WTF!!!!!! - Virginia Tech

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus
I was picked on and felt out of place at times in high school and now that i think of it, i wasn't picked on THAT badly but feelings of anger and loneliness was probably disproportionate to the bullying i was receiving.

I can tell by your demeanor on the forum.

You're still retarded.

I don't think that you see the underlying issue here.

People that were picked on constantly as a kid usually get picked on because of their actions/behavior. It's not just a random occurrence. Of course, they'll never see it... they can't see it. If they could see it, they'd behave in a manner that would prevent the bullying.

I can tell that you were bullied... your personality exudes it. In fact, that same personality is probably what caused you to get bullied in the first place. I've never seen you, I've only dealt with you on a forum. But your attitude seems so poor and cowardly that I can honestly say that I'd get satisfaction by roughing you up a bit. And if I did, you should know that I'm not the only one that's felt that way about you, and there's a reason for it.

Christ almighty, how did one of the cool kids get onto the forums.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jupiter57

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TehMac
Being bullied is no excuse for shooting. I've been bullied a ton, "its all light hearted fun" they said, but its grating. It is not enough to shoot innocents.

Nobody said it was, but this kid had serious mental health issues and it's not being addressed in schools. Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye.

PSA: Being spoiled and having a lack of discipline ARE NOT mental health issues.

ABC did an interview with a professional psychiatrist and he said cho was most likely schizophrenic

Did the psychiatrist actually have direct contact with Cho at any point before making this judgment?

Not that I doubt Cho may have been schizophrenic, but if there was no contact, then take the psychiatrist's words with a grain of salt. Diagnosing, or suggesting a diagnosis, without "laying hands" on the client is, in many instances, tantamount to malpractice.

Well, there seems to be a lot of evidence about his mental health based on his writings and his interactions with people:

the guy is a forensic psychiatrist who deals with mass killers:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/VATech/story?id=3050483&page=1

What then leads you to believe Cho had schizophrenia?

How he related to his roommate was just too bizarre to be depression. The bizarre content of his plays ? mashing a half-eaten "banana bar" in someone's mouth, the hypersexual, nihilistic (death obsessed) obsessions in the absence of depressive guilt or tearfulness are another clue. The progressive decline of a period of years. Those with schizophrenia, especially in their earliest years, are not readily recognizable as such ? their condition is evolving. But here was someone who, as early as 2005, was carrying himself so strangely that he was a spectacle. The depressed withdraw and disappear. Those who are so peculiar in their manner so as to be inappropriate (taking cell phone pictures of his teacher, speaking inaudibly, pulling a cap low over his eyes) exhibit signs and symptoms more indicative of schizophrenia. He was communicating in a rambling manner reflective of what we appreciate as autistic thinking ? characteristic of schizophrenia. In a similar vein, Mr. Cho's stilted communication in his homicide note (deceitful charlatans ? not the language of a 23-year-old college kid) is also the manner of a schizophrenic's communications, as is his pronounced delay in responding to questions.

True, the mounting evidence does point to at least some type of long-standing mental illness or psychosis. But again, and regardless of the psychiatrist's amount of experience, diagnosis or suggesting a diagnosis based solely on "chart review" so to speak is irresponsible.

In essence, all I'm truly saying is that if the doctor suggested Cho may have been schizophrenic, yet did not have direct contact with the client, then he needs to limit the scope of his suggestion by stating this information.

I think we can say with near 100% certainty that he had some mental illness. Reading how he behaved was just beyond abnormal, even for your typical depressed youth.

It's very likely that there was an illness of some sort, definitely. The difficulty is in properly querying for symptom type, severity, duration, etc., and then delineating the appropriate diagnosis (e.g., via ruling out other conditions), which requires contact with the client.

 

[yh125d]

Bullies, and mental illnesses, and mass murders oh my!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: StormRider
My feeling was that what bothered Cho wasn't really the bullying and teasing but rather the lack of inclusion. He felt like an outcast. He felt excluded. He had no friends. I haven't heard of any concrete examples of this bullying that would be considered out of the ordinary. Did he constantly get the crap beat out of him or something in middle school?

I think every kid has been teased or felt like they were excluded at some point in their lives. Cho's problem was a mental illness that didn't allow him to cope with something an ordinary person would be able to move on.

As for me? I was an overweight Chinese kid up to around high school (I lost a lot of weight around my junior year). I've heard my share of "ching-chong china man" in my youth. I've had kids make squinty eyes and puffed out cheeks at me. In middle school I dreaded riding the bus because there was one guy who tormented me. One time when I was sitting next to my friend on the bus, he came up behind us and clunked our heads together. He kept calling me this certain nick-name because of my looks. I was never invited to any social gatherings during junior high and high school. In terms of girls, I've never dated and I'm now 43 years old.

Do I hate people? No. I actually like people (but I don't feel comfortable around them if that makes any sense). I don't even hate the guy who tormented me in middle school. The bullying faded away and at the end I kind of felt like he actually started to respect me. I realize that this teasing and bullying is caused by immaturity and most people grow out of it.

Looking back through the years in college and even now I realized that I'm the one responsible for my lack of social life. I'm the one who declined several social invitations. I'm the one who says "hi" to my neighbors but quickly dart inside my house to avoid a longer conversation.

From what I've read of Cho, he is the one who doesn't respond to people but he instead chooses to blame others for his problems. We're the ones responsible for all this. We forced him to kill.

But what can be done about this? Do we force all kids to include every kid in their activities so no kid's feelings will be hurt? Are we supposed to invite the strange moody silent kid over to watch Spiderman 3 at the theaters with our other friends?

Dude, it sounds like we just need to party. There's nothing wrong with you, just need need to learn how to have a good time and properly party.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Phokus
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting_285

Reading that article was a bit unsettling. At times, it sounded a bit too familiar.

Originally posted by: TehMac
Being bullied is no excuse for shooting. I've been bullied a ton, "its all light hearted fun" they said, but its grating. It is not enough to shoot innocents.

If you're not adequately resistant to it, you wind up feeling utterly helpless after awhile. Putting up with it year, after year, after year, after year, not knowing any way of stopping it, not understanding why it's happening, and with the adults around you not expressing much interest or effort in stopping it, it can push someone over the edge.

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus
People accept bullying in school like it's something you just go through. It shouldn't be that way.

Most people that get continuously bullied bring it on themselves through their own actions. They just don't know it.

The kids that I remember getting bullied were annoying and oafish. Some of these people were so damn pathetic that they'd cause otherwise calm kids to bully them.

My friend got bullied a lot. He'd always end up crying and begging for mercy. It was so damn pathetic yet he couldn't see it. He wouldn't hit anyone back because he though he'd get sent to jail, so people would just keep on picking on him.

Even now he won't hit anyone back.

And you're blaming your friend for that? That's more idiotic than saying a rape victim got raped because she dressed sexy and deserved it. The altercations i got into, i fought back, but that was because i was extremely angry at the time. Not everyone is a 'macho gangsta' willing to fight back. :disgust:

I'm going to end here with you because i know this is going go on ad infinitum for pages on end. :disgust:

91TTZ's response doesn't surprise me. I'd expect the same of Icebergslim, if he might drop by this thread.

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
But your attitude seems so poor and cowardly that I can honestly say that I'd get satisfaction by roughing you up a bit.

How's life back there with your Stone Age brain still in full command? Species as low down on the evolutionary tree as reptiles engage in that sort of behavior. Nice to see you're making yourself at home with that mentality. Let me know when you're ready to use more than your brain stem.

Originally posted by: Phokus
Nobody said it was, but this kid had serious mental health issues and it's not being addressed in schools. Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye.

That's just it - there's a pre-existing mental instability or problem, and it may even be a result of this that the bullying is brought on. Others see this, and they engage in the primitive behavior of attacking the weak, even of their own species. If someone's mental state is already abnormal, their perceptions are different, and their reactions are not easily predicted. Some people might complain to their friends about it for support, or maybe use their circle of friends to help ward off or discourage potential verbal/physical attacks. The shooter may have had no people whom he felt he could trust, which would only add to the sense of helplessness and isolation. After so much of this, the only solution seems to be the most final one - death.

I was never physically bullied. I came from a tame school; I only witnessed one fight in all my years at school. It was verbal taunting, and exclusion from groups. It started around 2nd grade, and only relented because I left the building for good, when I graduated. I never hit anyone though. Despite my dad suggesting that I punch someone, I believed that words did not warrant physical attacks. That, and I weighed less than people a few years younger than me. I don't doubt that, as a high school senior, freshman could have beaten me in a fight, because most of them were still taller and bigger than me. I was 110lbs when I finished high school. And I knew full well that losing in a fight would accomplish absolutely nothing positive.

I guess there were fantasies about others whom I strongly disliked dying off. It seemed like there was nothing else that could stop them. But I never at all considered doing it. I didn't like the idea of hitting someone. Killing was just out of the question. I'd sooner take my own life than harm another for verbal harassment. I also lacked the shooter's apparently violent mind. His writings, the little bits I've read, were unlike anything I'd come up with. The most violent act I engage in is playing computer games, and even now I mainly play Simcity4.

It's quite difficult to keep a reason in mind to go to a place every day where you know you're going to be berated at every turn. They made fun of everything: how I walked, how I dressed, my hair, glasses, speech, writing, vocabulary, the fact that I'd sleep on the bus, my backpack, the fact that I did my homework, my choice of friends, the food I liked, the music I liked, and the list goes on. What I "learned" in school was that most of the people there hated every last minute detail about me.
I eventually learned ways of minimizing the abuse. Eye contact often would bring it on, so I made eye contact with no one. That persists to this day. I can't bear the thought of eye contact. I don't like speaking to people as I pass. I don't like leaving home, as home is "safe." I dislike crowds, but then I've always hated crowds. Before kindergarten, at a birthday party, I told a room of cheerful relatives to "BE QUIET!!!!" when they were singing to me. God I hated that noise and attention. All I remember to this day when I think about that time is just a feeling of horrible rage. I was stuck in a high chair at the time and couldn't get down. I was trapped, and freaking the hell out.

So I never liked crowds, or groups of people, or social situations. Even before the taunting began in school, I preferred either being by myself, or with adults. Other kids just seemed too, well, childish. Adults usually spoke clearly and concisely. Kids my age didn't.
Take that predisposition, and then put a person like that into school, where everything is geared toward socialization, often times mandatory. If I could do a group project by myself, I would. Working with others felt like a waste of time. Talking to someone else, keeping them up to my speed, just was a drain on me. I could get work done, or be bothered by someone else who didn't really care about the project or know what was going on.

About to end this punctuated rant (yes, this is punctuated for me), I will close by just reinforcing, I do not condone what Cho Seung-Hui did, not at all. What was done to him still does not warrant violence. Unfortunately for all involved, it seems that he might have posessed mental instabilities or imperfections from the beginning. Change that, and what seems completely insane to a "normal" person will make perfect, logical sense to someone like him. And in his mind, he KNOWS his solution is the only one. He doesn't just think it, he knows it, knows it to be true with all that he is. And reasoning with someone like that isn't easy - what is reasonable to others is chaos to him. To reason, one must first understand, and it seems that either no one tried to understand, or else he blocked out or rejected any attempts to do so. The result was a tragedy. Sadly, it has happened before and it seems that not enough was done to prevent it. And, like so many other events in history, despite people saying that, "We must remember this, and learn from it, so that it might never happen again," it also tends to come to pass that, "It's happened before, it will happen again."

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Queasy
Kids pick on kids. News at 11.

Not to the same degree, and not all kids have mental illnesses.

That's the only difference though. Cho had mental illness issues that were left unaddressed through the years. Other than that the way he was bullied was nothing out of the ordinary. I've seen and was the blunt of such bullying myself. Neither I or any of the kids I know that got bullied went on murderous rampages.

It looks like neither the bullying or the mental illness was addressed... actually his parents did request for him to be sent to a mental hospital because they were afraid he was suicidal though. People accept bullying in school like it's something you just go through. It shouldn't be that way.

I agree. But its also something kids have to deal with while growing up because they aren't going to get bullied by other kids just in school.

After high school, i was never really bullied. High school is completely different and really f***ed up for a lot of people.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TehMac
Being bullied is no excuse for shooting. I've been bullied a ton, "its all light hearted fun" they said, but its grating. It is not enough to shoot innocents.

Nobody said it was, but this kid had serious mental health issues and it's not being addressed in schools. Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye.

If he didn't seek help, than how the hell are they supposed to know? He could have easily been concealing it, and then decided to ask. The news only feeds us tidbits of information, to make us assume what they want us to.
I'm not going to want more teachers and counselors to get more annoying and nosey. Nor do I want more of them. They get paid enough, and there are more than enough.

 

[mrjminer]

ROFL

Groupthink ftw?

Bullying is not the cause of the problems. The problem is this generation upcoming being completely screwed by retarded parents. Did people go around murdering 10+ people at school any time pre-1990? I didn't think so. I'd wager that bullying was occurring more often then than now.

It might not even be the parents, but the way society has evolved to make everyone the gd same and reduce all alternate forms of conflict to be frowned upon. Who knows--not like it matters since society is going down and there will be a revolution within the next 100 years. Deal with it.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus
I was picked on and felt out of place at times in high school and now that i think of it, i wasn't picked on THAT badly but feelings of anger and loneliness was probably disproportionate to the bullying i was receiving.

I can tell by your demeanor on the forum.

You're still retarded.

I don't think that you see the underlying issue here.

People that were picked on constantly as a kid usually get picked on because of their actions/behavior. It's not just a random occurrence. Of course, they'll never see it... they can't see it. If they could see it, they'd behave in a manner that would prevent the bullying.

I can tell that you were bullied... your personality exudes it. In fact, that same personality is probably what caused you to get bullied in the first place. I've never seen you, I've only dealt with you on a forum. But your attitude seems so poor and cowardly that I can honestly say that I'd get satisfaction by roughing you up a bit. And if I did, you should know that I'm not the only one that's felt that way about you, and there's a reason for it.

Christ almighty, how did one of the cool kids get onto the forums.

What can you say, he blames his friend for getting beat up. If that's not cool and edgy, i don't know what is :laugh:

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Because teachers don't do sh*t when bullying happens. I was taunted on a bus once by half the bus and the teacher was right there and he didn't give a rat's ass. Teachers simply don't give a sh*t. And what happens when you report bullying to the teachers? Not only do they not give a sh*t, but the bullying escalates.

sweeping generalization FTL.

I agree with 91TZ or whatever his name is, people get bullied for their actions. We all bully someone, and he everyone else bullies me back. Its mob mentality, but when you're bullying, you usually have a reason other than trauma for doing it. I realize my problems, but I don't feel like amending them completely, partially because I feel I wouldn't have any fun. (I'm the cheerful and talkative kid, who always gets picked on, because people want to see if they can break him).
I've never cried since the 2nd grade. Not because of school anyway. Thats a damned long time.

 

[wetcat007]

All lies! It was the video games that made him do it!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
He was a member back in the way-old days, I never heard something nearly this barbaric out of him back then.

Dude, I'm not barbaric, and I'm not a bully. I'm a tech geek.

I think where my opinion differs from other people's is that I don't have a victim mentality, I believe in being as self-sufficient as possible. I think there are often multiple ways to look at the same issue, and sometimes when you look at it from a different angle, the same person can come to a vastly different conclusion. I'm saying that in the end, you have to be able to help yourself. Never give up and don't accept that your fate is already determined, since your actions will determine what happens.

Before you think that I was some jock bully as a kid, let's step back into reality.

This is what I was really like: pic1

pic2

pic3

(and that's the friend I was referring to)

I never give up on my friends, and we still hang out. That picture was taken 25 years ago.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus
People accept bullying in school like it's something you just go through. It shouldn't be that way.

Most people that get continuously bullied bring it on themselves through their own actions. They just don't know it.

The kids that I remember getting bullied were annoying and oafish. Some of these people were so damn pathetic that they'd cause otherwise calm kids to bully them.

My friend got bullied a lot. He'd always end up crying and begging for mercy. It was so damn pathetic yet he couldn't see it. He wouldn't hit anyone back because he though he'd get sent to jail, so people would just keep on picking on him.

Even now he won't hit anyone back.

I really don't have words for this. The idea that it's okay to assault people as you see fit is barbaric, insulting, and ludicrous. How you can live your life that way and not feel your soul rot I can never possibly hope to understand.

You used to be one of the better members of these forums. What happened?

Is there a bizarro 91TTZ that exists? He's always been a sh1tty poster. He hates me because i call him out on his idiotic posts just like this one. He sounds like he's a 12 year old with access to the internet - trying to prove how 'hardcore' he is.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Phokus


What can you say, he blames his friend for getting beat up. If that's not cool and edgy, i don't know what is :laugh:

It's almost as cool as admitting that you were a pansy who got bullied in real life, and taking out your pent up rage anonymously on internet forums.

 

[Goosemaster]

Such an extreme case of a head case going off and taking dozen with him does not a social code of conduct re visitation make.

the guy was so out of the norm, so untreated and so dead inside (multiple news outlets reported that he was already fvked up when his family immigrated here)
that comparing him to everyone else for the sake of some sort of "reform" is a waste of time, not to mention a potential breach of our rights just waiting to happen.

high school kids are mean though

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus
People accept bullying in school like it's something you just go through. It shouldn't be that way.

Most people that get continuously bullied bring it on themselves through their own actions. They just don't know it.

The kids that I remember getting bullied were annoying and oafish. Some of these people were so damn pathetic that they'd cause otherwise calm kids to bully them.

My friend got bullied a lot. He'd always end up crying and begging for mercy. It was so damn pathetic yet he couldn't see it. He wouldn't hit anyone back because he though he'd get sent to jail, so people would just keep on picking on him.

Even now he won't hit anyone back.

I really don't have words for this. The idea that it's okay to assault people as you see fit is barbaric, insulting, and ludicrous. How you can live your life that way and not feel your soul rot I can never possibly hope to understand.

You used to be one of the better members of these forums. What happened?

Is there a bizarro 91TTZ that exists? He's always been a sh1tty poster. He hates me because i call him out on his idiotic posts just like this one. He sounds like he's a 12 year old with access to the internet - trying to prove how 'hardcore' he is.

He was a member back in the way-old days, I never heard something nearly this barbaric out of him back then.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus

Is there a bizarro 91TTZ that exists? He's always been a sh1tty poster. He hates me because i call him out on his idiotic posts just like this one. He sounds like he's a 12 year old with access to the internet - trying to prove how 'hardcore' he is.

I'm not hardcore, I'm just real.

And from reading your posts, you don't just have a problem with me, you seem to have a problem with a few people on here. I like to relax and have a good time, whereas you like to hang out in P&N and argue with people.

You're confrontational.

Yes, i'm confrontational, i'll admit that, but that's with politics and that's because i feel strongly about that. If your theory held out about me, i would get into internet tough guy shouting matches over nothing and threatening to kick their ass or whatever (which unsurprisingly is what you did). You're misinterpreting me everytime i call you a moron - it's not to act tough or it's because of residual anger from my youth, it's because i really really hate insanely stupid people such as yourself... 1000 times more than i do bullies.

I don't like to be confrontational, which is why I tend to avoid P&N. I don't like arguing with people, I'd rather accumulate friends than enemies.

For you I feel like it's a lost cause, you're always going to hate me so why even try to be nice?

I don't hate you at all. It's just sometimes you post things that are so ridiculously insane (i.e. blaming your friend for being beat up by bullies) that my whole being goes *WTF* that i go off on you (and yes, sometimes i do overreact if i have a stressful day at work). Anyway, i'm going to go back to study, it's really no point in arguing over this anymore. Just at least admit you're wrong in blaming your friend for getting beat up this time... it just doesn't add up on an intellectual or moral level.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Phokus
I was picked on and felt out of place at times in high school and now that i think of it, i wasn't picked on THAT badly but feelings of anger and loneliness was probably disproportionate to the bullying i was receiving.

I can tell by your demeanor on the forum.

You're still retarded.

I don't think that you see the underlying issue here.

People that were picked on constantly as a kid usually get picked on because of their actions/behavior. It's not just a random occurrence. Of course, they'll never see it... they can't see it. If they could see it, they'd behave in a manner that would prevent the bullying.

I can tell that you were bullied... your personality exudes it. In fact, that same personality is probably what caused you to get bullied in the first place. I've never seen you, I've only dealt with you on a forum. But your attitude seems so poor and cowardly that I can honestly say that I'd get satisfaction by roughing you up a bit. And if I did, you should know that I'm not the only one that's felt that way about you, and there's a reason for it.

You sir are a complete and utter moron.

:roll:

 

[waggy]

wow. i can't beleive anyone is blaming getting bullied on the victim. its just amazing.


sadly the only way to stop a bully is to stand up to them. i was 5ft 3inch and maybe 110 in my first 2 years of highschool. of course i was a target of bullies. finally got tired of it and when one guy dared me to hit him. i hit him. granted i did get my ass kicked more then i liked but 90% of the bullies backed off. you don't even have to physicaly fight. i had one guy picking on me in class. so i started asking the girls in class if that turned them on. If a big guy finding the smallest kid in class and abusing him turned them on. NOT ONE said yeah it does. most looked at the bully with disgust. to bad he didn't get it.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TehMac
Being bullied is no excuse for shooting. I've been bullied a ton, "its all light hearted fun" they said, but its grating. It is not enough to shoot innocents.

Nobody said it was, but this kid had serious mental health issues and it's not being addressed in schools. Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye.

If he didn't seek help, than how the hell are they supposed to know? He could have easily been concealing it, and then decided to ask. The news only feeds us tidbits of information, to make us assume what they want us to.
I'm not going to want more teachers and counselors to get more annoying and nosey. Nor do I want more of them. They get paid enough, and there are more than enough.

Because teachers don't do sh*t when bullying happens. I was taunted on a bus once by half the bus and the teacher was right there and he didn't give a rat's ass. Teachers simply don't give a sh*t. And what happens when you report bullying to the teachers? Not only do they not give a sh*t, but the bullying escalates.

 

[pacho108]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Yes, I can.

Have you ever known someone who constantly complains about their condition yet does nothing to improve it? If someone finds himself with a serious problem getting bullied, then he's doing something wrong. When I hear stories about families who keep moving their sons to different schools, only to have them get bullied there, too, I can't help but think that the kid is bringing it upon himself.

wtf, it's like you're saying the bullies are doing a favor to the weak so they can improve themselves.

 

[skywhr]

LISTEN TO ME, EVERYONE IS BULLIED / PICKED ON IN SCHOOL, EXCEPT THOSE DOING THE TORMENTING. I WAS BULLIED AND I DIDNT GO ON A KILLING RAMPAGE!! ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT SOMEONE DIDNT BEAT HIM TO DEATH WITH A F'N HAMMER AND DRAG HIS USELESS LIFELESS CORPSE THROUGH THE STREETS.

 

[Phokus]

Ok so we're all in agreement that 91TTZ is a complete idiot? Great, i'm not crazy, thanks for the confirmation guys

 

[jupiter57]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TehMac
Being bullied is no excuse for shooting. I've been bullied a ton, "its all light hearted fun" they said, but its grating. It is not enough to shoot innocents.

Nobody said it was, but this kid had serious mental health issues and it's not being addressed in schools. Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye.

PSA: Being spoiled and having a lack of discipline ARE NOT mental health issues.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: mrjminer
ROFL

Groupthink ftw?

Bullying is not the cause of the problems. The problem is this generation upcoming being completely screwed by retarded parents. Did people go around murdering 10+ people at school any time pre-1990? I didn't think so. I'd wager that bullying was occurring more often then than now.

It might not even be the parents, but the way society has evolved to make everyone the gd same and reduce all alternate forms of conflict to be frowned upon. Who knows--not like it matters since society is going down and there will be a revolution within the next 100 years. Deal with it.

I disagree. Parenting, yes, has a part to play. But ever hear of "crazy?" Some people are just crazy. Yes, it's up to the school /his parents/ society to find the signs but to blame his actions on societal aspect A (videogames!) B (rock music!) or C (bullies!) forgets that some people are just ****** crazy.