Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
Gun bill gets shot down by panel
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Jesus...
It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.
As a gun owner, I have never agreed with banning guns from law abidding citizens... there are a lot of people like me.. there are even a few in Virginia... How many of these students could have been saved if the students were armed themselve? Who knows?
http://www.vcdl.org/
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?P...5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The average person is so impulsive and stupid that you can't even trust them to drive a car....and you are saying let them carry guns? Regardless if they are in college or not...they are still basically kids. They have just entered the start of their adulthood. You don't think that at the start of any problem that shootings won't happen over trivial stuff? I would think it would. For example, if both students knew the other was carrying a gun and some kind of argument or fight breaks out; how long do you think it would take before guns are drawn in "self-defense"?
Originally posted by: gwrober
What is happening at VT is tragic.
Guns are not the reason these people are gone, the person with the vendetta is.
That person is to blame.
They won't listen. Sigh...Originally posted by: hdeck
take the gun arguments elsewhere please.
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
All this talk about putting guns in the hand of law abiding citizens is crazy. Sure it MIGHT make people think twice about shooting someone, but it will also make the escalation of situations much more common place. Bottom-line, right now I feel relatively comfortable and confident when I go out that the vast majority of the people do not carry guns and are of no threat to me. If I knew that carrying guns were legal it would make me far less comfortable and trusting of people. The current times is nothing like generations ago. The kids then and the kids now are very much different. There are far more dysfunctional house holds, all of a sudden there are more syndromes and disorders, more drugs, etc. I don't know how to explain it...but I just plain don't trust the people from my generation on with anything.
Knives are equally deadly and perfectly legal. Most shooting occur within a ten foot distance from the target well with in range for a face to face knife attack. You should probably not leave your house anymore just to be safe.
Well by your logic then; Pens, forks, spoons, etc. are legal and can be lethal. So I should be afraid of that too. I know what you are trying to say but the level of lethality and possibility for mass casualty between a knife and gun are too disparate to try to compare the two.
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
God I love how we get quicker news at AT than on CNN.
CNN, unlike ATOT and faux, likes to verfiy the story before they post random comments information.
Originally posted by: Cooler
Just wait till finals the amout of class time missed will not be fun.
Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Qacer
Originally posted by: toekramp
k, now i am hearing it's an Asian in custody from a couple of peeps. Not that that adds to the story.
This is supposed to be a picture of a person handcuffed by the cops. You be the judge. When I saw the pic, the first thing that came to my mind was that this guy looked like of Oriental descent -- even from far away. I'm only saying this because I am of Oriental descent and somehow the person in custody looked Oriental to me.
if you are of "oriental descent" that you should know that you should not refer to yourself as oriental, but that you are of Asian descent. I would understand this if you're not Asian, but that's not the case.
To be politically correct, "Oriental" is used to describe objects. :roll:
that is, unless you're an inanimate object, then please accept my apologies.
Originally posted by: UCDAggies
More evidence of gun motivating crime. It is long overdue that we repeal the 2nd amendment. another tragedy that could have been prevented if we didn't have the 2nd Amendment.
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
Gun bill gets shot down by panel
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Jesus...
It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.
As a gun owner, I have never agreed with banning guns from law abidding citizens... there are a lot of people like me.. there are even a few in Virginia... How many of these students could have been saved if the students were armed themselve? Who knows?
http://www.vcdl.org/
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?P...5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The average person is so impulsive and stupid that you can't even trust them to drive a car....and you are saying let them carry guns? Regardless if they are in college or not...they are still basically kids. They have just entered the start of their adulthood. You don't think that at the start of any problem that shootings won't happen over trivial stuff? I would think it would. For example, if both students knew the other was carrying a gun and some kind of argument or fight breaks out; how long do you think it would take before guns are drawn in "self-defense"?
This isn't the wild west - people who actively go out to get CC permits aren't gun toting psychos who's going to pull a gun for a trivial matter. People like that ONLY pull out the gun in a LIFE threatening situation.
Originally posted by: Cooler
Just wait till finals the amout of class time missed will not be fun. BTW one of my best friends is at VT I hope he is ok.
Originally posted by: manowar821
you guys arguing about politics in this thread, stfu, gtfo.
azzholes, go make your own thread.
I'm guessing the OP is okay, just not with internet right now. He said there was a cop guarding them, or in their room, right? And no cops were killed.
Originally posted by: hdeck
take the gun arguments elsewhere please.
Originally posted by: Cooler
Just wait till finals the amout of class time missed will not be fun.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
All this talk about putting guns in the hand of law abiding citizens is crazy. Sure it MIGHT make people think twice about shooting someone, but it will also make the escalation of situations much more common place. Bottom-line, right now I feel relatively comfortable and confident when I go out that the vast majority of the people do not carry guns and are of no threat to me. If I knew that carrying guns were legal it would make me far less comfortable and trusting of people. The current times is nothing like generations ago. The kids then and the kids now are very much different. There are far more dysfunctional house holds, all of a sudden there are more syndromes and disorders, more drugs, etc. I don't know how to explain it...but I just plain don't trust the people from my generation on with anything.
Knives are equally deadly and perfectly legal. Most shooting occur within a ten foot distance from the target well with in range for a face to face knife attack. You should probably not leave your house anymore just to be safe.
Well by your logic then; Pens, forks, spoons, etc. are legal and can be lethal. So I should be afraid of that too. I know what you are trying to say but the level of lethality and possibility for mass casualty between a knife and gun are too disparate to try to compare the two.
Mass casualty? what if he set off a couple pipe bombs in the cafe? Ban home depot? Your fear of guns is irrational.
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: amddude
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
Gun bill gets shot down by panel
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Jesus...
It's easy to see irony after the fact. However, I think many people would have agreed with her comments at the time.
As a gun owner, I have never agreed with banning guns from law abidding citizens... there are a lot of people like me.. there are even a few in Virginia... How many of these students could have been saved if the students were armed themselve? Who knows?
http://www.vcdl.org/
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?P...5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The average person is so impulsive and stupid that you can't even trust them to drive a car....and you are saying let them carry guns? Regardless if they are in college or not...they are still basically kids. They have just entered the start of their adulthood. You don't think that at the start of any problem that shootings won't happen over trivial stuff? I would think it would. For example, if both students knew the other was carrying a gun and some kind of argument or fight breaks out; how long do you think it would take before guns are drawn in "self-defense"?
This isn't the wild west - people who actively go out to get CC permits aren't gun toting psychos who's going to pull a gun for a trivial matter. People like that ONLY pull out the gun in a LIFE threatening situation.
If we make it legal to carry conceal weapons then there will be a lot of people who will go and get it. Because if you know a bunch of people have it then you will want one to "protect" yourself. Look at the way countries are trying to develop nuclear technologies to keep up and "protect" themselves from countries that already have it. Anyone with a clean record and patience can get a license...that doesn't mean that those people won't ever kill anyone with that power. They can either flip out because their wife/husband cheated on them. They can accidentally jump to conclusions and mistakenly shoot someone over a misunderstanding because they thought the other guy had a gun and was putting them in danger. STUPID PEOPLE WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THE GUN...GUARANTEED. Why make it legal to carry them and force other people to feel they have to get one to protect themselves?