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knightc2

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Originally posted by: jmanny
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Westboro Baptist Church plans to "preach" at the funerals of the victims.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

Buncha inbred hateful tards... :|

i'll tell you what....If those Assh**es will be there, I will be also, to bust some heads. Those f'n freaks piss me off to no end.

Are you kidding me? Who are these nut jobs? What disrespect to show up at a funeral and preach their hatred. Nice.
 

Heifetz

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: uhohs
oh crap
sorry, but a had a wtflol moment from reading that. =/

the system fails hard, they should've locked that kid away.

Christ, a 5 year old can write better than this. This guy was no Shakespeare.
 

SVT Cobra

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Mar 29, 2005
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It does look like the system failed on multiple accounts, everything that is coming out makes this kid look like a sicko.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
It does look like the system failed on multiple accounts, everything that is coming out makes this kid look like a sicko.
How did it fail? He wrote disturbing works and was sent to counseling; isn't that a sign of our system working?
 

fishjie

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: RichardE
Name:
In memory of Professor Liviu Librescu who saved his students at Virginia T.
Type:
Student Groups - General
Description:
As Jews worldwide honored on Monday the memory of those who were murdered in the Holocaust, a 76-year-old survivor sacrificed his life to save his students in Monday's shooting at Virginia Tech College that left 32 dead and over two dozen wounded.

Professor Liviu Librescu, 76, threw himself in front of the shooter, who had attempted to enter his classroom. The Israeli mechanics and engineering lecturer was shot to death, but all the students lived - because of him.

He blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee, Joe Librescu (his son) said in a telephone interview from his home outside of Tel Aviv. "Students started opening windows and jumping out."

Professor Librescu and his wife, immigrated to Israel from Romania in 1978 and then moved to Virginia in 1985 for his sabbatical, but had stayed since then.

Thanks to his heroic effort almost the whole class has survived.

Please spread the word, among your friends, about this great man.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2326642623

They need to erect a statue of this man on the VT campus.

Bio

Wow


i admit this story made me cry

the world needs more good ppl like Librescu

 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
CNN Story Title:

Gunman angry at rich kids.

Let the spin begin. Rich kids will take the fall for this.

Gunman angry at debauchery.

Gunman angry at deceitful charlatans.
 

exdeath

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Jan 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Originally posted by: exdeath
No disrespect, but as long as we stand around crying, wearing ribbons, and singing sappy songs, this kind of thing will keep happening.

Buy something other than flowers and take your communities back into your own hands.

Yeah, it's better to have everyone in society armed, so every drunken barfight becomes a gunfight, every disagreement between neighbors becomes a shootout, and every domestic dispute becomes a dead spouse. Yeah, what better way to end the one in a million acts of random gun violence like VT than to just make gun violence so common it's not random anymore, problem solved! :beer:

I have more weapons and ammunition than the local SWAT team could ever figure out how to use, I always carry a handgun, etc. I get into normal disputes with normal people all the time. Drawing my weapon will only occur when life is unjustly threatened.

Sorry, but no gunfights to report, and I even live in Arizona shock and surprise.

:roll:

In fact I find that being armed with a deadly weapon makes me more rational and likely to cause me to avoid escalating a trivial dispute, that in the grand scheme of things, means absolutely nothing.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to carry or will carry, the point is calm and cool people like me who are capable of taking control of a situation like this are denied the ability to do so. I agree with everyone else here saying that schools are no place for guns... but I would carry mine in my book bag every single day if I had a legal avenue of doing so. It may just be your wife or kid who makes it out alive next time.
 
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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Originally posted by: exdeath
No disrespect, but as long as we stand around crying, wearing ribbons, and singing sappy songs, this kind of thing will keep happening.

Buy something other than flowers and take your communities back into your own hands.

Yeah, it's better to have everyone in society armed, so every drunken barfight becomes a gunfight, every disagreement between neighbors becomes a shootout, and every domestic dispute becomes a dead spouse. Yeah, what better way to end the one in a million acts of random gun violence like VT than to just make gun violence so common it's not random anymore, problem solved! :beer:

I have more weapons and ammunition than the local SWAT team could ever figure out how to use, I always carry a handgun, etc. I get into normal disputes with normal people all the time. Drawing my weapon will only occur when life is unjustly threatened.

Sorry, but no gunfights to report, and I even live in Arizona shock and surprise.

:roll:

In fact I find that being armed with a deadly weapon makes me more rational and likely to cause me to avoid escalating a trivial dispute, that in the grand scheme of things, means absolutely nothing.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to carry or will carry, the point is calm and cool people like me who are capable of taking control of a situation like this are denied the ability to do so. I agree with everyone else here saying that schools are no place for guns... but I would carry mine in my book bag every single day if I had a legal avenue of doing so. It may just be your wife or kid who makes it out alive next time.

I wish you were my neighbor
 

manowar821

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Mar 1, 2007
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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Originally posted by: exdeath
No disrespect, but as long as we stand around crying, wearing ribbons, and singing sappy songs, this kind of thing will keep happening.

Buy something other than flowers and take your communities back into your own hands.

Yeah, it's better to have everyone in society armed, so every drunken barfight becomes a gunfight, every disagreement between neighbors becomes a shootout, and every domestic dispute becomes a dead spouse. Yeah, what better way to end the one in a million acts of random gun violence like VT than to just make gun violence so common it's not random anymore, problem solved! :beer:

I have more weapons and ammunition than the local SWAT team could ever figure out how to use, I always carry a handgun, etc. I get into normal disputes with normal people all the time. Drawing my weapon will only occur when life is unjustly threatened.

Sorry, but no gunfights to report, and I even live in Arizona shock and surprise.

:roll:

In fact I find that being armed with a deadly weapon makes me more rational and likely to cause me to avoid escalating a trivial dispute, that in the grand scheme of things, means absolutely nothing.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to carry or will carry, the point is calm and cool people like me who are capable of taking control of a situation like this are denied the ability to do so. I agree with everyone else here saying that schools are no place for guns... but I would carry mine in my book bag every single day if I had a legal avenue of doing so. It may just be your wife or kid who makes it out alive next time.

You're completely failing to realize that the majority of people are not emotionally stable enough to handle themselves like you, or I.

People in general, ARE NUTS. People get drunk at bars, and then where is their self control? Not in the bar, I can tell you that much.

People do not DESERVE guns, they can't even handle not getting into fights in the first place.
 

Luthien

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Feb 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Originally posted by: exdeath
No disrespect, but as long as we stand around crying, wearing ribbons, and singing sappy songs, this kind of thing will keep happening.

Buy something other than flowers and take your communities back into your own hands.

Yeah, it's better to have everyone in society armed, so every drunken barfight becomes a gunfight, every disagreement between neighbors becomes a shootout, and every domestic dispute becomes a dead spouse. Yeah, what better way to end the one in a million acts of random gun violence like VT than to just make gun violence so common it's not random anymore, problem solved! :beer:

I have more weapons and ammunition than the local SWAT team could ever figure out how to use, I always carry a handgun, etc. I get into normal disputes with normal people all the time. Drawing my weapon will only occur when life is unjustly threatened.

Sorry, but no gunfights to report, and I even live in Arizona shock and surprise.

:roll:

In fact I find that being armed with a deadly weapon makes me more rational and likely to cause me to avoid escalating a trivial dispute, that in the grand scheme of things, means absolutely nothing.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to carry or will carry, the point is calm and cool people like me who are capable of taking control of a situation like this are denied the ability to do so. I agree with everyone else here saying that schools are no place for guns... but I would carry mine in my book bag every single day if I had a legal avenue of doing so. It may just be your wife or kid who makes it out alive next time.

You're completely failing to realize that the majority of people are not emotionally stable enough to handle themselves like you, or I.

People in general, ARE NUTS. People get drunk at bars, and then where is their self control? Not in the bar, I can tell you that much.

People do not DESERVE guns, they can't even handle not getting into fights in the first place.

Yeah, you have to be serious and sober like the military and police to be politically correct when killing people.
 

Ricochet

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Oct 31, 1999
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Originally posted by: TXHokie
Prof Livu Librescu sacrificed himself to save his students by barricading himself against the door.
I had a class taught by him many years ago and seeing his kind face on the news as one of the victim is just a complete shock.
RIP

"HERO" needs to be added to his official title besides Professor. Your selfless act will not be forgotten, Liviu Librescu.

 

exdeath

Lifer
Jan 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Originally posted by: exdeath
No disrespect, but as long as we stand around crying, wearing ribbons, and singing sappy songs, this kind of thing will keep happening.

Buy something other than flowers and take your communities back into your own hands.

Yeah, it's better to have everyone in society armed, so every drunken barfight becomes a gunfight, every disagreement between neighbors becomes a shootout, and every domestic dispute becomes a dead spouse. Yeah, what better way to end the one in a million acts of random gun violence like VT than to just make gun violence so common it's not random anymore, problem solved! :beer:

I have more weapons and ammunition than the local SWAT team could ever figure out how to use, I always carry a handgun, etc. I get into normal disputes with normal people all the time. Drawing my weapon will only occur when life is unjustly threatened.

Sorry, but no gunfights to report, and I even live in Arizona shock and surprise.

:roll:

In fact I find that being armed with a deadly weapon makes me more rational and likely to cause me to avoid escalating a trivial dispute, that in the grand scheme of things, means absolutely nothing.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to carry or will carry, the point is calm and cool people like me who are capable of taking control of a situation like this are denied the ability to do so. I agree with everyone else here saying that schools are no place for guns... but I would carry mine in my book bag every single day if I had a legal avenue of doing so. It may just be your wife or kid who makes it out alive next time.

You're completely failing to realize that the majority of people are not emotionally stable enough to handle themselves like you, or I.

People in general, ARE NUTS. People get drunk at bars, and then where is their self control? Not in the bar, I can tell you that much.

People do not DESERVE guns, they can't even handle not getting into fights in the first place.

Oh I agree, but people are going to be stupid no matter what the law says or what you or I say. So why limit my options and further eliminate what little sanity remains in this country?

I'd say the majority of people are nuts because they get away with minor things all their lives without consequences until they pull something big like this VT shooting. All because our kids are indoctrinated in public schools starting with grade K that all violence is wrong no matter what and we aren't even allowed to defend ourselves, that private property is wrong, that everybody is special, everybody deserves everything, nobody ever gets left out, everybody is fair and equal, etc. A young mind molded with those expectations is dangerously unprepared for the real world of rejection, failure, consequences, etc.

We as a society, parents, gun owners, teachers, *everybody*, have forgotten how to say "NO". Some of this is laziness. Some of it is because we are all too busy and its more convenient. Some of it sadly is calculated political agenda using our courts and education systems to engage in a long term violence free socialist revolution in America. All of them are equally guilty for causing the problems we have today.

Counseling, therapy, etc, are all good first steps at preventing some people from going nuts, but all the counseling in the world will achieve nothing if we don't acknowledge that it is not the only solution, and that it fails to catch everyone.
 

roguerower

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Nov 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jawo
INCREDIBLE!!! Nikki Giovinni's address was so powerful!

Did anyone record that? That was simpy amazing!

I was able to get myself into cassell by saying I was a member of the Highty-Tighties. The entire thing was great, but Giovinni was the best hands down, bar none.
 

jpeyton

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I think it is safe to say we don't need to discuss gun laws any further.

They didn't change after the last half-dozen school shootings.

There was a big circus made out of gun laws after Columbine, but nothing changed.

It's safe to say that nothing will change this time either.

The killer legally purchased his firearms. They were common semi-automatic handguns.

We could add layer upon layer of more laws to restrict firearms purchases, but the killer (with no previous criminal history) would have easily passed whatever security checks we added.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: roguerower
Originally posted by: Jawo
INCREDIBLE!!! Nikki Giovinni's address was so powerful!

Did anyone record that? That was simpy amazing!

I was able to get myself into cassell by saying I was a member of the Highty-Tighties. The entire thing was great, but Giovinni was the best hands down, bar none.

Anyone cap it?
 

Ricochet

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Oct 31, 1999
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Okay, I don't know if anyone answered this. Was the S/N on those guns filed off before or after they were purchased?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: ricochet
Okay, I don't know if anyone answered this. Was the S/N on those guns filed off before or after they were purchased?
After. The gun dealer had records and details of the sale; you don't keep records for the authorities if you're selling a gun with filed off serial numbers.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Originally posted by: exdeath
No disrespect, but as long as we stand around crying, wearing ribbons, and singing sappy songs, this kind of thing will keep happening.

Buy something other than flowers and take your communities back into your own hands.

Yeah, it's better to have everyone in society armed, so every drunken barfight becomes a gunfight, every disagreement between neighbors becomes a shootout, and every domestic dispute becomes a dead spouse. Yeah, what better way to end the one in a million acts of random gun violence like VT than to just make gun violence so common it's not random anymore, problem solved! :beer:

I have more weapons and ammunition than the local SWAT team could ever figure out how to use, I always carry a handgun, etc. I get into normal disputes with normal people all the time. Drawing my weapon will only occur when life is unjustly threatened.

Sorry, but no gunfights to report, and I even live in Arizona shock and surprise.

:roll:

In fact I find that being armed with a deadly weapon makes me more rational and likely to cause me to avoid escalating a trivial dispute, that in the grand scheme of things, means absolutely nothing.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to carry or will carry, the point is calm and cool people like me who are capable of taking control of a situation like this are denied the ability to do so. I agree with everyone else here saying that schools are no place for guns... but I would carry mine in my book bag every single day if I had a legal avenue of doing so. It may just be your wife or kid who makes it out alive next time.

You're completely failing to realize that the majority of people are not emotionally stable enough to handle themselves like you, or I.

People in general, ARE NUTS. People get drunk at bars, and then where is their self control? Not in the bar, I can tell you that much.

People do not DESERVE guns, they can't even handle not getting into fights in the first place.

Oh I agree, but people are going to be stupid no matter what the law says or what you or I say. So why limit my options and further eliminate what little sanity remains in this country?

I'd say the majority of people are nuts because they get away with minor things all their lives without consequences until they pull something big like this VT shooting. All because our kids are indoctrinated in public schools starting with grade K that all violence is wrong no matter what and we aren't even allowed to defend ourselves, that private property is wrong, that everybody is special, everybody deserves everything, nobody ever gets left out, everybody is fair and equal, etc. A young mind molded with those expectations is dangerously unprepared for the real world of rejection, failure, consequences, etc.

We as a society, parents, gun owners, teachers, *everybody*, have forgotten how to say "NO". Some of this is laziness. Some of it is because we are all too busy and its more convenient. Some of it sadly is calculated political agenda using our courts and education systems to engage in a long term violence free socialist revolution in America. All of them are equally guilty for causing the problems we have today.

Counseling, therapy, etc, are all good first steps at preventing some people from going nuts, but all the counseling in the world will achieve nothing if we don't acknowledge that it is not the only solution, and that it fails to catch everyone.


Think about it this way: relax the concealed gun laws, and allow everyone to carry, meaning the sane, rational people as well as the nutjobs. At least the rational cool people are there to take control once the nutjobs pop offf a few. Meaning: casualties are minimum.

Or: No one can carry guns. The rational cool people, or the nutjobs. When the nutjobs go off, no one gets shot (injured maybe, but certainly not shot to death). The rational cool people are there to pound them into the ground, and still--limiting death.

Relaxed gun laws: Minimal casualties (one might hope)
No guns: little to no casualties.

Isn't the latter the most sensible option?
 

Conky

Lifer
May 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ricochet
Okay, I don't know if anyone answered this. Was the S/N on those guns filed off before or after they were purchased?
After. The gun dealer had records and details of the sale; you don't keep records for the authorities if you're selling a gun with filed off serial numbers.
Yep, and filing the serial numbers off of a firearm is a federal offense.. not that this guy was terribly worried about the law.

 
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