WTF?! Dell GLUED the DDR DIMM in the PC! Just touching it killed the system.

CZroe

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A guy at wourk found out that I knew my sh1t so all of a sudden I'm his computer guy... He just showed up with it and asked me to take a look at it... Well, I told him that I do that stuff for people routinely so I sorta asked for that. He keeps asking me how much I'll charge him so he's willing to pay me something but that's not the problem:

I take it home, find out that I have no password or restore disc (There were a bunch of Dell discs, but no restore disc) and I can't log in to the *real* Administrator account because it's Home Edition. I couldn't really do anything more than asses that he needed more memory than the 128MB it shipped with. I popped open the side-panel and took a look at the memory module to confirm the type/speed. I noticed that the clips wouldn't budge because the module was glued it! No biggie. I could still see the label... Micron CL2.5 DDR266. I had barely touched the clips before determining that it was glued in, but just in case I pushed the memory from the top to make sure it was still firmly seated (It didn't budge). I told him the next day that I couldn't log in to see if I could clean up his system nor could I backup/restore his PC, but I HAD determined that he needed more memory (The system only had 128MB w/ XP Home). I had the PC ready to give back to him with absolutely nothing done to it IF he didn't want to share his password with me and couldn't get the restore disc. He left work early and I was left with the PC. Over the weekend while I was at my other job, I was reminded that you COULD log in as Administrator from Safe Mode and that was all I really needed to do to remove Spyware and crap. I was there all weekend, so I could only ask my twin brother to do it and give up some other computer work of his own. He reported that the system would not even turn on! It was a very uncomfortable weekend at my other job where I was panicing trying to figure out what was wrong before I had to give it back Monday morning. I determined pretty quickly that touching the glued-in memory had probably created a bad connection (Glue bits and what not) or ESD had fried it. Either way, with it being glued in there was no way to confirm that by trying other memory because it was freakin' glued in! What the Hell was Dell thinking?! 30hrs later, my brother had gotten the glue covered module out. Sure enough, there was glue all over the contacts and in the socket. No other memory would work in that socket but putting memory of our own in the other socket correctly proved that Dell is retarded. I can't just give this guy my memory, but I dread telling the guy that his computer died before I even did anything to it. If only he hadn't left early he would have gotten my print-out stating what I needed and that nothing had been done but he needed more memory (I was very professional ).

I'll be seeing him in an hour. Screw Dell. Did they not expect glue to cause a problem when the memory dies? Did they not even realize that the glue could be 100% responsible for killing the memory AND prevent an easy fix?! I'm vigorously scraping glue off the contacts with my fingernail while SP2 installs. Maybe it still works, but more likely if ESD didn't kill it in the first place all this man-handling and glue scraping has (Rubbing glue bits off with my static-inducing shirt!). Not only that, but now he will be getting rid of one module for another when he upgrades and that is NOT COOL because I could be blamed.
 

Wall7486

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They have the tendency of not wanting their customer to touch the components. Less opening of the case = less chance that you have to call their tech support. Of course that's assuming there are no other type of defects.
 

AmberClad

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This sounds unusual...none of the various Dell models I've ever bought/been given have ever had RAM modules "glued" in. You just unlatch the clips and pop them out like any other system.
 

MrChad

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I've seen the insides of many Dell systems and not one had memory modules glued in.
 

JLGatsby

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This is why you shouldn't tell people you know anything about computers.

"Computers? What are those. I type my letters on a Remington."
 

Theguynextdoor

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Depending on what kind of glue it is, it wouldn't affect the much. However if it's inside the contacts than you're screwed.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: MrChad
I've seen the insides of many Dell systems and not one had memory modules glued in.

Me neither, which is why I'm inclined to call shens on this. Either that, or someone's kid has been messing around with a bottle of glue (maybe the kid broke off the latches and tried to cover it up).
 

Icopoli

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OP has been here for 4 years, I don't think he's about to post shens. I've never seen the inside of a newer Dell system so I can't comment.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Either this person from work is trying to screw you or someone is trying to screw him. Never, ever, will there be glue in or near a memory connection. If someone is trying to screw him well now you are in the uncomfortable position of being screwed. If he is trying to screw you than you are stuck (hehe love the pun). If you are trying to bash Dell with an interesting glue story than shame on you. Dell would quickly be sued into oblivion if they glued their memory modules in place.

Also, why in the world would Dell stop people from upgrading their memory with Dell memory from their website? I smell some BS working here. Not necessarily from you but ...
 

DaveSimmons

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The glue was put in by someone other than Dell.

Many, many people in Hot Deals (and dealsites like GottaDeal) buy stripped-down Dells and replace the memory without any problem. Many other people have Dells and upgrade the RAM at some point.

I've not seen a single post in General Hardware, Hot Deals or Off-Topic in 4 years here mentioning glued DIMMs, for any brand including Dell.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Either this person from work is trying to screw you or someone is trying to screw him. Never, ever, will there be glue in or near a memory connection. If someone is trying to screw him well now you are in the uncomfortable position of being screwed. If he is trying to screw you than you are stuck (hehe love the pun). If you are trying to bash Dell with an interesting glue story than shame on you. Dell would quickly be sued into oblivion if they glued their memory modules in place.

Also, why in the world would Dell stop people from upgrading their memory with Dell memory from their website? I smell some BS working here. Not necessarily from you but ...

Exactly. Also, in my experience, Dell actually tries to make it easy to remove the components. Why? Because time = money, and the time a Dell tech spends working on your system is time he can't spend working on someone else's. An easy to service system means less techs to hire for Dell. "Glueing" RAM modules in seems to go against that mantra.

Not sure if any of you have ever seen one of their awful "tool-less" cases. You don't need any screwdrivers to service any of it except the drives, which use a rail mounting system (I suspect that if you do need a drive serviced, the tech has them with the rails pre-installed so all he has to do is slide it in). The awful part of it is, if you want to add or remove things like PCI cards, you have to lift up the retaining arm which is the only thing keeping them in place. When you do this, you can be pretty much guaranteed that all the blank PCI brackets for the rear of the case will simultaneously fall out .
 

sirfergy

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Odds are the guy previously did something to his case since Dell wouldn't put glue in like that.
 

Silversierra

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What model dell is it BTW?

I can see dell doing that though, then the memory won't fall out in shipping, lol.
 

Markbnj

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I have bought something like 100+ Dell systems over the last seven years, for home and business. I have never, ever, seen a system with the memory glued in. Custom PSUs that you can't upgrade? Sure. Custom mobos, and cases, and fans? You bet. Glue? NFW. So I am with the guy that asked for pics.
 

linkgoron

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IF this is true and he gave you the computer working, you have to replace the RAM stick for free. BTW, :camera:.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: Silversierra
What model dell is it BTW?

I can see dell doing that though, then the memory won't fall out in shipping, lol.

If Dell hasn't had problems with those massive P4 heatsinks falling off during shipping and demolishing the mobo, I highly doubt they'd have issues with a little RAM stick falling off :roll:.
 

Pythias

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I think all parties involved should get the benefit of the doubt. I'm not going to assume that the OP is a liar. Nor am I going to assume that dell would do such a thing. I could very well be that the owner of said box, his children, his dog, or someone else fiddled with the case. Only problem I see with the first post is that the author of said post seemd to automatically assume that is was Dell's fault.
 

Vegito

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someone else worked on that system and glued it in... hell dell is so cheap when you have a problem with your pc, they want you to swap parts out first before sending someone out... so they DO want you to touch your dell crap
 
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