Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Superself
What the ****** is wrong with you??
I do not want to believe that you are that ignorant.
Ok then, show me the law that says that the university has to provide a warning to the entire student body that one student has been murdered. Or has to shut down the school. Or is ultimately responsible for the safety of the student body.
I honestly want to know, but people are acting like retards and wont answer.
Originally posted by: Parasitic
Originally posted by: chrisg22
It really seemed like they were trying to find blame in VT for not preventing this from happening. I don't see what they could have done differently with what they knew at the time. The guy obviously was screwed up in the head.
This is American politics and media at its worst: always trying to find a scapegoat to justify ill-logic.
Originally posted by: TallBill
However, is the University legally responsible (sp?) for going above and beyond to protect their student's safety in the state of Virginia?
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Schools policy says:
The goal of every member of our police, security, emergency services and parking and transportation departments is to provide for a safe, secure, enjoyable and fulfilling university experience.
Originally posted by: Balt
Not that's it's terribly useful to point fingers at this point, but most universities seem to have too many employees driving around in golf carts handing out parking tickets and not enough real cops carrying weapons.
That is typical for almost every university campus I've been to. Revenue generation is important.Originally posted by: Balt
Not that's it's terribly useful to point fingers at this point, but most universities seem to have too many employees driving around in golf carts handing out parking tickets and not enough real cops carrying weapons.
:QOriginally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Schools policy says:
The goal of every member of our police, security, emergency services and parking and transportation departments is to provide for a safe, secure, enjoyable and fulfilling university experience.
Pretty tough thing when someone wakes up and decides this is the day to die and take out as many with him as possible in the process.
This can happen anywhere anytime regardless of so called "gun control" or any other nanny state "safegaurds".
This nutjob "infringed" on all of Americans rights today just as the 911 hijackers did their day but in the end we will still be "Free" Americans, don't let the occasional nutjob ever have a chance of taking that away.
Originally posted by: Mill
Look into the Morrill Act that setup land grant Universities.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
That is typical for almost every university campus I've been to. Revenue generation is important.Originally posted by: Balt
Not that's it's terribly useful to point fingers at this point, but most universities seem to have too many employees driving around in golf carts handing out parking tickets and not enough real cops carrying weapons.
I think this tragedy might change that.
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
That is typical for almost every university campus I've been to. Revenue generation is important.Originally posted by: Balt
Not that's it's terribly useful to point fingers at this point, but most universities seem to have too many employees driving around in golf carts handing out parking tickets and not enough real cops carrying weapons.
I think this tragedy might change that.
ASU cops carry guns. but of course, they are a real police dept, not a security company.
Lots of campuses have armed guards. It's the ratio of guards to meter maids that's alarming.Originally posted by: Brainonska511
University of Chicago Police carry guns as well, but they have been given police powers by the state. They patrol not just the University campus, but another 20 or so blocks around the campus. Though, they cannot issue parking tickets for cars on the streets, only the CPD can do that.
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Mill
Look into the Morrill Act that setup land grant Universities.
Holy crap, finally someone answered my question instead of just calling me a retard. Looking it up, thanks.
Edit - Ok, just read both Morril acts, and VT was included in the act but I saw nothing about protection of students.
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: roguerower
Within the past two weeks my college has had two (2) bomb threats and classes in those and surrounding buildings were all cancelled. I just found out that there was a shooting in one of the dorms just a couple of minutes ago.
One complete side of campus is locked down with cops, I just had a cop with a loaded shotgun walk into my class and tell us to stay put.
GOD, this is awesome.
Grow up.
Originally posted by: ShockwaveVT
my take on the sequence of events...
Option A: dude shows up early in the morning at his girlfriend's dorm room, unexpectedly finds her in bed with another guy. flies into a rage and shoots them both to death. he then flees the scene and goes back to his off-campus apt. (can't keep guns/ammo on campus) where he goes totally over the edge and decides to take as many people as possible with him so grabs all his clips, ammo, etc, and another pistol and heads back to campus. He is probably an engineering major or had classes in Norris or the guy sleeping with his GF was an engineering student so he heads there to conduct his murderous rampage before committing suicide.
Option B: he knows about the cheating and shows up loaded up already. kills gf & guy, then sneaks around campus making his way to Norris for whatever reason.
Option C: shooter at the dorm and shooter at norris are two different people who went on coincidental killing sprees (i think unlikely)
terrible terrible incident i just find it incomprehensible that someone would attack so many innocent people