Wusthof or Henkels knives?

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: aphex
Ok well i had a chance to try them out today.... As i noted earlier, I get 40% off at Williams-Sonoma and we have nearly $200 in giftcards, so we are only looking at the models they carry...

The globals were nice, but i didnt care for the all metal handle, it was just not comfortable for me. Ended up liking the feel of the Wustof Classic and the Henkels Professional S. The Shun Onions were beautiful as well, but were $150 more for the same # of knives, just didn't know if the price diff was worth it.

How did you feel about the Shun grips? I like the handles on the Wusthof Classic series a lot...the Shuns seem like they would be harder to grip because of the cylindrical design.

It "fit" my hand better, the Shuns that is. But overall, i preferred the weight/balance of the Wustof's.

 

[Howard]

http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/ChineseCleaver.html

 

[Vic]

There is always a lot of confusion about Henckels, so let me clear it up.

Zwilling J.A. Henckels = high quality knives, more than adequate for ANY home kitchen, at very reasonable prices. I have a set and love them. Professional chefs might need something more durable, but most any home cooking enthusiast, right up to the Alton Brown level, should be more than happy with them.

J.A. Henckels International = bargain brand. Good quality though for those who are not serious about cooking but want a decent usable set in the kitchen for those times when they need them.

 

[sygyzy]

To add to Vic's statement, one major difference is forged versus stamped.

 

[elektrolokomotive]

I would never buy a knife set, except for maybe steak knives. I have a bunch of knives of various brands that I've picked up over the years for specific applications, always trying them out before committing. My favorite? A 6" Sabatier chef's knife I picked up back in 1984.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Vic
There is always a lot of confusion about Henckels, so let me clear it up.

Zwilling J.A. Henckels = high quality knives, more than adequate for ANY home kitchen, at very reasonable prices. I have a set and love them. Professional chefs might need something more durable, but most any home cooking enthusiast, right up to the Alton Brown level, should be more than happy with them.

J.A. Henckels International = bargain brand. Good quality though for those who are not serious about cooking but want a decent usable set in the kitchen for those times when they need them.

I think its the Zwilling they sell at WS...

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: Apex


Indeed, blades from those steels do tend to cost more.

I picked up the Twin Cermax M66 Santoku for about $150 including a Henckels block and cutting board. They're pretty much the cheapest Cowry-X or ZDP-189 blades around.

What store? That's a decent price with the accessories?

I purchased it from Cutlery & More about a year ago. They're a bit more expensive now (there are probably cheaper options).

http://www.cutleryandmore.com/prodlist.asp?BrandID=2&LineID=203

$189.95 with free shipping. Free Henckels 10-slot knife block with $99+ Henckels knife purchase. Free Henckels bamboo cutting board with $199+ Henckels purchase. Free Henckels silicon hot pad/trivet with $199+ Henckels purchase.

 

[fire400]

cutco sh^t is expensive but they claim your stuff can get sharpend for free by reps and can get stuff replaced even if you damage them and they won't say anything about it or even charge after you buy it the first time except for shipping costs.

they are easily excellent knives but some people say they're ugly and old-people knives.

but as far as cutco though, somewhat deceptive but accelerating marketting schemes, tounge-catching sale pitches, crappy hiring process, but in the end... (DRUMS ROLLING)

... - businesses fight to stay alive and well through any kind of economy.

"...cut through any kind of economy."

 

[Raincity]

Originally posted by: luckydragon
where is the best place to buy global knives?

Amazon

 

[Howard]

I'd take Messermeister over both, actually.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: fire400
cutco sh^t is expensive but they claim your stuff can get sharpend for free by reps and can get stuff replaced even if you damage them and they won't say anything about it or even charge after you buy it the first time except for shipping costs.

they are easily excellent knives but some people say they're ugly and old-people knives.

but as far as cutco though, somewhat deceptive but accelerating marketting schemes, tounge-catching sale pitches, crappy hiring process, but in the end... (DRUMS ROLLING)

... - businesses fight to stay alive and well through any kind of economy.

"...cut through any kind of economy."

also fucking thread revival man

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: fire400
cutco sh^t is expensive but they claim your stuff can get sharpend for free by reps and can get stuff replaced even if you damage them and they won't say anything about it or even charge after you buy it the first time except for shipping costs.

they are easily excellent knives but some people say they're ugly and old-people knives.

but as far as cutco though, somewhat deceptive but accelerating marketting schemes, tounge-catching sale pitches, crappy hiring process, but in the end... (DRUMS ROLLING)

... - businesses fight to stay alive and well through any kind of economy.

"...cut through any kind of economy."

also fucking thread revival man

no shit.

and for what? that bump post makes me

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
I've never used a better steak knife than Cutco's. It really is quite awesome.

You should try to score some Tramontina Porterhouse Steak Knives

http://www.amazon.com/Tramonti...e-Wooden/dp/B000ZMDQQI

I paid a lot less for them from Sams club though. But I think it was one of those one time imports, never saw them again.

I got 8 knives +block for C40

http://www.amazon.com/Tramonti...&qid=1236683621&sr=1-2

better link, no block, but 8 steakknives knives for 25 ain't bad.


never mind, just saw this is a very late thread bump.

 

[OpenThirdEye]

Save yourself a crapton of money and get a set of Globals.

 

[lxskllr]

I use Henkel 4 star knives. I also have a Chinese chef knife that's a pos, but is very handy, and a ulu knife which works well for certain tasks.

 

[allisolm]

PSA - this is a revival of a very old thread.
Moderator allisolm

 

[Ctrackstar126]

I had the wusthof classic knives but tried out the shun set and never looked back. I also had a global chefs knife and it was up there with the shun.

 

[KeithTalent]

Henckel is shit now. I have a set we got as a wedding gift and never use them for anything.

KT

 

[alkemyst]

most people just waste there money on expensive knifes and cookware. It'd pay to learn to cook first then buy what you THINK you'll need.

I picked up some out of production Sabatiers a while ago. Not their consumer line. Great knives that my wife uses everyday along with a Santoku by Mac? not sure. She uses her Santoku properly though being she is Japanese and cooks accordingly. Everyone we know has one because they 'look cool' and use them wrong.

What's really funny is those that say certain knifes from upper manufacturers are 'unusable'. What really makes for a higher end knife is mostly for longer lasting edges...you can practically sharpen a piece of steel and have a good enough knife to thinly slice even tomatoes and fish for a couple passes.

Then most pick the wrong type of cutting board and end up working against themselves anyway.

 

[Ns1]

fail, see below.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: sygyzy
To add to Vic's statement, one major difference is forged versus stamped.

to add to this statement, zwilling ja henckels (forged) has a guy with a spear, the henckels international logo has 2 guys.

I thought Zwilling has the 2 guys, and international has spear guy?

My parents work near the Zwilling J.A. Henckels in Hawthorne, NY. I have a set of their knives (got them cheaper during an annual sale), and they have worked well over past 4 years or so. I'm not an expert in knives, though, and I can't comment on them vs Wusthof or other brands.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Crono
I thought Zwilling has the 2 guys, and international has spear guy?

lmao, fail on my part

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[dakels]

Originally posted by: Vic
There is always a lot of confusion about Henckels, so let me clear it up.

Zwilling J.A. Henckels = high quality knives, more than adequate for ANY home kitchen, at very reasonable prices. I have a set and love them. Professional chefs might need something more durable, but most any home cooking enthusiast, right up to the Alton Brown level, should be more than happy with them.

J.A. Henckels International = bargain brand. Good quality though for those who are not serious about cooking but want a decent usable set in the kitchen for those times when they need them.

This is one of the most important things to say about this discussion. Both companies of course make varying degrees of quality but Henckels varies A LOT. The cheaper set is really crappy and made in different factories, processes, and styles. It may as well be a different company. The higher end henckels knives are very nice. I have to say that even though I own mostly Henckels, I think I prefer the Wustof I used due to their heavier weight. It's more of a personal preference. My favorite knife is a 12" chef knife with no name. All I know is that it's pretty old, possible german, and my brother in law gave it to me when he sold his restaurant. I need to have it professionally sharpened. I have been using an Japanese waterstone but it's not the same.

 

[JDub02]

Just go look for a high carbon stainless steel knife with a full tang and a comfortable handle. Anything more expensive than the cheapest one you can find is a waste of money.

How you keep them is far more important than the brand. If you keep the edge honed, the brand name on the side doesn't matter much.

 

[qaa541]

My fiancee and I love our Shun Classic set. They are Japanese knives that fit our hands better (we have average-small hands) and are light. We tried Henckels and Wusthof and we found them to be a bit heavy.

*ANY* knife is better than the cheap $2 Ikea knives we were using before that would squish a tomato rather than cut it.