


The Horde/Alliance populations I'm sure are grossly inaccurate. The most that these programs can do is survey using the /who function which only returns a max of 49 people at any given time. These programs try to modify ranges until they get less than 49 and then compile those into some kind of server "population" number. Also it's completely dependant on zone, as well as time you're logged in. Only Blizzard has the accurate numbers and they aint giving them out. Blizzard has already stated that the factions are much more balanced than most people think.
 
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