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What stops them from buying a regular 8800GT for ~$180?
What stops them from buying a regular 8800GT for ~$180?
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Why not then just buy them up flash bios and sell for profit?
The video card firmware is still different, Mac video cards need to support certain EFI features that traditional video cards don't. Furthermore the firmware for the Intel Mac video cards is 128KB, as opposed to 64KB for PC video cards, so you can't just flash a PC card.Originally posted by: v8envy
In the olden days the cards had support for OpenFirmware, the powermac equivalent of BIOS. If your video card couldn't talk to OpenFirmware you couldn't use your monitor until the OS came up and loaded drivers. Which made troubleshooting boot issues a big problem.
These days I'd be shocked if the boxes contain anything more different than a mac OS driver disk vs a windows disk. But I still wouldn't be adventurous enough to try it on a real mac.
Originally posted by: Lithan
To be honest it's not us who's making mac users look bad. It's the mac ads, they basically say, "Hey, you! You're a retard who can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground... buy a mac cause PC's are too complex!"
Originally posted by: Piuc2020
You guys are giving Mac users much less credit than they deserve, stereotypes are a sign of ignorance and stupidity, computer techies are a minority in both the PC and Macintosh ends of the spectrum.
Intel Macs uses EFI and PCs use BIOS, the firmware inside the 8800GT rom is just different (it's actually quite bigger on the Mac) flashing is possible but it's not always a trouble-free experience. Even if you have to spend a little bit more, just buying it and getting it to work right out of the box is one of the things that makes Mac computers so great. Flashing the card also requires a previous dump which in the case of the 8800GT... was NOWHERE to be found up until now (because it didn't exist), PC video cards could be recognized under boot-camp but never on Mac OSX. Currently the ONLY way to get a PC videocard to work properly under Windows and Mac OSX is if a Mac version already exists so you have a firmware to flash.
Hackintosh is a different case altogether and doesn't prove anything because the card is still recognized and running on a bios-powered computer.
It just seems lately people can't give NVIDIA some ****ing credit, they criticize everything they do like they are the ones who know all about semiconductors and the market.
Originally posted by: Lithan
To be honest it's not us who's making mac users look bad. It's the mac ads, they basically say, "Hey, you! You're a retard who can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground... buy a mac cause PC's are too complex!"
Well sure, because you don't actually have any options.Originally posted by: Juddog
You don't have to hunt around for every specific driver
Originally posted by: s44
Well sure, because you don't actually have any options.Originally posted by: Juddog
You don't have to hunt around for every specific driver
Originally posted by: Lithan
To be honest it's not us who's making mac users look bad. It's the mac ads, they basically say, "Hey, you! You're a retard who can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground... buy a mac cause PC's are too complex!"
Originally posted by: gersson
macs are awesome. If it wasn't for games, I don't see any reason to keep my Vista install.
(I'm on a hackintosh)
I have a friend who has this problem as well. On a PC somebody would have found a firmware hack for it or something...Originally posted by: nanaki333
that and it constantly drops my wireless connection or DNS just stops functioning randomly
Originally posted by: s44
I have a friend who has this problem as well. On a PC somebody would have found a firmware hack for it or something...Originally posted by: nanaki333
that and it constantly drops my wireless connection or DNS just stops functioning randomly
As for the ads, they mostly tell me that I'm not enough of a smug jerk to want a Mac.