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smackababy

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thoughts on hd 5000 and diablo 3?

I played a bit of D3 on a HD 4000 and it wasn't "awful" but group play gets a bit laggy. Especially, if you have some effect heavy players spamming. Like a CM wiz or something. For solo play, it should be smooth at medium / low settings depending on resolution.
 

GWestphal

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So was that the new iPhone design during the keynote, that all aluminum dealy bobber without a physical home button, or is that what the iPhone dev simulator looks like?
 

Patranus

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Icons in iOS are horrendous.
GUI looks nice
VoIP over Facetime is HUGE.

Multi-monitors is welcome.
Maps/Calendar update is HUGE upgrade.
Quick reply in OSX but not iOS?????

Also LOVE the car integration. Long time coming.

Oh, and anyone else notice that tag searching brought iCloud documents into a finder window?
Interested to see if they added more DropBox like functionality.
 
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Childs

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Jul 9, 2000
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Did anyone catch the URL of that website with the animated periodic table of elements? Looked kinda cool.

 
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OBLAMA2009

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wwdc sucked as bad as google i/o. nothing really exciting, just haswell refresh and basically a newly skinned ios
 

mchammer187

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Not a big fan of the new IOS icons. More the color palette than the look though. Other than that I like everything I see.
 
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I know the Retina machines are pretty new but I find it surprising they didn't announce Haswell versions. The 13" one, in particular, should benefit hugely from the improvement in unified graphics.
 

boomhower

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Sep 13, 2007
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Keychain has me pretty stoked, of course after I bought 1password last week. Pages inside of folders is a very welcome addition, having three game folders etc. is just stupid. I do like the overall look but it seems very androidy. Overall I'm very excited about iOS 7, I think more than I was about the iPhone 5. I like some of the things in Maverick but it was a little more ho hum for me.
 

Childs

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Not a big fan of the new IOS icons. More the color palette than the look though. Other than that I like everything I see.

Yeah, too much pink, purple, yellow and green. The font they chose also seems kinda...thin. Kinda reminds of Windows. It would be nice if you could change the font and the theme.
 
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ultimatebob

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Jul 1, 2001
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Most of the iOS improvements are nice, but why did Apple feel the need to make a Pandora clone??
 

manly

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Refurb base Air 13" is $849.

Is $250 difference enough to justify getting the Haswell procs and great battery life? Hmmm.

I don't have 802.11ac yet and don't know if HD5000 is much better than HD4000.

Disappointed somewhat at no Haswell MBP.
conservatively, that's just $80 a year difference. Go for the better GPU and battery life.

Haswell rMBPs will be out sooner rather than later. rMBP are a niche product right now and even though it's officially a developer's conference, it makes sense for them to try to make a splash with the mainstream MBA announcement.

So they did away with the big cats names.


http://www.apple.com/osx/preview/
Well they've nearly ran out of big cats. They could've gone with Cougar, which is a synonym of puma, panther, and mountain lion.

Clouded Leopard probably would not be a "good"/"strong" name for a product although maybe it has great iCloud implications.

I don't know, Mavericks doesn't really sound like a great marketing name, but more like an internal code name. Maybe they should have gone with Cougar for one last 10.x release and then made a switch for OS X 11, or OS XI 11.0 or whatever it'll be called.
 

TheStu

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conservatively, that's just $80 a year difference. Go for the better GPU and battery life.

Haswell rMBPs will be out sooner rather than later. rMBP are a niche product right now and even though it's officially a developer's conference, it makes sense for them to try to make a splash with the mainstream MBA announcement.


Well they've nearly ran out of big cats. They could've gone with Cougar, which is a synonym of puma, panther, and mountain lion.

Clouded Leopard probably would not be a "good"/"strong" name for a product although maybe it has great iCloud implications.

I don't know, Mavericks doesn't really sound like a great marketing name, but more like an internal code name. Maybe they should have gone with Cougar for one last 10.x release and then made a switch for OS X 11, or OS XI 11.0 or whatever it'll be called.

My buddy bet me $5 before 10.6 came out that it would be called 'Ocelot', then with 10.7 he doubled down. He doubled down again with 10.8, and finally today I collected.
 

TridenT

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Most of the iOS improvements are nice, but why did Apple feel the need to make a Pandora clone??

I'm seriously considering their Pandora clone. It's $25/yr for advertisement free and it's built-in. It should work much better than Pandora's slow as fuck Pandora app (I spend over 10 seconds waiting for that app to load). Pandora is significantly more. ($3.99/month. Not much less for a year)
 

sxr7171

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Jun 21, 2002
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wwdc sucked as bad as google i/o. nothing really exciting, just haswell refresh and basically a newly skinned ios

I have to agree. iOS 7 was supposed to be a "complete redesign". Very underwhelming IMHO. The OS is also starting to get buggy as it ages. Wifi issues and what not. I don't want an OS that is old and buggy because they kept adding features to it. I buy this stuff so it doesn't behave like a buggy Microsoft product. A new OS needs to be built from the ground up. I know I'm saying this like it's nothing. It's a lot of work. But these products cost a lot of money. And the OS goes onto products that generate hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue over years.
 

sxr7171

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Jun 21, 2002
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I'm seriously considering their Pandora clone. It's $25/yr for advertisement free and it's built-in. It should work much better than Pandora's slow as fuck Pandora app (I spend over 10 seconds waiting for that app to load). Pandora is significantly more. ($3.99/month. Not much less for a year)

Yeah it's a good feature. I already use iTunes Match so it's free and that's great. But they could just have a premium subscription option like MOG or Spotify. I hope that's next.

But I doubt it's coming soon. They really want you to buy your music piecemeal. Well I'm not made of money and I've never seen anyone who is. Sooner or later just like they were pushed into the iPad mini market the market will force their hand. People don't want to pay $12 an album when services offer unlimited music for $10/month. Enjoy the music sales revenues while they last Apple but don't count on it for too long.
 
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sxr7171

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Jun 21, 2002
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conservatively, that's just $80 a year difference. Go for the better GPU and battery life.

Haswell rMBPs will be out sooner rather than later. rMBP are a niche product right now and even though it's officially a developer's conference, it makes sense for them to try to make a splash with the mainstream MBA announcement.


Well they've nearly ran out of big cats. They could've gone with Cougar, which is a synonym of puma, panther, and mountain lion.

Clouded Leopard probably would not be a "good"/"strong" name for a product although maybe it has great iCloud implications.

I don't know, Mavericks doesn't really sound like a great marketing name, but more like an internal code name. Maybe they should have gone with Cougar for one last 10.x release and then made a switch for OS X 11, or OS XI 11.0 or whatever it'll be called.

Sticking with cats for 10.x would have made sense. Even of they went with pussy cat.




J/k





One last point about iOS. It somewhat upsets me that finally they decided to have users log in to wipe the device or disable find my iphone as an option. Having lost 2 iPhones in the post "find my iPhone" era I can say the feature was worthless. Finally the anti theft features have some teeth. Before it was a marketing feature at best. Everyone and their mother basically knew how what to do with a stolen iPhone or knew someone who knew what to do with it.
 
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Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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I know the Retina machines are pretty new but I find it surprising they didn't announce Haswell versions. The 13" one, in particular, should benefit hugely from the improvement in unified graphics.
They'll be updated sooner rather than later. The GPU on the Airs is now better than the low end Pros.
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Apple quoted 45% better GPU performance. I'd suggest you with Haswell, unless the savings are that important to you.
I'd also not suggest getting the refurb unless you're not too concerned about battery life. The MBA was already pretty good (well at least the 13") but Haswell is going to put it in a completely different league.

My buddy bet me $5 before 10.6 came out that it would be called 'Ocelot', then with 10.7 he doubled down. He doubled down again with 10.8, and finally today I collected.
They should have done one more big cat codename before retiring them. That would have made it an even 10 cats, and we could move on to OS XI.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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anyone installed ios7 on an ip4 yet or heard how it runs? i may do it tonight after the sony e3 conference or tomorrow, but curious how ti runs on the ip4. cdma on verizon if that matters at all.
 
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