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lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Burying his house to make it more thermal efficient.

Strangely enough, that was the first thing I thought :^D
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: BHeemsoth
Originally posted by: boomhower
I am going to go with leveling the back yard. But as others have said call the zoning board and they will either tell you whats going on or start asking some questions from your neighbor.

You're probably right on what the dirt is for, but god man...don't go calling the zoning board.

why not? if he's breaking the law, it's a good thing. If he isn't, then no problem.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: BHeemsoth
Originally posted by: boomhower
I am going to go with leveling the back yard. But as others have said call the zoning board and they will either tell you whats going on or start asking some questions from your neighbor.

You're probably right on what the dirt is for, but god man...don't go calling the zoning board.

why not? if he's breaking the law, it's a good thing. If he isn't, then no problem.

Getting zoning on him is a dick move. People don't need anymore government on their asses than they already have. He could be breaking a law that really doesn't matter much, but would cause him a bunch of hassle if the wrong person found out.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
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Last year he cleared a shitload of trees. Nothing weird about that, the yard looked nice. This year, though... wtf is all this shit?

Interestingly, to the right of that pile of dirt is a creek (and a large gully). It's all protected wetlands stuff, which makes me wonder if he even has a permit for all of this. Not that I give a shit about the rare slugs or whatevers down there, but it'd give me an excuse to get him to stop building... whatever it is.

The bolded part alone is enough to make me call the city/county permit/building department to see what's up.

Fuck a bunch of "Mind your own business," when it concerns such things as encroachment into wetlands and streams.

While it's his property and as far as I'm concerned, he has the right to build whatever he wants on it, he also has the responsibility to do it right.


Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Also, oddly enough, I'm pretty sure the dirt pile is sitting on his neighbors land too. And the OTHER neighbor, to the left of the pic, has been full of people lately... I don't know wtf is going on, because it used to be just an old retired guy who lived there. Now, though, their backyard is starting to look like a gypsy camp in the evenings.

It's hard to say what this is all about. Maybe the property is being developed jointly by two parties. Still worth making the call to the appropriate city/county departments to find out.

If you get him shut down...stand up on your hill and yell at him:

"And Stay the Fuck Off my Lawn too!"
 

nerp

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: BHeemsoth
Originally posted by: boomhower
I am going to go with leveling the back yard. But as others have said call the zoning board and they will either tell you whats going on or start asking some questions from your neighbor.

You're probably right on what the dirt is for, but god man...don't go calling the zoning board.

why not? if he's breaking the law, it's a good thing. If he isn't, then no problem.

Getting zoning on him is a dick move. People don't need anymore government on their asses than they already have. He could be breaking a law that really doesn't matter much, but would cause him a bunch of hassle if the wrong person found out.

FIlling in wetlands illegally or doing unapproved modifications to your property is a dick move and is disrespectful to all the other residents who follow the rules and get permits to do work on their property.

What if he wanted to raise dogs and packs in 100 barking animals? What if he wants to store chicken manure, dumping massive quantities of nitrogen into the ground, polluting nearby wells?

Just because you have a property line doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with your property. This isn't the wild west.
 

TruePaige

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2006
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He is building an underground bunker.

Let him be.

When the zombies come what side do YOU want to be on?
 

Exterous

Super Moderator
Jun 20, 2006
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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Whatever you do, don't ask him.

LOL EXACTLY. I mean it seems more logical to ask random people on the internet.

From the responses we can logically assume he is building a flat yard to put a wall on while excavating a zombie protecting bunker - making sure to leave enough room to bury indians/hookers/fat hookers/wife in.

Actually, I don't think there is enough dirt there for all that......
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: nerp

FIlling in wetlands illegally or doing unapproved modifications to your property is a dick move and is disrespectful to all the other residents who follow the rules and get permits to do work on their property.

What if he wanted to raise dogs and packs in 100 barking animals? What if he wants to store chicken manure, dumping massive quantities of nitrogen into the ground, polluting nearby wells?

Just because you have a property line doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with your property. This isn't the wild west.

Filling in wetlands? The wetlands aren't on his property according to the OP. There's no evidence of dogs, chickens, zombies, or anything else, it's a pile of dirt. Fuck the government and their permits. It's just a money making racket to fleece the population. If somebody can get around that, then I'm happy for them.

 

TruePaige

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Oct 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Whatever you do, don't ask him.

LOL EXACTLY. I mean it seems more logical to ask random people on the internet.

From the responses we can logically assume he is building a flat yard to put a wall on while excavating a zombie protecting bunker - making sure to leave enough room to bury indians/hookers/fat hookers/wife in.

Actually, I don't think there is enough dirt there for all that......

Maybe...just...hear me out.

He might be hiding dirt UNDER the giant pile of dirt, so that he has dirt for all these projects!
 

Chryso

Diamond Member
Nov 23, 2004
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Considering how people on this board feel about home owner associations there sure are a lot of you who want to get the zoning board in this guys business.
 

nerp

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: nerp

FIlling in wetlands illegally or doing unapproved modifications to your property is a dick move and is disrespectful to all the other residents who follow the rules and get permits to do work on their property.

What if he wanted to raise dogs and packs in 100 barking animals? What if he wants to store chicken manure, dumping massive quantities of nitrogen into the ground, polluting nearby wells?

Just because you have a property line doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with your property. This isn't the wild west.

Filling in wetlands? The wetlands aren't on his property according to the OP. There's no evidence of dogs, chickens, zombies, or anything else, it's a pile of dirt. Fuck the government and their permits. It's just a money making racket to fleece the population. If somebody can get around that, then I'm happy for them.

You're clueless. The fact that he might fill in wetlands that don't even exist on his property is even more offensive.

You should learn what role wetlands play in the ecosystem. Then you might stand a chance of grasping why the "evil mean government bad guys" are so adamant about regulating them. Unless, of course, you'd rather put your head in the sand and then complain when your tap water is saline or your water bill increases dramatically.

Do you know how much revenue the town makes from permits? You might want to look at that figure and take a look at the municipal budget before pulling ideas out your butt.

You remind me of a lot of people that think they should be able to do whatever they want with their property, but when some new neighbor moves in and starts doing things on their property to destroy your quality of life, lower your poperty value, spread debris, smoke, garbage and noise into your space you go screaming into Town Hall demanding action.

If you want an idea of what a community looks like without zoning regulations, there are plenty of places for you to explore. I suggest doing that. Then you might actually develop some sort of clue as to why there are zoning laws.

 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: nerp

FIlling in wetlands illegally or doing unapproved modifications to your property is a dick move and is disrespectful to all the other residents who follow the rules and get permits to do work on their property.

What if he wanted to raise dogs and packs in 100 barking animals? What if he wants to store chicken manure, dumping massive quantities of nitrogen into the ground, polluting nearby wells?

Just because you have a property line doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with your property. This isn't the wild west.

Filling in wetlands? The wetlands aren't on his property according to the OP. There's no evidence of dogs, chickens, zombies, or anything else, it's a pile of dirt. Fuck the government and their permits. It's just a money making racket to fleece the population. If somebody can get around that, then I'm happy for them.

You're clueless. The fact that he might fill in wetlands that don't even exist on his property is even more offensive.

You should learn what role wetlands play in the ecosystem. Then you might stand a chance of grasping why the "evil mean government bad guys" are so adamant about regulating them. Unless, of course, you'd rather put your head in the sand and then complain when your tap water is saline or your water bill increases dramatically.

Do you know how much revenue the town makes from permits? You might want to look at that figure and take a look at the municipal budget before pulling ideas out your butt.

You remind me of a lot of people that think they should be able to do whatever they want with their property, but when some new neighbor moves in and starts doing things on their property to destroy your quality of life, lower your poperty value, spread debris, smoke, garbage and noise into your space you go screaming into Town Hall demanding action.

If you want an idea of what a community looks like without zoning regulations, there are plenty of places for you to explore. I suggest doing that. Then you might actually develop some sort of clue as to why there are zoning laws.

No, you're clueless. I'm actually in the business of wetland mitigation, and know how it works ;^)
 

nerp

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: nerp

FIlling in wetlands illegally or doing unapproved modifications to your property is a dick move and is disrespectful to all the other residents who follow the rules and get permits to do work on their property.

What if he wanted to raise dogs and packs in 100 barking animals? What if he wants to store chicken manure, dumping massive quantities of nitrogen into the ground, polluting nearby wells?

Just because you have a property line doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with your property. This isn't the wild west.

Filling in wetlands? The wetlands aren't on his property according to the OP. There's no evidence of dogs, chickens, zombies, or anything else, it's a pile of dirt. Fuck the government and their permits. It's just a money making racket to fleece the population. If somebody can get around that, then I'm happy for them.

You're clueless. The fact that he might fill in wetlands that don't even exist on his property is even more offensive.

You should learn what role wetlands play in the ecosystem. Then you might stand a chance of grasping why the "evil mean government bad guys" are so adamant about regulating them. Unless, of course, you'd rather put your head in the sand and then complain when your tap water is saline or your water bill increases dramatically.

Do you know how much revenue the town makes from permits? You might want to look at that figure and take a look at the municipal budget before pulling ideas out your butt.

You remind me of a lot of people that think they should be able to do whatever they want with their property, but when some new neighbor moves in and starts doing things on their property to destroy your quality of life, lower your poperty value, spread debris, smoke, garbage and noise into your space you go screaming into Town Hall demanding action.

If you want an idea of what a community looks like without zoning regulations, there are plenty of places for you to explore. I suggest doing that. Then you might actually develop some sort of clue as to why there are zoning laws.

No, you're clueless. I'm actually in the business of wetland mitigation, and know how it works ;^)

If you're in the business of wetland mitigation I would hesitate to hire you if you suggested that filling in wetlands are no big deal.

And any professional in the your business who claims that "people should do whatever they want to do" and that filling in wetlands is OK suggests to me you've either seen a project denied and you're miffed about it or something to that extent. I understand that wetlands can be created to make up for the fact that some have been removed elsewhere, but this is far from an optimal solution and is only allowable when the percentage of disturbance is quite low. FYI, I've covered the development and evolution of wetland regulations here (both inland and coast) here and I'm quite familiar with the policies, regulations, the science behind it all and the impact on developers and the environment. The percentage of disturbance has to be quite low and the hardship element has to be proven and demonstrable. Wetland mitigation is a last resort and courts (at least here) have repeatedly upheld zoning denials when hardship has NOT been proven. Wanting a pool or wanting a level back yard does not consititute hardship.

So your one sentence declaring authority sounds great here and all, but until you can demonstrate how filling in wetlands illegally is good for the environment, you're full of shit.
 

Exterous

Super Moderator
Jun 20, 2006
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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Whatever you do, don't ask him.

LOL EXACTLY. I mean it seems more logical to ask random people on the internet.

From the responses we can logically assume he is building a flat yard to put a wall on while excavating a zombie protecting bunker - making sure to leave enough room to bury indians/hookers/fat hookers/wife in.

Actually, I don't think there is enough dirt there for all that......

Maybe...just...hear me out.

He might be hiding dirt UNDER the giant pile of dirt, so that he has dirt for all these projects!

If I squint real hard after hitting my head with a rubber mallet that makes perfect sense
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
57,985
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Originally posted by: nerp


If you're in the business of wetland mitigation I would hesitate to hire you if you suggested that filling in wetlands are no big deal.

And any professional in the your business who claims that "people should do whatever they want to do" and that filling in wetlands is OK suggests to me you've either seen a project denied and you're miffed about it or something to that extent. I understand that wetlands can be created to make up for the fact that some have been removed elsewhere, but this is far from an optimal solution and is only allowable when the percentage of disturbance is quite low. FYI, I've covered the development and evolution of wetland regulations here (both inland and coast) here and I'm quite familiar with the policies, regulations, the science behind it all and the impact on developers and the environment. The percentage of disturbance has to be quite low and the hardship element has to be proven and demonstrable. Wetland mitigation is a last resort and courts (at least here) have repeatedly upheld zoning denials when hardship has NOT been proven. Wanting a pool or wanting a level back yard does not consititute hardship.

So your one sentence declaring authority sounds great here and all, but until you can demonstrate how filling in wetlands illegally is good for the environment, you're full of shit.

Who in the hell said he was filling wetlands? He has a dirt pile, and nothing else. Using your logic, I should call the FBI on you for being a pedophilic rapist due to you having a penis.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: middlehead
What's he building in there?
What the hell is he building
In there?
He has subscriptions to those
Magazines... He never
Waves when he goes by
He's hiding something from
The rest of us... He's all
To himself... I think I know
Why... He took down the
Tire swing from the Peppertree
He has no children of his
Own you see... He has no dog
And he has no friends and
His lawn is dying... and
What about all those packages
He sends. What's he building in there?
With that hook light
On the stairs. What's he building
In there... I'll tell you one thing
He's not building a playhouse for
The children what's he building
In there?

Now what's that sound from under the door?
He's pounding nails into a
Hardwood floor... and I
Swear to god I heard someone
Moaning low... and I keep
Seeing the blue light of a
T.V. show...
He has a router
And a table saw... and you
Won't believe what Mr. Sticha saw
There's poison underneath the sink
Of course... But there's also
Enough formaldehyde to choke
A horse... What's he building
In there. What the hell is he
Building in there? I heard he
Has an ex-wife in some place
Called Mayors Income, Tennessee
And he used to have a
consulting business in Indonesia...
but what is he building in there?
What the hell is building in there?

He has no friends
But he gets a lot of mail
I'll bet he spent a little
Time in jail...
I heard he was up on the
Roof last night
Signaling with a flashlight
And what's that tune he's
Always whistling...
What's he building in there?
What's he building in there?

We have a right to know...

go go gadget Tom Waits!
 

nerp

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: nerp


If you're in the business of wetland mitigation I would hesitate to hire you if you suggested that filling in wetlands are no big deal.

And any professional in the your business who claims that "people should do whatever they want to do" and that filling in wetlands is OK suggests to me you've either seen a project denied and you're miffed about it or something to that extent. I understand that wetlands can be created to make up for the fact that some have been removed elsewhere, but this is far from an optimal solution and is only allowable when the percentage of disturbance is quite low. FYI, I've covered the development and evolution of wetland regulations here (both inland and coast) here and I'm quite familiar with the policies, regulations, the science behind it all and the impact on developers and the environment. The percentage of disturbance has to be quite low and the hardship element has to be proven and demonstrable. Wetland mitigation is a last resort and courts (at least here) have repeatedly upheld zoning denials when hardship has NOT been proven. Wanting a pool or wanting a level back yard does not consititute hardship.

So your one sentence declaring authority sounds great here and all, but until you can demonstrate how filling in wetlands illegally is good for the environment, you're full of shit.

Who in the hell said he was filling wetlands? He has a dirt pile, and nothing else. Using your logic, I should call the FBI on you for being a pedophilic rapist due to you having a penis.

Re-read the thread. It was a subtopic that developed based on comments made. I didn't know that internet message boards were so regulated. I guess you're a fan of regulations after all.

And nice dodging my points, btw.
 
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