Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
fvck you asswipe.
go troll in a diffrent thread. WTF are the mods and why are you not banned?
I am not trolling, I am stating my opinion. This shooting shows we need to repeal the 2nd amendment.
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
wow i go to lunch and stuff myself now i feel like i'm going to be sick....
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
Dude. Go away. Now.
What is your problem. That is a tragedy. over 30 dead, because of guns.
no, its not because of guns. over 30 dead because of some unstable fvckwad
exactly, you think a person that would kill 30 people would give a flying f*ck if guns were legal or not?
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: JS80
Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.
Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.
I'd rather see this thread not devolve into a political debate, but I will say that, although I am a gun owner, I don't know that allowing guns on a college campus is a good idea. People that age are somewhat emotionally fragile, and there is a ton of drug and alcohol use among college students - consider the number of fistfights at frat parties, etc., and what might happen if every party included a handful of drunks with guns. I fully understand reasonable minds may differ on this topic, but I think more guns on campus would cause more problems than it would solve.
I was thinking the same. Hope he is OK.Originally posted by: Lifted
I think everyone needs to cut the OP some slack since at the time of his posting he was in no position to know that anybody had been killed or even wounded. Judging from his avatar, he probably just thought seeing SWAT in action, first hand, was pretty cool. I'm sure he doesn't think it is awsome now.
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
Dude. Go away. Now.
What is your problem. That is a tragedy. over 30 dead, because of guns.
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
Dude. Go away. Now.
What is your problem. That is a tragedy. over 30 dead, because of guns.
Originally posted by: loup garou
I was thinking the same. Hope he is OK.Originally posted by: Lifted
I think everyone needs to cut the OP some slack since at the time of his posting he was in no position to know that anybody had been killed or even wounded. Judging from his avatar, he probably just thought seeing SWAT in action, first hand, was pretty cool. I'm sure he doesn't think it is awsome now.
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
Dude. Go away. Now.
What is your problem. That is a tragedy. over 30 dead, because of guns.
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
fvck you asswipe.
go troll in a diffrent thread. WTF are the mods and why are you not banned?
I am not trolling, I am stating my opinion. This shooting shows we need to repeal the 2nd amendment.
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
God I love how we get quicker news at AT than on CNN.
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
All this talk about putting guns in the hand of law abiding citizens is crazy. Sure it MIGHT make people think twice about shooting someone, but it will also make the escalation of situations much more common place. Bottom-line, right now I feel relatively comfortable and confident when I go out that the vast majority of the people do not carry guns and are of no threat to me. If I knew that carrying guns were legal it would make me far less comfortable and trusting of people. The current times is nothing like generations ago. The kids then and the kids now are very much different. There are far more dysfunctional house holds, all of a sudden there are more syndromes and disorders, more drugs, etc. I don't know how to explain it...but I just plain don't trust the people from my generation on with anything.
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: dbk
The first shooting occurred around 7AM...WHY WEREN'T CLASSES CANCELED after that???
campus was on lockdown. apparently they thought they had their man and lifted the lockdown.
I'm just upset that these people could've been saved. Apparently the shooter killed them execution style...one by one. :|
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: TallBill
Sounds like OP was being sarcastic. To bad you cant conceal carry at school. Easy targets for a psycho.
LOL, oh my god, please explain how everyone involved having a weapon in this instance would have resulted in *less* shootings? Seems to me that a bunch of jumpy students with firearms might well have turned the whole thing into a massacre. Or are you suggesting it's ok for more people to get shot as long as one of them is the guy who started it?
he is not saying everybody. all that is needed is for the possiblity that somebody will have a firearm - it is called deterrence and has kept this and the world safe from nuclear wars since the devices were invented, only 1 example (x2 bombs) were needed to show that we don't wnat to use that power on anybody or have it used on us. the same thing with said gunner - if he is at a school there is little chance anybody will have a weapon that is on equal ground with a firearm, so he has free reign. if there was the knowledge that other people may have a firearm, said shooter would possibly rethink his decision. if he still go along with it, there is a good chance somebody will at the training required to get a ccw permit will drop him, or at least wound him before others are taken out like with no thought of an encounter.
My argument goes like this - if a few people have guns, then anyone who wants to protect themselves has to get a gun. Martial arts or boxing training, pepper spray, even good self awareness and street knowledge are no longer enough.
If I was forced to move to America the very *first* thing I would do is get a gun - if I didn't, then any one of you gun dudes could kill me any time you choose, just for being foreign or looking at you the wrong way.
But I don't want a gun. I don't want to shoot anyone. Why would I want to live in that society? I want less guns. Even here where the act of carrying a loaded handgun on the street will get you 5 years in jail there are too many. I can't imaging what's it's like in the American south where everyone and his brother has one.
Originally posted by: So
Agreed. If the population were armed, it wouldn't have gotten to the point where all the students were that crazy in the first place.
Oh yea, because weapons always make people less crazy...
...not.
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
fvck you asswipe.
go troll in a diffrent thread. WTF are the mods and why are you not banned?
I am not trolling, I am stating my opinion. This shooting shows we need to repeal the 2nd amendment.
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
Gun bill gets shot down by panel
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Jesus...
It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.
As a gun owner, I have never agreed with banning guns from law abidding citizens... there are a lot of people like me.. there are even a few in Virginia... How many of these students could have been saved if the students were armed themselve? Who knows?
http://www.vcdl.org/
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?P...5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The average person is so impulsive and stupid that you can't even trust them to drive a car....and you are saying let them carry guns? Regardless if they are in college or not...they are still basically kids. They have just entered the start of their adulthood. You don't think that at the start of any problem that shootings won't happen over trivial stuff? I would think it would. For example, if both students knew the other was carrying a gun and some kind of argument or fight breaks out; how long do you think it would take before guns are drawn in "self-defense"?
Originally posted by: WackyDan
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: dbk
The first shooting occurred around 7AM...WHY WEREN'T CLASSES CANCELED after that???
campus was on lockdown. apparently they thought they had their man and lifted the lockdown.
I'm just upset that these people could've been saved. Apparently the shooter killed them execution style...one by one. :|
Which makes you wonder why,.... just why not one of them or a group of them tried to stop him in the face of near certain death.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
All this talk about putting guns in the hand of law abiding citizens is crazy. Sure it MIGHT make people think twice about shooting someone, but it will also make the escalation of situations much more common place. Bottom-line, right now I feel relatively comfortable and confident when I go out that the vast majority of the people do not carry guns and are of no threat to me. If I knew that carrying guns were legal it would make me far less comfortable and trusting of people. The current times is nothing like generations ago. The kids then and the kids now are very much different. There are far more dysfunctional house holds, all of a sudden there are more syndromes and disorders, more drugs, etc. I don't know how to explain it...but I just plain don't trust the people from my generation on with anything.
Knives are equally deadly and perfectly legal. Most shooting occur within a ten foot distance from the target well with in range for a face to face knife attack. You should probably not leave your house anymore just to be safe.