Wrecked 2001 Celica GT :(

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Jerboy

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It's impossible to tell how a new kid is going to drive

If your kid had a driver's permit and he/she's driven under your supervision, you can get a hang of what he/she's capable of.

thats the reason why new drivers should NEVER get new cars. You need to gain experience on something disposable.

I don't think of it as disposable. I would want to start out with a safe car, not a 1984 Civic. Car maybe repaleable, but life isn't.

I have had friends that got brand new cars when they learned to drive, and I'm not kidding, EVERY ONE OF THEM totalled their car.

I hear you. In my school, it isn't that special for me to be chatting with friends and hear "oh dude!, so and so totalled his car!", well I hear it at least twice during a school year.

How long did they have their car before they totalled it? The only thing I've ever hit was a tree and I barely tapped it with my bumper when I was backing up. Had to take soft scrub and buff it out

Whats with brand new male driver's obsesson with "fast car"? Most cars are capable of catching up with the traffic. Speed doesn't mix well with hormone pumped brand new male driver.


 

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It's just not the fact that many young drivers are wreckless and drive irresponsibly, a very big factor is that they are inexperienced drivers.

I don't care if you are 16 or 36, if you have never driven a vehicle before then you stand a much greater chance of being in an accident than someone who has 10 years and 150,000 miles of driving under their belt.

I believe that the lack of experience is one of the main reasons so many kids get into wrecks. Sure they were driving fast, almost everyone does at some point in there life. It's just that they don't have the experience to know how to handle the vehicle once something bad starts to happen.
 

Jerboy

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<< It's just not the fact that many young drivers are wreckless and drive irresponsibly, a very big factor is that they are inexperienced drivers.

I don't care if you are 16 or 36, if you have never driven a vehicle before then you stand a much greater chance of being in an accident than someone who has 10 years and 150,000 miles of driving under their belt.

I believe that the lack of experience is one of the main reasons so many kids get into wrecks. Sure they were driving fast, almost everyone does at some point in there life. It's just that they don't have the experience to know how to handle the vehicle once something bad starts to happen.
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Actually AGE does matter GREATLY and so does gender. Teenagers have more testosterone and they're very caught up with trying to show off people. Generally young people doesn't think about consequence before doing something as much as someone whose twice as old with similar experience.
 

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I never said age DIDN'T matter. What I did say is that young age + lack of experience = bad results.
 

Blundar

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racing should be mandatory for teenagers for two reasons:
1. It will get it out of their system and keep it off the road
2. It will teach them how to handle things like a car sliding, oversteer, understeer, torque steer, cornering


I actually don't think its such a bad idea...
I've totalled one car + wrecked a bunch in the 7 years or so I've had my license.

A lot of it was not knowing how to handle the car. Now that I've started to learn how to drive HARD, I know how to handle the car under normal conditions better.
 

Jerboy

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<< i have no words for the sheer stupidity of this situation.:disgust: >>




how about a mandatory 70mph governor on new driver's vehicle for the first year and denial of insurance payment(for his medical expense and the vehicle) if governor was found to be disabled at the time of the accident?

At least if this was inplemented, we shouldn't see anymore "teenager wraps around a tree taking a corner at 100mph" articles.

I'm not saying all, quite a number of teenage boy drivers are so excited and would take it up to 100mph or so first day after getting their license(I know it, because a few friends did exactly this)
 

mztykal

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Those are the ugliest Enkei rims I've ever seen in my life. You should have kept the stock GT rims on there.
 

ZeroBurn

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where exactly do you draw the line between experienced/inexperienced and good/bad drivers? i have friends and people i know that will do some crazy stuff in their cars just because they can and like to show it off, being young and all. these are also the people i refuse to get into a car with. this lack of responsibility and carelessness is definitely an issue with younger people, i don't expect to see my parents doing donuts in the parking lot or heel-toe'ing around mountain curves. this is what makes younger drivers more at risk i would think, the tendency for them to push themselves/their vechicle to the limit, not necessarily that they don't know how to handle the situation.

but age is such a loose factor when determining experience, in my opinion. many of my friends are very experienced drivers, and though they may not have as much travel time behind the wheels than an older commuter, i would trust my life in their hands as a passenger much more so. for example, my dad's been driving for more than 30 years on a regular basis. although he also gets extremely lazy/confident as he's driving and not as attentive as many of the younger drivers. lack of signaling while changing lanes, posture, etc. most of my friends are incredibly attentive as they drive, paranoid of road conditions, and constantly scanning the road for signs of possible trouble. aside from that, another example age doesn't necessarily mean experience is with my mom. whenever she gets into the slightest trouble on the road she completely flips out and doesn't know how to handle the situation. she's one of the most in-experienced drivers IMHO, with over 30 years beind the wheel as well. things like skidding, braking hard on ice, and such concepts totally elude her. every single one of my friends however knows what it means to countersteer, the functions of ABS, etc. i would trust one of them driving me up to tahoe rather than her.

i'm taking advanced driving classes to learn what it really means to handle my car. i don't plan on taking mountain curves and playing initial d (hell, i've never even seen the anime), but i would like the experience under my belt in case the need arises. i'd just like to make it a point that while teenagers obviously have a higher risk rate than adults, it's not necessarily because of any set age or experience. common sense and responsibily play a huge role, instead of placing limits on age i think it would be much more productive to set boundaries on driver ability and education. any schmuck can take the drive test and get a license, but if you need to go through personal training and spend some time demonstrating you know that ABS isn't just a muscle, i think you're ahead of the pack.

maybe i'm wrong though and everyone over 30 with 30,000 miles is automatically a safer driver than a 18-20 year old.

 

Nefrodite

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It's impossible to tell how a new kid is going to drive, thats the reason why new drivers should NEVER get new cars.

hm well no, if you can afford to bang up a new corolla or some other sensible yet pretty safe (dual+ airbags etc)car then its also a decent choice. once your kid rubs part of it against a concrete garage pole or something ruining their spotless neew car they'll learn to get pissed at themselves just ban your kid from modding it

and man, never ever let a friend with a lesser car then you mess with your stuff.. well at that age atleast.

he did do you a favor on the rims though.. those totally don't match the styling of the car

i dunno.. seeing a pretty car banged up is so wrong
 
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