WTF? Sex between father and daughter LEGAL?!

JEDI

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Some groups also allow sex between fathers and daughters. The Thonga, a tribe in East Africa, permit a hunter to have sexual intercourse with his daughter before he goes on a lion hunt. And a tribe in Central Africa, the Azande, permit high nobles to marry their own daughters
 

Evadman

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Notice this is not the US or any developed nation.
 

DAWeinG

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They're probably wondering why sex with people other than their daughter is legal. Just cultural norms for them *shrug*.
 

Looney

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Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.
 

rocadelpunk

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hey look at me I'm a russian tzar's son...oh crap I'm bleeding out my ears, oh nooes.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: lukatmyshu
Out of curiousity JEDI, what were you searching for when you came across that link?

LMAO! BWHAHAHA!
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.

yup keep royalty in the family!

hehe thats why Prince Charles looks the way he does!
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.


Hey there, Oedipus. :beer:
 

Kadarin

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Incest is a cultural taboo; to assume it is somehow a universal crime against humanity is foolish. If you take into account the necessity to avoid reinforcing genetic defectives and treat it as simply a matter of sexuality, it is a victimless crime if practiced between consenting adults. (In the US, that is.)
 

HappyPuppy

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If you subscribe to the Adam and Eve theory there has been a whole lot of incest from the very beginning.

If you follow evolutionary theory, though, you are still stuck with the fact that mankind has always been tribal. In the past the tribes were small and the oportunity to mate outside it small. Lots of incestual lovin' to grow the tribe went on, I bet.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.

That's right. Because some people do it, it must be alright. Some people kill, so that must be ok too. I guess nothing's wrong according to your logic.
 

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.

That's right. Because some people do it, it must be alright. Some people kill, so that must be ok too. I guess nothing's wrong according to your logic.

I must be blind. I don't see the word right anywhere in Moralpanic's post.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.

That's right. Because some people do it, it must be alright. Some people kill, so that must be ok too. I guess nothing's wrong according to your logic.

And according to your logic, cultures should not be permitted to have practices and traditions that disagree with yours?
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
If you subscribe to the Adam and Eve theory there has been a whole lot of incest from the very beginning.

If you follow evolutionary theory, though, you are still stuck with the fact that mankind has always been tribal. In the past the tribes were small and the oportunity to mate outside it small. Lots of incestual lovin' to grow the tribe went on, I bet.

LOL, have you ever actually read the book of Genesis? If not, please read the creation story and then come back and tell me where it says Adam and Eve's children were incestual. If you can even quote a passage where it implies incest, I'd like to see it. This is a common misconception held by those who have never actually read the Bible, or when they did, did so with little interest and thus did not receive the wisdom contained therein.
Once having read the creation story from the book of Genesis, you'll notice that after Eve bears Cain and Abel, Cain is banished to the land of Nod to live *where he then got married*. So after Adam and Eve conceived two children, there were already people living in other parts of the world. I see no mention of Adam and Eve having thousands of children who left home and settled in different lands.
 

whaleskinrug

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
If you subscribe to the Adam and Eve theory there has been a whole lot of incest from the very beginning.

If you follow evolutionary theory, though, you are still stuck with the fact that mankind has always been tribal. In the past the tribes were small and the oportunity to mate outside it small. Lots of incestual lovin' to grow the tribe went on, I bet.

LOL, have you ever actually read the book of Genesis? If not, please read the creation story and then come back and tell me where it says Adam and Eve's children were incestual. If you can even quote a passage where it implies incest, I'd like to see it. This is a common misconception held by those who have never actually read the Bible, or when they did, did so with little interest and thus did not receive the wisdom contained therein.
Once having read the creation story from the book of Genesis, you'll notice that after Eve bears Cain and Abel, Cain is banished to the land of Nod to live *where he then got married*. So after Adam and Eve conceived two children, there were already people living in other parts of the world. I see no mention of Adam and Eve having thousands of children who left home and settled in different lands.

So other gods/processes created people such as Cain's wife? It seems more logical that she would be his sister.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.

That's right. Because some people do it, it must be alright. Some people kill, so that must be ok too. I guess nothing's wrong according to your logic.

And according to your logic, cultures should not be permitted to have practices and traditions that disagree with yours?

Not at all. Man has free will, and thus can do as he pleases. Having the ability to do something does not justify so doing. Might does *not* make right. There is a distinction between having the ability to do something, and the concepts of right and wrong.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: whaleskinrug
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
If you subscribe to the Adam and Eve theory there has been a whole lot of incest from the very beginning.

If you follow evolutionary theory, though, you are still stuck with the fact that mankind has always been tribal. In the past the tribes were small and the oportunity to mate outside it small. Lots of incestual lovin' to grow the tribe went on, I bet.

LOL, have you ever actually read the book of Genesis? If not, please read the creation story and then come back and tell me where it says Adam and Eve's children were incestual. If you can even quote a passage where it implies incest, I'd like to see it. This is a common misconception held by those who have never actually read the Bible, or when they did, did so with little interest and thus did not receive the wisdom contained therein.
Once having read the creation story from the book of Genesis, you'll notice that after Eve bears Cain and Abel, Cain is banished to the land of Nod to live *where he then got married*. So after Adam and Eve conceived two children, there were already people living in other parts of the world. I see no mention of Adam and Eve having thousands of children who left home and settled in different lands.

So other gods/processes created people such as Cain's wife? It seems more logical that she would be his sister.

Why does it seem more logical? Please show me the passage that implies incest. You can't. It never says in the book of Genesis that Adam and Eve were the only people G-d created, just the first people.
 

whaleskinrug

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: whaleskinrug
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
If you subscribe to the Adam and Eve theory there has been a whole lot of incest from the very beginning.

If you follow evolutionary theory, though, you are still stuck with the fact that mankind has always been tribal. In the past the tribes were small and the oportunity to mate outside it small. Lots of incestual lovin' to grow the tribe went on, I bet.

LOL, have you ever actually read the book of Genesis? If not, please read the creation story and then come back and tell me where it says Adam and Eve's children were incestual. If you can even quote a passage where it implies incest, I'd like to see it. This is a common misconception held by those who have never actually read the Bible, or when they did, did so with little interest and thus did not receive the wisdom contained therein.
Once having read the creation story from the book of Genesis, you'll notice that after Eve bears Cain and Abel, Cain is banished to the land of Nod to live *where he then got married*. So after Adam and Eve conceived two children, there were already people living in other parts of the world. I see no mention of Adam and Eve having thousands of children who left home and settled in different lands.

So other gods/processes created people such as Cain's wife? It seems more logical that she would be his sister.

Why does it seem more logical? Please show me the passage that implies incest. You can't. It never says in the book of Genesis that Adam and Eve were the only people G-d created, just the first people.

Why is your interpretation any more logical? If god went through the trouble to create Adam from clay and then from this creation to fashion Eve as a separate entity, why would he/she bother to reproduce others him/herself? It would be inefficient.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Are you that dumb? You really think 'incest' is a universal 'sin'? You are aware that even the european nobles practiced incest.

That's right. Because some people do it, it must be alright. Some people kill, so that must be ok too. I guess nothing's wrong according to your logic.

And according to your logic, cultures should not be permitted to have practices and traditions that disagree with yours?

Not at all. Man has free will, and thus can do as he pleases. Having the ability to do something does not justify so doing. Might does *not* make right. There is a distinction between having the ability to do something, and the concepts of right and wrong.

It's not about "might makes right", nor about absolutes in right and wrong. It's about cultural frames of reference, where incest is perfectly acceptable and encouraged. You and I disagree in that you believe in absolute right and wrong as defined by the Bible, and I do not. My belief system is summed up quite well in the quote in my sig.
 
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