Wussification of America comes to my hometown

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Perknose

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whats the difference?

Hazing is an organized ritual for entrance into an organization, such as a fraternity or a sports team or one of the service academies, where upperclassmen haze the freshman.

Hazing varies greatly in severity, from light, fun and inconsequential to brutal, mean and sadistic.

Bullying is just . . . bullying. It can occur at any time, to anyone weaker from anyone stronger (and uglier of mind.)

Like Zebo, I almost always intervened when I saw bullying carried to an extreme. I just couldn't not.
 

Perknose

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You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.

Monty Python rules, and this skit was a classic. :thumbsup:
 

Leros

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Some kids got in trouble for hazing on my high school's football team. Granted they were anally raping the new players with broom handles....
 

DangerAardvark

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Some kids got in trouble for hazing on my high school's football team. Granted they were anally raping the new players with broom handles....

What kind of gaylord doesn't want to get sodomized with a broom handle to gain acceptance into a locker room fraternity of beefy, sweaty men?
 

zerocool84

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The private high school I went to had freshman hazing then any sport you go into will have hazing of some sort. I'm surprised many of you have never gone through any type of hazing.
 

fustercluck

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Hazing is stupid unless you're in the pros maybe. Even then you should keep it somewhat lighthearted and not physically hurt anyone.
 

preCRT

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The wusses were the helicopter parents who ran to a judge to try to stop the punishment the hazers clearly earned for breaking the long standing rules against hazing. Figures it would be another wuss from Needham who posted this whining thread.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
 

hellotyler

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Didn't think this kind of stuff was still common. Too bad people are still often retarded brutes.
 

Capt Caveman

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The wusses were the helicopter parents who ran to a judge to try to stop the punishment the hazers clearly earned for breaking the long standing rules against hazing. Figures it would be another wuss from Needham who posted this whining thread.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I'm guessing you're another one that played in the band. Figures, it's always the pusses that find throwing pies a dangerous weapon.
 

Zebo

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That's bullying, not hazing.

Bullshit. Private frats and whatnot I'm not against whatever. Who knows WTF masons do with thier knives and needle weirdness. but public sports open to all children deserve position based on merit not how well they take broken nose and all bias who gets them.
 

Capt Caveman

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Bullshit. Private frats and whatnot I'm not against whatever. Who knows WTF masons do with thier knives and needle weirdness. but public sports open to all children deserve position based on merit not how well they take broken nose and all bias who gets them.

You don't know what hazing is then. Reading a follow-up article, the freshman were willing participants, laughed and found it funny. One overzealous dad decided a pie was a dangerous weapon. The parents of the other freshman requested that no punishment be given to the others as it was all meant in fun. Sadly, some people get it and others don't.
 

Zebo

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My comments were meant for Jules. And after Pledging, never heard of Initiation?

I went trough initiation again bias. some reason no one cut me I wish they had. Check ut delta tau at calpoly we were banned.
 

Zebo

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You don't know what hazing is then. Reading a follow-up article, the freshman were willing participants, laughed and found it funny. One overzealous dad decided a pie was a dangerous weapon. The parents of the other freshman requested that no punishment be given to the others as it was all meant in fun. Sadly, some people get it and others don't.
you don't know shit. you think you do but most people don't like to see their children abused nowadays. Id say a broken nose for a girl in soccer Practice is abusive. I don't give a fuck what 4/5 narcissistic pukes have to say, make it 99/100 and busting noses in girls soccer practice anit right. Everyone nose this.
 

IcePickFreak

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you don't know shit. you think you do but most people don't like to see their children abused nowadays. Id say a broken nose for a girl in soccer Practice is abusive. I don't give a fuck what 4/5 narcissistic pukes have to say, make it 99/100 and busting noses in girls soccer practice anit right. Everyone nose this.

Whoa, it went from a bloody nose to a broken nose now? Did they have cast iron pie "tins"?
 

Capt Caveman

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you don't know shit. you think you do but most people don't like to see their children abused nowadays. Id say a broken nose for a girl in soccer Practice is abusive. I don't give a fuck what 4/5 narcissistic pukes have to say, make it 99/100 and busting noses in girls soccer practice anit right. Everyone nose this.

Shouldn't you go to bed and let the alcohol wear off?

But yes, a soccer ball to the face is more dangerous than a pie. Soccer should be banned!!!!

Want to hear something hilarious? The lawyer that filed the restraining order to allow the girls to play in the soccer game was the father who originally filed the complaint. His daughter not only got pie in her face and on her boots but will now be ostracized at school. Good job dad!!!
 

alkemyst

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The private high school I went to had freshman hazing then any sport you go into will have hazing of some sort. I'm surprised many of you have never gone through any type of hazing.

When I join a team, I haze them.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Girls do stupid things to haze the members of their "team." I'll never understand some of the stupid crap that I heard of girls doing to their new members. 90% of it was just humiliating or harmful and not team building at all.

The whole point of initiation's is to instantly bond the new members of a team, not to drag them around by their necks and hit them in the face with pies. How does that make the girls want to be a part of a team?

We had an initiation on our college sports team and it was all about team building and getting the new members of the team to interact with each other and their older teammates. Scavenger hunts for things owned by certain team members, quizzes on how well they knew their team statistics/records and soon to be teammates (after being given the information), and a big party with the new people as the centerpiece to make them all feel welcome to the organization. Sure there were a few stupid things we did like blindfold them and drive them around in the back of a big 15 passenger van to an "undisclosed location" but we never did anything to harm them or humiliate them.
 

Ninjahedge

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Hazing is meant to show your devotion and desire to be a part of a SOCIAL organization.

Hazing for sports, outside of brutal practice regimens, is pointless.

Hazing for the military is more of a psycological breaking down of the subject intended to not only see what is inside, but make individuals fit better in to the grand scheme. You sdon't want individual cogs and gears in your machine because you would not be able to function when you lose them.

The main problem with Hazing occurs when the Haze-ers lose sight of what it is really for, a test of devotion, and simply want to humiliate someone else to make themselves feel bigger and better.

BTW Perk, YOU were lucky! We had to get up at 5 in the morning, half an hour before we went to bed!!!!!!
 

preCRT

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Sure there were a few stupid things we did like blindfold them and drive them around in the back of a big 15 passenger van to an "undisclosed location" but we never did anything to harm them or humiliate them.
I remember an incident, years ago, of 2 frats taking blindfolded male students out in vans, in late fall/early winter [it was just barely snowing, iirc]. Demanding the guys strip naked, then dumping them at 2am, blindfolded, naked & drunk out in the boonies of western MA on deserted highways several hours drive away from campus. Why the hell any of those idiots wanted to still join those moronic frats was beyond rational explanation.
 

Ninjahedge

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So they could do it to someone else next year?


No, it is because of insecurity and the need for a social contact/group to belong to. Pack instinct.

Sometimes the promise of friends is stronger than any other in life. Stronger than money or sex in certain situations....
 
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