WTF!!!!!! - Virginia Tech

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: jfall
This is horrible

Sad that it takes something like this to get Don Imus off the news

I think part of the reason his situation got so much press was the slow news week last week. Obviously the VT story is one that will dominate the headlines for a while (unless, God forbid, something even worse happens).

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: supafly

Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

Gun bill gets shot down by panel

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Jesus...

It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.

Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.

Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.

 

[SVT Cobra]

They said that the lockdown was lifted then the second happened.

Officially the deadliest also.

ATF on the way.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?

Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question

 

[Queasy]

29 now...

 

[ThePresence]

I'm watching CNN Pipeline, they are interviewing students.
Seems like there was another incident last year or something.

 

[new2AMD]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?

Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question

agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
They said that the lockdown was lifted then the second happened.

Officially the deadliest also.

ATF on the way.

The deadliest school massacre happened back in the 1920's. Someone bombed a school.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: supafly

Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

Gun bill gets shot down by panel

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Jesus...

It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.

As a gun owner, I have never agreed with banning guns from law abidding citizens... there are a lot of people like me.. there are even a few in Virginia... How many of these students could have been saved if the students were armed themselve? Who knows?


http://www.vcdl.org/
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?P...5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html

 

[toekramp]

News reports indicated that the gunman used two 9mm handguns to carry out the shootings before turning a gun on himself.

 

[fallenangel99]

Ouch. So sad

There are a few pictures on www.foxnews.com (including an Asian guy getting cuffed)

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JS80

Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.

Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.

I'd rather see this thread not devolve into a political debate, but I will say that, although I am a gun owner, I don't know that allowing guns on a college campus is a good idea. People that age are somewhat emotionally fragile, and there is a ton of drug and alcohol use among college students - consider the number of fistfights at frat parties, etc., and what might happen if every party included a handful of drunks with guns. I fully understand reasonable minds may differ on this topic, but I think more guns on campus would cause more problems than it would solve.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
They said that the lockdown was lifted then the second happened.

Officially the deadliest also.

ATF on the way.

The deadliest school massacre happened back in the 1920's. Someone bombed a school.

This is being classified as the deadliest campus shooting....

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: dbk
The first shooting occurred around 7AM...WHY WEREN'T CLASSES CANCELED after that???

campus was on lockdown. apparently they thought they had their man and lifted the lockdown.

 

[VTHodge]

Originally posted by: timswim78
This is very sad and confusing. I thought that the police had someone in custody at 10:55AM (according to a post in this thread) and lifted the lock-down. After that, it sounds like more people were killed. Was there a second shooter, did they have the wrong person in custody, did they have noone in custody, or what?

I believe the additional deaths are those who were reported as injured earlier.

 

[gerwen]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?

I think it's more likely that the incident has pulled him away from a terminal where he can update us. It might be a while before he gets to a place (and state of mind) to check in.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: new2AMD

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?

Um....that's an interesting way of phrasing that question

agreed. Whats the purpose behind that question? Trying to be cute?

its a legit question.

the OP has not posted.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JS80

Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.

Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.

I'd rather see this thread not devolve into a political debate, but I will say that, although I am a gun owner, I don't know that allowing guns on a college campus is a good idea. People that age are somewhat emotionally fragile, and there is a ton of drug and alcohol use among college students - consider the number of fistfights at frat parties, etc., and what might happen if every party included a handful of drunks with guns. I fully understand reasonable minds may differ on this topic, but I think more guns on campus would cause more problems than it would solve.

I would agree.
There is also a much higher chance that a licensed weapon could end up in unlicensed hands in a university.

 

[ntdz]

This is horrible...what is wrong with people?!?!

 

[jfall]

check out the pic on foxnews.com, wtf are they doing?

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Notice how the original poster hasn't said a thing since the first shooting. Think he got popped?

BAN

 

[Queasy]

Link - supposed post from a VaTech frat listserv

Zach just got back and he told us his story. he can tell u the details better but he deserves to be recognized immediately. He was in norris hall and heard the gunshots comign from down the hall. while others hid in the class room zach got up and got a few others to help him baracade the door with desks. He could hear the gunman coming down the hall opening doors n firing into class rooms. Zach then saw his door handle turn and the gun man tried to get in but zach slammed the door back shut, others then got up to help, trying to hold the door shut with desks. zach then said he heard the the gunman reload a new magazine and fired two shots directly through the door, luckily didnt hit anybody. the gunman then gave up an continued down the hall

 

[gwrober]

Originally posted by: JS80


Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.

Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.

Exactly. A firearm in the hands of someone trained to use it is very effective, and much safer than a nutjob running around shooting people. Someone posted it earlier - it would be a better (still not a "good") situation if someone was CCW, and was able to subdue or take out the shooter before too many more people were killed.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JS80

Actually her comments make no ****** sense. As someone who does not own a gun, I would feel safer knowing that there are people out there with CC permits.

Banning guns makes it UNSAFE for a law abiding citizen and gives criminals superiority.

I'd rather see this thread not devolve into a political debate, but I will say that, although I am a gun owner, I don't know that allowing guns on a college campus is a good idea. People that age are somewhat emotionally fragile, and there is a ton of drug and alcohol use among college students - consider the number of fistfights at frat parties, etc., and what might happen if every party included a handful of drunks with guns. I fully understand reasonable minds may differ on this topic, but I think more guns on campus would cause more problems than it would solve.

I would agree.
There is also a much higher chance that a licensed weapon could end up in unlicensed hands in a university.

yeap. since nobody would use a gun since it is against the law.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: jfall
check out the pic on foxnews.com, wtf are they doing?

looks like they are carrying out someone that injured.