WTF!!!!!! - Virginia Tech

[bucwylde23]

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

 

[GTaudiophile]

WTF? Now a bomb threat on campus!

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
WTF? Now a bomb threat on campus!

really? :|

link?

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
WTF? Now a bomb threat on campus!

really? :|

link?

It was on CNN. Burress Hall surrounded due to POSSIBLE bomb threat is what I heard. Article says it's over now. Here.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
WTF? Now a bomb threat on campus!

really? :|

link?

It was on CNN. Burress Hall surrounded due to POSSIBLE bomb threat is what I heard. Article says it's over now. Here.

I can't believe any one would be that sick to call in a bomb threat after all of this.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

 

[Luthien]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

I found that odd but at the time it couldnt put my finger on it. Her discusions about the killer and what was known that is comming to light as we move further in time from the event are disturbing too. Can't really put my finger on it. I don't know.

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: allisolm
It was on CNN. Burress Hall surrounded due to POSSIBLE bomb threat is what I heard. Article says it's over now. Here.

I can't believe any one would be that sick to call in a bomb threat after all of this.

According to the VT press person I heard on TV, it WASN'T a bomb threat, but she didn't say what it was - just a "report of suspicious activity." Maybe further elucidation at the 9:15 press conference.

 

[bucwylde23]

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

I found that odd but at the time it couldnt put my finger on it. Her discusions about the killer and what was known that is comming to light as we move further in time from the event are disturbing too. Can't really put my finger on it. I don't know.

I don't think she MEANT for it to be inappropriate. I think she may have just been trying to get the students pumped up a bit in a positive way. But I think she got caught up in some type of "pep rally" mentality and maybe went a bit too far.
I don't know, I guess it's not too big a deal anyways.

 

[TraumaRN]

So I've read more about this Liviu Librescu, seriously the man was a hero...and as one news writer put it, perhaps the purpose of his life was revealed in that moment that he blocked the door and allowed his students to escape out the window...

Talk about a brave man...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

Uhh...you've got two descriptions of it right above you.

 

[Luthien]

When I was in college they didnt make students take off shades or hats so it seems strange to me that the teacher would make him take off his hat and glasses everyday.

It is college after all not grade school. The students are paying to be taught, etc. I mean sure if it is a chemistry or biochem lab or something that requires you to remove your hat and glasses that is different but in a lecture hall or class it should not even come up.

 

[golfercraig]

so, we've got a loner, who all that knew him describes as unstable. He's identified, "counseled," and released. Other kids quit coming to classes that he is taking because of their unease and fear. He is issued restraining orders. Everyone describes as someone who could "be a school shooter." Yet, NO ACTION IS TAKEN. Imagine that. Can't hurt his self-esteem. Let him stay. We can rehabilitate him!! The nanny state strikes again.....

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

I found that odd but at the time it couldnt put my finger on it. Her discusions about the killer and what was known that is comming to light as we move further in time from the event are disturbing too. Can't really put my finger on it. I don't know.

I don't think she MEANT for it to be inappropriate. I think she may have just been trying to get the students pumped up a bit in a positive way. But I think she got caught up in some type of "pep rally" mentality and maybe went a bit too far.
I don't know, I guess it's not too big a deal anyways.

ya, that's what I was thinking. It seemed more an act of defiance--as in showing that Cho's "message" would not terrorize and she, and everyone else will continue to live, despite his desires.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

Uhh...you've got two descriptions of it right above you.

No, I've got one poster who didn't see it and is claiming he's providing accurate information without a link, and then I've got another poster who has made a few vague statements. The third poster didn't even address what she did, but just labeled it wierd. Does anyone care to end the treasure hunt and just explain what happened? For the love of God, it isn't that hard to describe what she was doing. I didn't see it because I was in my car.

I'm starting to think there's some kind of sinister angle behind you folks claiming what she did was so inappropriate, because I haven't seen a single media report about it. The only think I can find is something over at loonytoon central (Free Republic).

Anyway, link away Queasy. You said you read something, so it shouldn't be too hard to supply me with that link. Thanks.

 

[Luthien]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

Uhh...you've got two descriptions of it right above you.

No, I've got one poster who didn't see it and is claiming he's providing accurate information without a link, and then I've got another poster who has made a few vague statements. The third poster didn't even address what she did, but just labeled it wierd. Does anyone care to end the treasure hunt and just explain what happened? For the love of God, it isn't that hard to describe what she was doing. I didn't see it because I was in my car.

I'm starting to think there's some kind of sinister angle behind you folks claiming what she did was so inappropriate, because I haven't seen a single media report about it. The only think I can find is something over at loonytoon central (Free Republic).

Anyway, link away Queasy. You said you read something, so it shouldn't be too hard to supply me with that link. Thanks.

Found a link to her speech.

LINK

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

Uhh...you've got two descriptions of it right above you.

No, I've got one poster who didn't see it and is claiming he's providing accurate information without a link, and then I've got another poster who has made a few vague statements. The third poster didn't even address what she did, but just labeled it wierd. Does anyone care to end the treasure hunt and just explain what happened? For the love of God, it isn't that hard to describe what she was doing. I didn't see it because I was in my car.

I'm starting to think there's some kind of sinister angle behind you folks claiming what she did was so inappropriate, because I haven't seen a single media report about it. The only think I can find is something over at loonytoon central (Free Republic).

Anyway, link away Queasy. You said you read something, so it shouldn't be too hard to supply me with that link. Thanks.

Found a link to her speach.

LINK

Thank You.

 

[bucwylde23]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

Uhh...you've got two descriptions of it right above you.

No, I've got one poster who didn't see it and is claiming he's providing accurate information without a link, and then I've got another poster who has made a few vague statements. The third poster didn't even address what she did, but just labeled it wierd. Does anyone care to end the treasure hunt and just explain what happened? For the love of God, it isn't that hard to describe what she was doing. I didn't see it because I was in my car.

I'm starting to think there's some kind of sinister angle behind you folks claiming what she did was so inappropriate, because I haven't seen a single media report about it. The only think I can find is something over at loonytoon central (Free Republic).

Anyway, link away Queasy. You said you read something, so it shouldn't be too hard to supply me with that link. Thanks.

Dude, calm down a bit, wtf are you talking about "sinister angle"

She gave a good poem/speech, and was receiving a pretty long standing-ovation. After standing there for a bit during the ovation, she raised her hands in the air and spun around looking around the arena. You just have to watch it to understand, it's not something we can tell you about for you to fully get it.
Like I said, it doesn't really matter anyways.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Luthien
Something about Nikki Giovanni doesnt sit well with me. Grandstanding with the tentative disclosure about the shooter. I don't know but something seems off to me. Just a gut feeling. Maybe nothing but I get a weird feeling about her. I may be completely wrong though and admit that.

I did think it seemed a bit awkward when she was holding her arms up and spinning around.

I didn't see her speech but heard about that. Somehow, that just didn't seem appropriate...

The Washington Nationals have been wearing VT baseball caps the last couple of nights. Somehow, that seems more appropriate than what she did.

Can you explain why you feel it was inappropriate?

Holding your arms up and spinning around to soak in the applause at what is supposed to be a solemn event? Bringing attention on yourself when you're supposed to be honoring the fallen?

Like I said, I didn't see what she did but the descriptions that I've heard/read are kind of WTFish to me.

Enlighten me on this vivid and graphic description of her inappropriate behavior. I was simply listening on the radio, so I'll be needing a link of what you are talking about. Especially since you didn't see it either.

Uhh...you've got two descriptions of it right above you.

No, I've got one poster who didn't see it and is claiming he's providing accurate information without a link, and then I've got another poster who has made a few vague statements. The third poster didn't even address what she did, but just labeled it wierd. Does anyone care to end the treasure hunt and just explain what happened? For the love of God, it isn't that hard to describe what she was doing. I didn't see it because I was in my car.

I'm starting to think there's some kind of sinister angle behind you folks claiming what she did was so inappropriate, because I haven't seen a single media report about it. The only think I can find is something over at loonytoon central (Free Republic).

Anyway, link away Queasy. You said you read something, so it shouldn't be too hard to supply me with that link. Thanks.

I never claimed to have accurate information. I repeatedly hedged my statements with "I didn't see it". I heard two descriptions on the radio last night while driving around. I read descriptions here. But, here is a YouTube link of her speech.

After seeing the video, I think it falls somewhere in between.

 

[Mill]

I guess it would seem weird if the crowd hadn't started chanting and the administrators starting acting similar. Like I said, just from hearing it alone I didn't understand what you all were talking about. However, it does seem a bit weird, but the context at the ends makes it seem more logical.

Like someone else said... it doesn't really matter. Thank you both for the links.

 

[Luthien]

They say Cho was getting increasing violent but other than the final culmination where are the stories of this violence?

 

[Queasy]

Rush Limbaugh ,of all people, nixes the videogame blame angle.

CALLER: What I really think is an issue is video violence, video gaming. I will guarantee you, I'll bet my last dollar in my pocket, that this shooter will be found to have been a compulsive video gamer, and when people are living that kind of lifestyle -- and college students do this a lot.

RUSH: (sigh) Let's say you're right. Not every video gamer goes out and murders 33 people on the college campus though. There's more to this than that. We can find all kinds of societal problems and ills, but the fact of the matter is that whatever you would look at as a bad influence -- video games as you mentioned -- it may desensitize people, but it doesn't turn everybody into mass murderers.

...

I know it's natural that everybody wants to throw their theories into this, and perhaps come up with perhaps a unique explanation or to understand, and I think it's natural, because people have a tough time accepting a relatively simple explanation for something of this scale. But how many people are playing video games out there? How many millions of people play video games, and how many millions of people have guns?

If you start blaming the video games, you may as well demand video game control because it's the same thing when you start trying to blame guns for this. You have here a sick individual, an evil individual who committed a random act. But if you want to start blaming the video games, this guy was this or that, weeeeell, then you've gotta maybe talk about banning them because that's the same tack that's taken with guns. You got one guy who used a gun that's it. You're falling prey to the same way the Drive-Bys propagandize, and that's, "Well, we need gun control! We gotta get guns out of the hands of people."

...

So you gotta be real careful here not to paint with broad brushes on these things. You gotta be very careful not to plug this into your own individual political prism, because then you become no different than what the Drive-Bys are doing. If you just wait, eventually we'll find out more than we want to know about this guy, and you're going to have to listen to what's reported about this guy with keen ears, and you're going to have to read with sharp eyes out there, because the Drive-Bys are going to report about this guy in ways that will advance their political agenda because that's what this story is to them.