WTF! The tip i left at Carrabas last night is higher than what i put...

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yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Kwan1
2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.

Do you really think you'd come out on top in that battle? If someone did leave a 13% tip, and you gave intentionally bad service the next time, that's just going to lead to a worse tip. The customer is still going to get service. They'll still get their food. If they need something and call you, you're still going to come over. If you hide, they'll ask another waiter to get it for them. They'll be fine. You on other hand will get a small tip each time that you give bad service. And if you're too blatant with your bad service, you might get complaints about your performance. I don't see how you win.
 

Cenalian

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Actually, $2 on that total price would be right in some places, depending on the taxes.

You should be tipping on the price BEFORE tax, not after tax.

For instance, if a bill $14.80 after tax where I live (Ontario), then the original bill would have been 12.87. Which means the 15% tip should be 1.93.

For everyone that tips on top of tax, maybe you should be checking your bill a bit closer in the future

 

nmcglennon

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I once went into Outback Steakhouse to pick up a corporate order for a meeting, and at curbside pickup, I left no tip because the guy was extremely rude... I just wrote $0.00 in the tip column. When our company got the bill, they guy had changed the tip from $0.00 to $100.00... bringing the total to $190 something. We debated it with the credit card company, and the Outback Steakhouse... but who leaves a tip for more than the amount? and it was pickup too... We eventually won, and the dude who forged the $100 tip was fired. All I got to say is be careful...
 

Aceshigh

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I paid for a haircuit by credit card and found they wrote in a higher tip for themselves than I left. I disputed the charge with my cc, and the extra tip was taken off. I hate bastards that pull that crap.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: nmcglennon
I once went into Outback Steakhouse to pick up a corporate order for a meeting, and at curbside pickup, I left no tip because the guy was extremely rude... I just wrote $0.00 in the tip column. When our company got the bill, they guy had changed the tip from $0.00 to $100.00... bringing the total to $190 something. We debated it with the credit card company, and the Outback Steakhouse... but who leaves a tip for more than the amount? and it was pickup too... We eventually won, and the dude who forged the $100 tip was fired. All I got to say is be careful...

I had something like this happen to me. I took my wife and onother couple out for dinner at applebees. The server was rude and slow. Well the bill came to something like $80 and i didnt leave a tip on the reciept (paid with CC). But we did put down a couple dollers in change.

Well my wife is anal when it comes to checkint CC/bank Statements online. The next day she seen the CC statement was for $100 even. Well we called the CC and asked for a copy of the reciept and told them what happend. They faxed me a copy of what applebees put in. i took that and my reciept i got from Applebees to the manager.

It took about a week to get it straightned out but we got the $20 back plus a free meal plus $50 gift card from Applebees. oh and the girl got fired for it.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Kwan1
2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.

Thereby ensuring that you will continue to get a bad tip from the party in question. Brilliant logic.
 

xospec1alk

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Originally posted by: Kwan1
2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.

and in return you get the same crappy tip....whats the point in that? you'll keep giving crappy service, they'll keep tipping you less, nobody wins...just do your job, and if someone gives you a crap tip, so be it...
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Kwan1
2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.
You people do realise that a tip, by definition is a bonus for above average service? You should never expect a tip just because you showed up. I tip 10% for average service, 15% for good service, 20+% for service above good and have at times left the $0.01 tip for particularly bad service. The waiter is not entitled to a tip, he must earn it.

On to the topic at hand, the waiter in this case is counting on you not doing anything because "it's just a dollar". Make sure that you correct things.

ZV
 

CrashX

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Oct 31, 1999
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Kwan1 2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.
You people do realise that a tip, by definition is a bonus for above average service? You should never expect a tip just because you showed up. I tip 10% for average service, 15% for good service, 20+% for service above good and have at times left the $0.01 tip for particularly bad service. The waiter is not entitled to a tip, he must earn it. On to the topic at hand, the waiter in this case is counting on you not doing anything because "it's just a dollar". Make sure that you correct things. ZV

Uh oh, careful. The pro-tip people are going to come in spouting how tips are part of their wage and they deserve it no matter what.
But I totally agree, tips have to be earned, that's why it's called a tip, not a default.
 

CrashX

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Oct 31, 1999
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Originally posted by: nmcglennon
I once went into Outback Steakhouse to pick up a corporate order for a meeting, and at curbside pickup, I left no tip because the guy was extremely rude... I just wrote $0.00 in the tip column. When our company got the bill, they guy had changed the tip from $0.00 to $100.00... bringing the total to $190 something. We debated it with the credit card company, and the Outback Steakhouse... but who leaves a tip for more than the amount? and it was pickup too... We eventually won, and the dude who forged the $100 tip was fired. All I got to say is be careful...

If the guy had been smart he would have changed it to $10.00. Would have been a lot easier to keep that $100.00.
 

brxndxn

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For that $1, I would bring in my receipt and raise HELL. Talk to the Carrabas manager - but in the middle of the floor where others are eating. Raise your voice a little and tell him that you're reporting it to the credit card companies.

That sh!t isn't right. It happened to me once at Applebees. I left a $1 tip on a $25 bill because the waiter was a total asshole. When I checked my statement the next month, it said I spent $30 at Applebees. I was pissed, but I didn't have my receipt to do anything about it.

When you argue with the manager, you will probably get a free meal out of it or a gift certificate. Raising your tip is very illegal.
 

wyvrn

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I went to Cheesecake factory a couple of weeks ago. We had a large party, and they automatically added in an 18% gratuity as is their policy. I took cash from everyone and used my credit card. When I checked my online statement, the guy had added $10 in tips flat to the bill, even though the receipt plainly noted an 18% gratuity. I called and had to argue with the manager. I could get him to agree that the 18% gratuity is added in automatically as their policy, but the dumbass couldn't understand why I would be upset that the server gave himself 10 extra bucks at my expense, without telling me. I finally got them to remove the charge only because I finally threatened to go down to the restaurant and prove the charges were wrong using my receipt. But the manager still didn't agree I was right. Is it me or are people really dumb when it comes to basic math? Especially when the computer automatically figures the tip for them!!!
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: CrashX
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Kwan1 2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.
You people do realise that a tip, by definition is a bonus for above average service? You should never expect a tip just because you showed up. I tip 10% for average service, 15% for good service, 20+% for service above good and have at times left the $0.01 tip for particularly bad service. The waiter is not entitled to a tip, he must earn it. On to the topic at hand, the waiter in this case is counting on you not doing anything because "it's just a dollar". Make sure that you correct things. ZV
Uh oh, careful. The pro-tip people are going to come in spouting how tips are part of their wage and they deserve it no matter what.
But I totally agree, tips have to be earned, that's why it's called a tip, not a default.
Oh, I'm well aware of how tips work. I was a bellboy for a few years and yes we realied on tips to bring us above minimum wage. However, what a lot of people don't realise is that if you fail to make enough tips to get up to minimum wage, then the employer is required by law to make up the difference between income including tips and minimum wage. It's not as though they will only have $2.90/hour or something if no-one tips them. Besides, even as a bellboy in a hotel that was in significant decline I never once fell below minimum wage when tips were added in. Heck, I was averaging something like $7.50 per hour.

ZV
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: aphex
Bill came to $14.80, when i picked it up curbside, i left a $2 tip bringing the total to $16.80.

I check my online statement today and it says $17.80.


Now i know this is just a $1 but its the principal of the thing. Do i have any recourse?

You only left a 13.51% tip?? shame on you.

13.51% is shameful? I don't tip more than I tithe for my church. I leave 10%, plus round up the change to the closest half dollar. Plus I always tip with cash, I don't ever add it to the card...
 

amnesiac

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Oct 13, 1999
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What happens is that all the CC transactions are manually inputted into the system at day's end. It's very possible that there was a mistype.

Call the restaurant and they'll fix it. Or even better be nice to the manager and they'll give you free food. It's a LOT easier for them to hook you up with eats than it is to go through their records and deal wtih the bitchy store accountant.
 

Cenalian

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Oh, I'm well aware of how tips work. I was a bellboy for a few years and yes we realied on tips to bring us above minimum wage. However, what a lot of people don't realise is that if you fail to make enough tips to get up to minimum wage, then the employer is required by law to make up the difference between income including tips and minimum wage. It's not as though they will only have $2.90/hour or something if no-one tips them. Besides, even as a bellboy in a hotel that was in significant decline I never once fell below minimum wage when tips were added in. Heck, I was averaging something like $7.50 per hour.

How is the restaurant supposed to be held accountable for tips made in cash??? Not everyone pays with debit or CC.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
wait until it has truely posted and isnt a temp charge, this happens to me quite often but the charge that ends up being permannet is correct.

Yes. I need to explain this to people a few times a week when they call the place I work and tell me that they've been charged too much.

It goes something like this: "Wait for the charge to post, ignore the "pending" amount. If you still think you've been charged too much when it posts, we'll get it all taken care of then. Yes, when the charge actually clears the bank. Not now. Yes, you're looking online, right? It says pending? Right. . . That number means nothing. OK. Yes. OK. Call us if it's not right after it clears. OK. Gotta go. OK. I've got three more lines ringing and need to let you go. Bye!"
 

Night201

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: CrashX
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Kwan1 2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.
You people do realise that a tip, by definition is a bonus for above average service? You should never expect a tip just because you showed up. I tip 10% for average service, 15% for good service, 20+% for service above good and have at times left the $0.01 tip for particularly bad service. The waiter is not entitled to a tip, he must earn it. On to the topic at hand, the waiter in this case is counting on you not doing anything because "it's just a dollar". Make sure that you correct things. ZV
Uh oh, careful. The pro-tip people are going to come in spouting how tips are part of their wage and they deserve it no matter what. But I totally agree, tips have to be earned, that's why it's called a tip, not a default.
Oh, I'm well aware of how tips work. I was a bellboy for a few years and yes we realied on tips to bring us above minimum wage. However, what a lot of people don't realise is that if you fail to make enough tips to get up to minimum wage, then the employer is required by law to make up the difference between income including tips and minimum wage. It's not as though they will only have $2.90/hour or something if no-one tips them. Besides, even as a bellboy in a hotel that was in significant decline I never once fell below minimum wage when tips were added in. Heck, I was averaging something like $7.50 per hour. ZV

I was a bellman once at a Marriott. Base pay was $8/hour + all the tips.
 

FoBoT

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write a letter to your CC company disputing the charge
explain the whole thing

it will cost you a stamp, so if you figure your time is free, $1 - $0.37 = $0.63

your 10 minutes to do this will net you $0.63

good luck
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Kwan1
2.00 is acceptable for curbside pickup, but dining in, i hope u better give 15%+, or else the servers will recognize you and give u bad service the next time... at lease thats what every server, including myself, does. We won't do anything to your food, but just neglect you for a most of the timeu're there.
Whereupon people will cease to tip you, cease going to your restaurant, your employer will go out of business, and your ungrateful ass will hit the unemployment line.
Tips are an average, idiot (and yes, I used to work off them years back). Some people tip well, some don't. The better the service you provide, the more likely you will get good tips. I would never have complained about $2.00 on a $15.00 order, that's close enough. Hey, but you know what? I always used to work with people like you who would complain, all the time in fact. And you know what? I always got more in tips than they did for some reason
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: SCSIfreek
tipping $2 for a $14.80 bill is reasonable. :| those that say his a crappy tipper can shove it up their butt!! I wonder how much do you tip for $15.00 dollar meal. $5 bucks? Idiots!!!


--Scsi

I tipped a really hot female friend of mine $20 for a bill that come out to be like $11. I got you all beat.
 
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