Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?
BAN
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: dbk
The first shooting occurred around 7AM...WHY WEREN'T CLASSES CANCELED after that???
campus was on lockdown. apparently they thought they had their man and lifted the lockdown.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I would agree.Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: JS80
Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.
Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.
I'd rather see this thread not devolve into a political debate, but I will say that, although I am a gun owner, I don't know that allowing guns on a college campus is a good idea. People that age are somewhat emotionally fragile, and there is a ton of drug and alcohol use among college students - consider the number of fistfights at frat parties, etc., and what might happen if every party included a handful of drunks with guns. I fully understand reasonable minds may differ on this topic, but I think more guns on campus would cause more problems than it would solve.
There is also a much higher chance that a licensed weapon could end up in unlicensed hands in a university.
yeap. since nobody would use a gun since it is against the law.
Originally posted by: jfall
check out the pic on foxnews.com, wtf are they doing?
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
Gun bill gets shot down by panel
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Jesus...
It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.
As a gun owner, I have never agreed with banning guns from law abidding citizens... there are a lot of people like me.. there are even a few in Virginia... How many of these students could have been saved if the students were armed themselve? Who knows?
http://www.vcdl.org/
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?P...5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: JS80
Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.
Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.
I'd rather see this thread not devolve into a political debate, but I will say that, although I am a gun owner, I don't know that allowing guns on a college campus is a good idea. People that age are somewhat emotionally fragile, and there is a ton of drug and alcohol use among college students - consider the number of fistfights at frat parties, etc., and what might happen if every party included a handful of drunks with guns. I fully understand reasonable minds may differ on this topic, but I think more guns on campus would cause more problems than it would solve.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?
Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question
agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?
its a legit question.
the OP has not posted.
Originally posted by: jfall
check out the pic on foxnews.com, wtf are they doing?
Statement by Virginia Tech President Charles Steger on Monday afternoon after the fatal shootings of 21 students:
Well, today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions. There were two shootings which occurred on campus. In each case there were fatalities. The university is shocked and indeed horrified that this would befall us, and I want to extend my deepest and most sincere and profound sympathy to the families of these victims, which include our students.
We are currently in the process of notifying next of kin. The Virginia Tech police are being assisted by numerous other jurisdictions including Montgomery County. Crime scenes are being investigated by the university police, the FBI and the state police.
We continue to work to identify the victims that have been impacted by this tragedy. I cannot begin to convey my own personal sense of loss over this senseless and incomprehensible heinous act. The university will immediately set up counseling centers. So far, centers have been identified in Ambler Johnston and the Cook counseling center to work with our campus community and their families.
Now here are some of the facts as we know them. At about 7:15 this morning, a 911 call came to the university police department concerning an event in West Ambler Johnston Hall. There were multiple shooting victims. While in the process of investigating, about two hours later, the university received reports of a shooting in Norris Hall. The police immediately responded.
The shooter in Norris Hall is deceased. There are multiple fatalities. The number of fatalities has not been confirmed. Victims have been transported to various hospitals in the immediate area in the region to receive emergency treatment. And we will proceed to contact the next of kin as the victims' identities are available. All classes are canceled and the university is closed for the remainder of the day.
The university will open tomorrow at 8:00 a.m., but classes will be canceled on Tuesday. The police are currently staging the release of people from campus buildings. Families wishing to reunite with their students are suggested to meet at the Inn at Virginia Tech, the building that we're in today. Were making plans for a convocation tomorrow at noon in Cassell Coliseum for the university to come together to begin the healing process from this terrible tragedy.
That ends my prepared comments.
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?
Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question
agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?
its a legit question.
the OP has not posted.
Agreed too.
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?
Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question
agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?
its a legit question.
the OP has not posted.
Agreed too.
Agreed.Originally posted by: chrisg22
This whole concealed carry permit talk is getting annoying. Maybe start a new thread in P&N for that. This thread should just be about discussing what's happening at VT.
Originally posted by: gwrober
Very valid points - but not all of us are beer-swilling emotional wrecks with handguns. Some of us are very responsible, and take a CCW seriously. You have to, in this country there are no guarantees, and you never know when you'll have to defend yourself or others around you.
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?
Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question
agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?
its a legit question.
the OP has not posted.
Agreed too.
Maybe he did it?
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
somehow this has its roots in rap music.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: gwrober
Very valid points - but not all of us are beer-swilling emotional wrecks with handguns. Some of us are very responsible, and take a CCW seriously. You have to, in this country there are no guarantees, and you never know when you'll have to defend yourself or others around you.
I fully appreciate that. I had a lot of fun in college, though, and I don't think more than one person in ten who I knew in college would have been 100% reliable as a gun owner. Frankly I think the shooter at VT today is an illustration of the risks of arming college students (though admittedly at this point we do not know whether he is a student).
Originally posted by: toekramp
k, now i am hearing it's an Asian in custody from a couple of peeps. Not that that adds to the story.
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: new2AMD
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?
Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question
agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?
its a legit question.
the OP has not posted.
Agreed too.
Maybe he did it?