WTF teachers make on avg 76k in Orange County.

[holden j caufield]

So they are striking in one of the districts and the newspaper says the avg pay is about $76k. I know teachers are important but $76k for 9 months of work, many more days holidays than private sector people get, and the ridiculous benefits and pensions seems like it doesn't match with what the market bares in this time period.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/district-245294-teachers-school.html

 

[mmntech]

Not surprising. They make that here in Ontario.

 

[LumbergTech]

So they are striking in one of the districts and the newspaper says the avg pay is about $76k. I know teachers are important but $76k for 9 months of work, many more days holidays than private sector people get, and the ridiculous benefits and pensions seems like it doesn't match with what the market bares in this time period.

not all teachers are worth that much, but the service they provide is basically invaluable

 

[OCGuy]

You dont want to know what the cops/fireman make. I underwrite their mortgages.

Edit: Then again you dont want to know what a processor/underwriter at a good company makes either. I guess we are inflated because the cost of living is high. Meh.

 

[Sinsear]

Become a teacher then if you don't like. For years and years no one cared because they had all these great private sector jobs, with christmas bonuses, take home cars, and conventions in vegas, etc etc. People looked down on the civil servants. Economy goes bad and the old private sector "keep up with the jones" types throw bitch fits. Cry more and go wallow in pity.



<----not a teacher

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So where was this?

Unincorporated communities are included if their population is greater than 15,000. These numbers are estimates from the 2005 Census updates for these locales. Numbers are approximate until a new Census occurs.

1. Villa Park: $203,091
2. Anaheim Hills: $157,938
3. Coto de Caza: $153,118
4. Laguna Beach: $141,916
5. Yorba Linda: $138,910
6. Newport Beach: $137,226
7. Tustin Foothills: $122,685
8. Laguna Niguel: $112,241
9. Irvine: $111,455
10. Laguna Hills: $103,419
11. Ladera Ranch: $99,537
12. Dana Point: $97,615
13. San Clemente: $94,576
14. Rossmoor: $93,972
15. Rancho Santa Margarita: $92,671
16. Mission Viejo: $84,934
17. Aliso Viejo: $83,002
18. San Juan Capistrano: $78,638
19. West Garden Grove: $78,112
20. La Palma: $77,177

1. Cypress: $76,312
2. Huntington Beach: $75,900
3. Fountain Valley: $73,504
4. Lake Forest: $73,293
5. Los Alamitos: $71,112
6. Brea: $70,009
7. Costa Mesa: $69,918
8. Seal Beach: $66,131
9. Placentia: $66,083
10. Orange: $62,760
11. Fullerton: $61,462
12. Anaheim: $60,881
13. Tustin: $60,319
14. Buena Park: $57,695
15. Westminster: $57,172
16. Garden Grove: $50,038
17. La Habra: $49,612
18. Santa Ana: $44,505
19. Stanton: $37,840
20. Laguna Woods: $31,212

 

[holden j caufield]

I've heard stories of cops and firefighters making ~150-200k after all the OT. It seems pretty crazy especially how their pensions are determined and us taxpayers have to foot the bill.

 

[Capt Caveman]

So they are striking in one of the districts and the newspaper says the avg pay is about $76k. I know teachers are important but $76k for 9 months of work, many more days holidays than private sector people get, and the ridiculous benefits and pensions seems like it doesn't match with what the market bares in this time period.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/district-245294-teachers-school.html

They work a full year in that 9 months.

 

[MJinZ]

You dont want to know what the cops/fireman make. I underwrite their mortgages.

Edit: Then again you dont want to know what a processor/underwriter at a good company makes either. I guess we are inflated because the cost of living is high. Meh.

Are you saying that basically no American is worth what they think they are worth? It is apparently becoming increasingly clear as every job is getting outsourced to India.

 

[Sinsear]

I've heard stories of cops and firefighters making ~150-200k after all the OT. It seems pretty crazy especially how their pensions are determined and us taxpayers have to foot the bill.

Become a cop or a firefighter then. Or don't call 911.


Apparently these are the times when jealousy rears its ugly head.

 

[MJinZ]

I've heard stories of cops and firefighters making ~150-200k after all the OT. It seems pretty crazy especially how their pensions are determined and us taxpayers have to foot the bill.

Yes, we are paying most of these guys to sit on their ass and get fat eating donuts.

Honestly, I think the average fat-ass weight of cops is pretty damn telling in how little actual work they do outside of directing traffic and ticketing people.

But I guess our Nation is built on speeding tickets, traffic jams, and diabetes. We do not care about the Engineers, Scientists, artists, and innovators.

 

[Demo24]

I never know where the papers pull these numbers from but I'm pretty sure they get elevated by certain outliers. Coaches make a ridiculous amount of money as do school administrators. So I'm pretty sure that raises it.

And not everywhere will teachers make 76k. Perhaps in parts of the US where costs of living is high and salaries have to adjust. There's also larger incomes in those communities and they can afford it easier.

Trust me most teachers make very much middle of the pack and they deserve better then what they get. OT usually doesn't exist for teachers so all the work they put in after hours is simply part of their normal salary. Often summers are used for preparation and continuing on with certifications, etc.

So yeah, if you think it so easy go teach school for a year and report back.

 

[MJinZ]

Become a cop or a firefighter then. Or don't call 911.


Apparently these are the times when jealousy rears its ugly head.

Yup, like every American should ever aspire to be in life is putting out fires and writing speeding tickets.

 

[Blackjack200]

Become a cop or a firefighter then. Or don't call 911.

Good luck. I doubt I could become a fireman in my home town, and the fire chief is my freaking uncle.

 

[Turin39789]

They work a full year in that 9 months.

And then some. I spend a semester observing in a high school. My teacher was one of the up and comers, a real good one. Work every day, several hours of take home lesson planning and grading, weekends are either at school functions or meeting students at the public library to conference on portfolio pieces. Writing up grant applications and getting into progams, spent the summer going to a journalism program to get one started at the school.

I was working 45 hours a week and taking 18 hours of college courses, and I really didn't look forward to working that hard for the rest of my career.

 

[Sinsear]

Yup, like every American should ever aspire to be in life is putting out fires and writing speeding tickets.

The great thing about America is that we can aspire to be whatever we want. Unfortunately, America also means we are stuck with asses like you.

 

[holden j caufield]

Become a cop or a firefighter then. Or don't call 911.


Apparently these are the times when jealousy rears its ugly head.

Great argument, actually I make enough for myself, but I'm also bright enough to question certain things don't seem right. btw to the underwriter could you tell us how much cops and firefighters make? I'd like to know if the OT figure is in the ballpark.

 

[Locut0s]

You couldn't pay me enough to be a high-school or elementary school teacher. My father teaches at a college and I could see doing that.

 

[villageidiot111]

boohoo, teachers who work in one of the richest/mostexpensivetolivein counties in the US get paid a reasonable rate, somebody call the cops.

 

[Adrenaline]

You dont want to know what the cops/fireman make. I underwrite their mortgages.

Edit: Then again you dont want to know what a processor/underwriter at a good company makes either. I guess we are inflated because the cost of living is high. Meh.

If they did not pay people enough to live in the area then there would not be anyone able to do the work consistently.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Whelp, I was looking at your link and my post, and the median family income in San Clemente is almost 20K higher. That would include people with lesser education.

Median home prices? $842K.

76K in those conditions sucks.

 

[mmntech]

I've heard stories of cops and firefighters making ~150-200k after all the OT. It seems pretty crazy especially how their pensions are determined and us taxpayers have to foot the bill.

It is a vary dangerous job though so I think the best of the best do deserve that money.

What bothers me is when bureaucrats are making more money than someone in the private sector doing the same job. There's so many here in Ontario making over $100,000 for jobs that might pay half that on average, if you're lucky, out in the real world. There were subway ticket collectors in Toronto making that! They claim that's because of overtime but I'd sure like to see what overtime rates they get!! Plus they get benefits to die for. The government then has the gall to raise my taxes to pay for those s.o.b's salaries while cutting back on my services. Oh sorry, they can't pick up my garbage every week but at least the bureaucrats are all getting nice raises.

 

[holden j caufield]

total avg family income, is different from avg individual teacher income. But imo a teacher in the city of Compton where the median house price is probably 1/6 should be paid the highest amount. These teachers probably have a much more stressful job.

 

[rudeguy]

once again....why do you care how much someone else is making?


Jealous much?

 

[Locut0s]

once again....why do you care how much someone else is making?


Jealous much?

More like conservative much?