Exactly. I got nothin against americans, you guys are class, but its that attitude that p*sses people off. Acting as if WE havent done sh*t since 9/11.
Originally posted by: Atheus
What's that supposed to mean? "the yanks were right", You think you have won some sort of competition?
Yeah but I am aware that you have an overwhelming number of people in Britain that are equivalent to our sniveling left wing socialists here in the states that would cave in and give the terrorists everything they want. I'm just wondering what percentage of the British population, now that their homeland was attacked, still thinks the Islamofacists are nice people and how many of them see the truth now.
Youth...such a waste when they wallow in ignorance, eh?Originally posted by: Atheus
I will contain my anger at this post (especially "sniveling left wing socialists"). Suffice to say that of all the possible reactions from the british, "cave in and give the terrorists everything they want." is the LEAST likely. Read a book.Yeah but I am aware that you have an overwhelming number of people in Britain that are equivalent to our sniveling left wing socialists here in the states that would cave in and give the terrorists everything they want. I'm just wondering what percentage of the British population, now that their homeland was attacked, still thinks the Islamofacists are nice people and how many of them see the truth now.
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Atheus
exdeath: Stop stirring things up. I have only been on these forums a few days and i have seen nothing but racism and hate from you. We don't need any more hate.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Please...
What does race and hate have to do with the post you replied to?
'Islam rears it's peaceful head again.'
Well you seem to hate islam, and believe it's a violent religion, which it isn't. The people who attacked us have already been condemned by british muslim organizations.
"Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
What's that supposed to mean? "the yanks were right", You think you have won some sort of competition? And who are the "fvck sticks"? some specific place in the middle east or will anywhere do?
?Islam rears it's peaceful head again?
Well I generally dislike any form of religion and believe religion has no place in the 21st century. But I will pretend to tolerate and respect religions that don't wish to harm people that pray to a different invisible man than they do.
I will admit to the fallacy of this statement if you can dig up stats for me that show more beheadings, suicide attacks, bombings, etc. by Christians, Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, etc. than Muslims in the last decade or more. Some of those religions are just as big as Islam, yet the numbers of attacks carried out by them are nowhere near what they are amongst active participants of Islam. I realize not all Muslims bomb people, but every bomber so far always seems to be Muslim, and I am not going to ignore that fact for the sake of political correctness.
Islam by the way is a religion, not a race. And to say it's just blind hatred is the opposite of the truth. While I may be skeptical of Islam, when I see a muslim woman walking alone in the street in my own American city, the genuine fear I have for that woman's life (due to backlash, etc) convinces me that it's not hate or racism that I'm feeling.
"the yanks were right"
Please excuse my poor attempt at British slang.
I wasn't aware that I was trying to win any competition. There has been a lot of anti-American anti-war sentiment in Britain brewing lately, and I am simply curious if Britain will stay its course and stick with the Americans on destroying this threat (ie: more Britains convinced that this 'war' is serious and not an American fabrication) or submit like Spain and Italy have. The fact that Blair has been under alot of political pressure due to the Iraq war highlights the validity of my concern; similar to the anti Bush crowd in America.
This is merely a concern of mine, judging by the trends in Europe lately. I sincerely hope these events make us stronger allies than ever before.
"fvck sticks"
Generally referring to the "bad guys", and in this case, preliminary data indicates that it is indeed once again Islamic in origin.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: exdeath
Islam rears it's peaceful head again.
So what is the general reaction in Britain right now?
a) "Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
b) "Oh, we deserved it for agreeing the imperialist Americans"
I sure hope it's "a"
I sure hope it's "b".
So why are you still living here? Shouldn't you be in a cave somewhere fabricating suicide belts?
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
we need to bomb someone for this.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Atheus
exdeath: Stop stirring things up. I have only been on these forums a few days and i have seen nothing but racism and hate from you. We don't need any more hate.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Please...
What does race and hate have to do with the post you replied to?
'Islam rears it's peaceful head again.'
Well you seem to hate islam, and believe it's a violent religion, which it isn't. The people who attacked us have already been condemned by british muslim organizations.
"Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
What's that supposed to mean? "the yanks were right", You think you have won some sort of competition? And who are the "fvck sticks"? some specific place in the middle east or will anywhere do?
?Islam rears it's peaceful head again?
Well I generally dislike any form of religion and believe religion has no place in the 21st century. But I will pretend to tolerate and respect religions that don't wish to harm people that pray to a different invisible man than they do.
I will admit to the fallacy of this statement if you can dig up stats for me that show more beheadings, suicide attacks, bombings, etc. by Christians, Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, etc. than Muslims in the last decade or more. Maybe not all Muslims bomb people, but every bomber so far always seems to be Muslim.
Islam by the way is a religion, not a race.
"the yanks were right"
Please excuse my poor attempt at British slang.
I wasn't aware that I was trying to win any competition. There has been a lot of anti-American anti-war sentiment in Britain brewing lately, and I am simply curious if Britain will stay its course and stick with the Americans on destroying this threat (ie: more Britains convinced that this 'war' is serious and not an American fabrication) or submit like Spain and Italy have.
"fvck sticks"
Generally referring to the "bad guys", and in this case, preliminary data indicates that it is indeed once again Islamic in origin.
Well now thats a surprise, it looks like we actually agree on some things. I too don't see a place for (organised) religion in today's world, but that view is influenced as much by things like priests who rape little boys as suicide bombings.
?Islam rears it's peaceful head again?
"I will admit to the fallacy of this statement if you can dig up stats for me that show more beheadings, suicide attacks, bombings, etc. by Christians, Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, etc. than Muslims in the last decade or more."
life is not shaped entirely by the history of the last decade. If you go back 100 years you will find atrocities committed by the nazis and the kkk were all in the name of christianity. Go back even further to the crusades and you'll see the christian army killing civilians and the muslims sparing them (for the most part).
"Islam by the way is a religion, not a race."
fair point, but you get what i mean.
"I am simply curious if Britain will stay its course and stick with the Americans on destroying this threat"
I think you can be sure of that. Just don't expect we will always want to use the same methods as you.
Originally posted by: deepinya
I say we turn the middle east into a glass parking lot....whos with me?!?!?
Originally posted by: deepinya
I say we turn the middle east into a glass parking lot....whos with me?!?!?
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Atheus
exdeath: Stop stirring things up. I have only been on these forums a few days and i have seen nothing but racism and hate from you. We don't need any more hate.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Please...
What does race and hate have to do with the post you replied to?
'Islam rears it's peaceful head again.'
Well you seem to hate islam, and believe it's a violent religion, which it isn't. The people who attacked us have already been condemned by british muslim organizations.
"Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
What's that supposed to mean? "the yanks were right", You think you have won some sort of competition? And who are the "fvck sticks"? some specific place in the middle east or will anywhere do?
?Islam rears it's peaceful head again?
Well I generally dislike any form of religion and believe religion has no place in the 21st century. But I will pretend to tolerate and respect religions that don't wish to harm people that pray to a different invisible man than they do.
I will admit to the fallacy of this statement if you can dig up stats for me that show more beheadings, suicide attacks, bombings, etc. by Christians, Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, etc. than Muslims in the last decade or more. Maybe not all Muslims bomb people, but every bomber so far always seems to be Muslim.
Islam by the way is a religion, not a race.
"the yanks were right"
Please excuse my poor attempt at British slang.
I wasn't aware that I was trying to win any competition. There has been a lot of anti-American anti-war sentiment in Britain brewing lately, and I am simply curious if Britain will stay its course and stick with the Americans on destroying this threat (ie: more Britains convinced that this 'war' is serious and not an American fabrication) or submit like Spain and Italy have.
"fvck sticks"
Generally referring to the "bad guys", and in this case, preliminary data indicates that it is indeed once again Islamic in origin.
Well now thats a surprise, it looks like we actually agree on some things. I too don't see a place for (organised) religion in today's world, but that view is influenced as much by things like priests who rape little boys as suicide bombings.
?Islam rears it's peaceful head again?
"I will admit to the fallacy of this statement if you can dig up stats for me that show more beheadings, suicide attacks, bombings, etc. by Christians, Buddhists, Catholics, Hindus, etc. than Muslims in the last decade or more."
life is not shaped entirely by the history of the last decade. If you go back 100 years you will find atrocities committed by the nazis and the kkk were all in the name of christianity. Go back even further to the crusades and you'll see the christian army killing civilians and the muslims sparing them (for the most part).
"Islam by the way is a religion, not a race."
fair point, but you get what i mean.
"I am simply curious if Britain will stay its course and stick with the Americans on destroying this threat"
I think you can be sure of that. Just don't expect we will always want to use the same methods as you.
Muslim started Jihad against Christians and Jews centurys before the 1st Crusade. Look it up.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Islam rears it's peaceful head again.
So what is the general reaction in Britain right now?
a) "Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
b) "Oh, we deserved it for agreeing with and helping the imperialist Americans"
I sure hope it's "a"
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: exdeath
Islam rears it's peaceful head again.
So what is the general reaction in Britain right now?
a) "Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
b) "Oh, we deserved it for agreeing with and helping the imperialist Americans"
I sure hope it's "a"
Actually right now it's more like;
c) Oh well sh!t happens, life goes on, let's get really drunk and continue to enjoy life.
Seriously, no-one here really gives a toss, we'll probably take it easy and have tea and scones for a couple of weeks preparing a few letters to Al Queada telling them to fvck off and leave our country alone.
The underground will be back in service and everything will be back to normal first thing tomorrow
Originally posted by: StormRider
My sympathies to all the people in Britain. I remember how you stood besides us during 9/11 and your kindness and compassion gave me great comfort. May my words do the same. You are the truest of friends. I stand beside you -- always.
Originally posted by: conjur
I just bolded the key part of your response.Originally posted by: EKKC
im sure.Originally posted by: conjur
Settle down, Beavis. They're just catching up on what the Catholic Church did centuries ago.
But, in a way, you're agreeing with me but not far enough. They don't represent Islam anymore than Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.
none of the radical groups represents everyone who share their beliefs.
do all pro-lifers want to bomb abortion clinics? no
do all environmentalists condone teh radicals' actions? no
BUT, and here's the big but, the amount of extremist islamists is growing in number with the stupid Iraq war, and that these people ARE WILLING TO DIE for their beliefs make them ultra dangerous. and everything they do just makes everyone in the world sick to their stomach. you kill one, there's 100 of them afterwards, and all 100 of them can take their own lives just to cause more civilian deaths. and that is what separates these sick fvcks than your normal extremist groups
The answer to fighting these bastards is not more bombs and bullets. We *must* involve the Middle East's leaders into rooting out terrorists within their own countires. And we should start with Saudi Arabia, the Bush/Saudi business dealings be damned!
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: exdeath
Islam rears it's peaceful head again.
So what is the general reaction in Britain right now?
a) "Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
b) "Oh, we deserved it for agreeing with and helping the imperialist Americans"
I sure hope it's "a"
Actually right now it's more like;
c) Oh well sh!t happens, life goes on, let's get really drunk and continue to enjoy life.
Seriously, no-one here really gives a toss, we'll probably take it easy and have tea and scones for a couple of weeks preparing a few letters to Al Queada telling them to fvck off and leave our country alone.
The underground will be back in service and everything will be back to normal first thing tomorrow
bull$hit!
Here you goOriginally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: conjur
I just bolded the key part of your response.Originally posted by: EKKC
im sure.Originally posted by: conjur
Settle down, Beavis. They're just catching up on what the Catholic Church did centuries ago.
But, in a way, you're agreeing with me but not far enough. They don't represent Islam anymore than Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.
none of the radical groups represents everyone who share their beliefs.
do all pro-lifers want to bomb abortion clinics? no
do all environmentalists condone teh radicals' actions? no
BUT, and here's the big but, the amount of extremist islamists is growing in number with the stupid Iraq war, and that these people ARE WILLING TO DIE for their beliefs make them ultra dangerous. and everything they do just makes everyone in the world sick to their stomach. you kill one, there's 100 of them afterwards, and all 100 of them can take their own lives just to cause more civilian deaths. and that is what separates these sick fvcks than your normal extremist groups
The answer to fighting these bastards is not more bombs and bullets. We *must* involve the Middle East's leaders into rooting out terrorists within their own countires. And we should start with Saudi Arabia, the Bush/Saudi business dealings be damned!
Take your obfuscation, lies, and BS to P&N. It's not needed or welcome in OT.
Here's the latest from the BBC:Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
ok so what is the count right now? i hate the bullsh1t that this thread turned into, but what is the total tally?
i heard 40 killed/700 injured. but what else do we have?
A series of bomb attacks on London's transport network has killed more than 30 people and injured about 700 others.
Three explosions on the Underground left 35 dead, two died in a blast on a bus and another died later in hospital.
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the bombings had "the hallmarks of an al-Qaeda-related attack".
Prime Minister Tony Blair promised the "most intense police and security service action to make sure we bring those responsible to justice".
Mr Blair, who had returned to London from the G8 summit in Gleneagles, condemned the terrorists and paid tribute to the stoicism and resilience of the people of London.
"They are trying to use the slaughter of innocent people to cow us, to frighten us out of doing the things that we want to do," he said in a televised statement from Downing Street.
Map of where the blasts happened
They "should not and they must not succeed," he said.
"We know that these people act in the name of Islam but we also know that the vast and overwhelming majority of Muslims here and abroad are decent and law-abiding people who abhor those who do this every bit as much as we do," he added.
The Queen, who will visit some of those involved in the tragedy on Friday, said she was "deeply shocked" and sent her sympathy to those affected. The union jack flag was flying at half mast over Buckingham Palace.
Further details of the Queen's visit will be announced on Friday morning.
[...]
Hundreds of thousands of commuters faced difficult journeys home from London on Thursday night after a day of travel chaos.
Many opted to walk while some booked into hotels.
By late afternoon, major routes out of London, including the M25 and M4, were jammed and motorists have been urged not to drive into the centre as many roads are shut.
All London Underground services have been suspended until at least Friday.
Bus services have resumed in central London (Zone One) with diversions in affected areas. Most mainline train stations are open.
Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick confirmed 35 people had died in the blasts on the Underground.
He said there were 21 confirmed fatalities following the blast at 0856 BST on a Piccadilly Line train in a tunnel between King's Cross and Russell Square.
There were seven confirmed deaths after a blast at 0851 BST 100 yards into a tunnel from Liverpool Street station. The train involved was a Circle Line train.
And at 0917 BST an explosion on another Circle Line train coming into Edgware Road underground station blew a hole through a wall onto another train at an adjoining platform.
Three trains were thought to be involved and there were seven confirmed deaths so far, Mr Paddick said.
He said two had died in the bus blast at 0947 at the junction of Upper Woburn Place and Tavistock Square.
There were also 700 people injured, Mr Paddick said.
London Ambulance Service said it had treated 45 patients with serious or critical injuries including burns, amputations, chest and blast injuries and fractured limbs.