Heheh... you could start with all those crazy radical Imams who were rallying in support of terror outside the US embassy a few months ago... I nearly vomitted after seeing that... it was sickening.
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
How the fvck-a-doodle-doo do you know?
You're in Glasgow, you're in Scotland ffs, you're 500 miles away, you haven't seen everyones attitude down here in London, including my own.
Everyone's in physical shock but no-one is really that surprised, we've been expecting it for years and we have tons of experience dealing with bombings thanks to the IRA.
90% of the London Underground has been announced to be running normal services again first thing in the morning, we *REALLY* don't care, we lost a few people and a few people got hurt, it's happened before and it'll most likely happen again in the future, the less time we spend fvcking around and the more time we spend getting on with our lives the better.
Everyone here knows that and that's why everyone here is doing just that, most of us have been down the pub tonight watching the news to find more information on who-dun'it so we can seek revenge :evil:
I went to bed at page 2 and am reading through the thread now..Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it will work. Extra security at places like that would minimize, at the least, any damage done as they wouldn't be able to board trains, planes, ships, etc.Originally posted by: Amused
Oh yeah. THAT'S gonna work! :roll:Originally posted by: conjur
What is clear, though, is that the fvcking BS rhetoric from this admin that "America and the world are safer" is now completely and utterly without basis. Attacks like this will continue no matter what countries are invaded and no matter what sanctions are imposed upon others. There will always be a fringe element seeking to cause death and destruction.
Better security at home at ports, chemical plants, transportation hubs, trucking industry, etc. is what we need, not more bombs and bullets.
Crime? Screw going after the criminals! Hide in your homes and barricade your doors!
Bees stinging you when you walk outside your door? Screw finding the hives and destroying them, better to wear a bee suit every time you leave your house!
Your answer to terrorism warms the hearts of terrorists all over the world, Conjur. You're exactly the kind of pussy they hope all westerners are.
Your plan is exactly what they want us to do: Run away with our tails between our legs and hide.
What's Blair going to do now? Bomb Iraq again? Invading Iraq has created MORE terrorism in the world.
Get a fvcking clue.
I have a fscking clue, Conjur. You, unfortunately, do not.
We are in the Middle East because that's where the terrorists are.
You don't fight the bees where they're stinging you, you go to the nest and kill them. You don't hide in your home from criminals, you hunt them down and jail them.
You don't hide in your country from terrorists, you go where they originate (or as close as you can get) and deal with them there. Iraq and Afghanistan were the only two ME countries we could legally invade and remove terrorist friendly regimes.
Doing so did stir up the bees, but MOST of the attacks have been THERE. It will be messy before it's better. But in the long run it beats hiding at home and becoming their bitches like you would have us do. Slowly but surely we will democratize the ME and negate religious fanaticism in the region. (Just as we did fascism in Europe) To fail to do so now would only make it far worse in the long run.
Cliffs: Grow some balls.
Originally posted by: Eli
I went to bed at page 2 and am reading through the thread now..Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it will work. Extra security at places like that would minimize, at the least, any damage done as they wouldn't be able to board trains, planes, ships, etc.Originally posted by: Amused
Oh yeah. THAT'S gonna work! :roll:Originally posted by: conjur
What is clear, though, is that the fvcking BS rhetoric from this admin that "America and the world are safer" is now completely and utterly without basis. Attacks like this will continue no matter what countries are invaded and no matter what sanctions are imposed upon others. There will always be a fringe element seeking to cause death and destruction.
Better security at home at ports, chemical plants, transportation hubs, trucking industry, etc. is what we need, not more bombs and bullets.
Crime? Screw going after the criminals! Hide in your homes and barricade your doors!
Bees stinging you when you walk outside your door? Screw finding the hives and destroying them, better to wear a bee suit every time you leave your house!
Your answer to terrorism warms the hearts of terrorists all over the world, Conjur. You're exactly the kind of pussy they hope all westerners are.
Your plan is exactly what they want us to do: Run away with our tails between our legs and hide.
What's Blair going to do now? Bomb Iraq again? Invading Iraq has created MORE terrorism in the world.
Get a fvcking clue.
I have a fscking clue, Conjur. You, unfortunately, do not.
We are in the Middle East because that's where the terrorists are.
You don't fight the bees where they're stinging you, you go to the nest and kill them. You don't hide in your home from criminals, you hunt them down and jail them.
You don't hide in your country from terrorists, you go where they originate (or as close as you can get) and deal with them there. Iraq and Afghanistan were the only two ME countries we could legally invade and remove terrorist friendly regimes.
Doing so did stir up the bees, but MOST of the attacks have been THERE. It will be messy before it's better. But in the long run it beats hiding at home and becoming their bitches like you would have us do. Slowly but surely we will democratize the ME and negate religious fanaticism in the region. (Just as we did fascism in Europe) To fail to do so now would only make it far worse in the long run.
Cliffs: Grow some balls.
I am curious about the bolded though. I don't really get it. Was it really "legal"? I mean... Would it really be "illegal" for us to invade.. some country other than Iraq or Afghanistan?..
By who's laws is it legal or illegal? Ours? If so, isn't that kinda....not how it's supposed to work?.. Where is the check and balance in that?
Or is it per the United Nations' laws? That would be better.
If it is really a case of whether it is legal or not, why wasn't there some huge long drawn out OJ/Michael Jackson-esque court case or something?
Sorry to be so off topic, just trying to figure out Amused's point of view. I guess I value his opinion.
More good leads for the investigators.Jul. 7, 2005 - In what appears to be the first major break in the London terrorist attacks, U.S. authorities tell ABC News that police in London have recovered key parts of the timing devices that set off the bombs, suggesting they were planted in packages or bags and left behind.
There also are reports that police may have discovered two unexploded bombs as they sifted through the wreckage of the four bombs that did go off. At least several dozen people were killed in the attacks, and hundreds of others were injured while traveling on subways and a double-decker bus. Scotland Yard has denied finding undetonated explosive devices in the wreckage.
The bomb parts and timing mechanisms should provide important evidence that could help determine who was behind the attacks, sources told ABC News.
Officials now believe that all the bombs were detonated by timing devices. Earlier today, British investigators had believed that the bomb on the bus was the work of a suicide bomber, sources said.
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...there wasn't damage to the tracks?
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Atheus
exdeath: Stop stirring things up. I have only been on these forums a few days and i have seen nothing but racism and hate from you. We don't need any more hate.
Originally posted by: exdeath
Please...
What does race and hate have to do with the post you replied to?
'Islam rears it's peaceful head again.'
Well you seem to hate islam, and believe it's a violent religion, which it isn't. The people who attacked us have already been condemned by british muslim organizations.
"Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
What's that supposed to mean? "the yanks were right", You think you have won some sort of competition? And who are the "fvck sticks"? some specific place in the middle east or will anywhere do?
hah, its more like a small condemnation of the attacks and then a justification for it and their shared sympathies for their cause blah blah. apologist nonsense. if it were really a peaceful religion as they say, they would fight the tumor blighting their religion with everything they had. they would marginalize all the hateful imams, so called"islamic" countries would deligitimize all who preached nonsense, take away their mosques, their religious schools. there would be boycotts of media with religious hate. but thats not gonna happen. the support is too wide and too deep. the denial of resonsibility for their religion is just wthe way it is now. and it either says they aren't being straight with us either way you want to take it.
sure you can say theres 1 billion peaceful muslims. but you can also say thats a whole lot of people that should be cleaning house. should be simple considering how "few" these supposedly fringe muslims are.
And if Christianity really wasn't the religion of molesting small children then they'd execute all the priests accused of child molestation.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
hah, its more like a small condemnation of the attacks and then a justification for it and their shared sympathies for their cause blah blah. apologist nonsense. if it were really a peaceful religion as they say, they would fight the tumor blighting their religion with everything they had. they would marginalize all the hateful imams, so called"islamic" countries would deligitimize all who preached nonsense, take away their mosques, their religious schools. there would be boycotts of media with religious hate. but thats not gonna happen. the support is too wide and too deep.
Originally posted by: yukichigai
And if Christianity really wasn't the religion of molesting small children then they'd execute all the priests accused of child molestation.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
hah, its more like a small condemnation of the attacks and then a justification for it and their shared sympathies for their cause blah blah. apologist nonsense. if it were really a peaceful religion as they say, they would fight the tumor blighting their religion with everything they had. they would marginalize all the hateful imams, so called"islamic" countries would deligitimize all who preached nonsense, take away their mosques, their religious schools. there would be boycotts of media with religious hate. but thats not gonna happen. the support is too wide and too deep.
F%$#ing Christ man, get your head out of your nether regions. The religion is peaceful; many of the followers are not. Extremist loons like the terrorists and terrorist-sympathetic nations aren't representative of the entire religion.
Originally posted by: biostud
I guess the shock is not as great as the 9/11.
1st wasn't as big, 2nd most thought it was just a matter of time, 3rd IRA has done similar things, 4th Britain has been attacked on their own soil before unlike US.
Re-read your history books.Originally posted by: biostud
I guess the shock is not as great as the 9/11.
1st wasn't as big, 2nd most thought it was just a matter of time, 3rd IRA has done similar things, 4th Britain has been attacked on their own soil before unlike US.
Originally posted by: Eli
I am curious about the bolded though. I don't really get it. Was it really "legal"? I mean... Would it really be "illegal" for us to invade.. some country other than Iraq or Afghanistan?..
By who's laws is it legal or illegal? Ours? If so, isn't that kinda....not how it's supposed to work?.. Where is the check and balance in that?
Or is it per the United Nations' laws? That would be better.
If it is really a case of whether it is legal or not, why wasn't there some huge long drawn out OJ/Michael Jackson-esque court case or something?
Sorry to be so off topic, just trying to figure out Amused's point of view. I guess I value his opinion.
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: biostud
I guess the shock is not as great as the 9/11.
1st wasn't as big, 2nd most thought it was just a matter of time, 3rd IRA has done similar things, 4th Britain has been attacked on their own soil before unlike US.
Point 3 & 4 are the reason this tactic will always fail. We've been here before and we have lived with it before. Londoners and British people in general are very resillient when it comes to this type of thing.
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: exdeath
Islam rears it's peaceful head again.
So what is the general reaction in Britain right now?
a) "Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
b) "Oh, we deserved it for agreeing with and helping the imperialist Americans"
I sure hope it's "a"
Actually right now it's more like;
c) Oh well sh!t happens, life goes on, let's get really drunk and continue to enjoy life.
Seriously, no-one here really gives a toss, we'll probably take it easy and have tea and scones for a couple of weeks preparing a few letters to Al Queada telling them to fvck off and leave our country alone.
The underground will be back in service and everything will be back to normal first thing tomorrow
bull$hit!
How the fvck-a-doodle-doo do you know?
You're in Glasgow, you're in Scotland ffs, you're 500 miles away, you haven't seen everyones attitude down here in London, including my own.
Everyone's in physical shock but no-one is really that surprised, we've been expecting it for years and we have tons of experience dealing with bombings thanks to the IRA.
90% of the London Underground has been announced to be running normal services again first thing in the morning, we *REALLY* don't care, we lost a few people and a few people got hurt, it's happened before and it'll most likely happen again in the future, the less time we spend fvcking around and the more time we spend getting on with our lives the better.
Everyone here knows that and that's why everyone here is doing just that, most of us have been down the pub tonight watching the news to find more information on who-dun'it so we can seek revenge :evil:
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: exdeath
Islam rears it's peaceful head again.
So what is the general reaction in Britain right now?
a) "Damn the yanks were right, lets waste these fvck sticks."
b) "Oh, we deserved it for agreeing with and helping the imperialist Americans"
I sure hope it's "a"
Actually right now it's more like;
c) Oh well sh!t happens, life goes on, let's get really drunk and continue to enjoy life.
Seriously, no-one here really gives a toss, we'll probably take it easy and have tea and scones for a couple of weeks preparing a few letters to Al Queada telling them to fvck off and leave our country alone.
The underground will be back in service and everything will be back to normal first thing tomorrow
bull$hit!
How the fvck-a-doodle-doo do you know?
You're in Glasgow, you're in Scotland ffs, you're 500 miles away, you haven't seen everyones attitude down here in London, including my own.
Everyone's in physical shock but no-one is really that surprised, we've been expecting it for years and we have tons of experience dealing with bombings thanks to the IRA.
90% of the London Underground has been announced to be running normal services again first thing in the morning, we *REALLY* don't care, we lost a few people and a few people got hurt, it's happened before and it'll most likely happen again in the future, the less time we spend fvcking around and the more time we spend getting on with our lives the better.
Everyone here knows that and that's why everyone here is doing just that, most of us have been down the pub tonight watching the news to find more information on who-dun'it so we can seek revenge :evil:
I know cuz my m8 was in London at the time, i also know people who live there. They think lets bomb the middle east the same as i do :frown:
You "*REALLY*" dont care!? WTF?! Somone bombed your country, YOUR city! and you dont care.... Goddamn thats a pathetic frickin attitude. "we lost a few people" You wouldnt be thinking that if somone you knew died in that you selfish b**tard!. If tony was ANYTHING like you then this country would be fvcked, luckily he aint and hes gonna want to go kill some terrorist like the rest of us people who DO give a toss when we get bombed :frown: