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Lifer
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Yes, I'm a "dummie".
Have you even looked at your references? There's no cure, and there's no one keeping a cure from you or anyone else. And no, I'm not from the medical community or in league with the ADA. Not that it would invalidate my points even if were. Not knowing what you are talking about doesn't make you a better authority, by the way, just the opposite. Knowing how scientific research works - even possessing a basic understanding - shows you how absurd your notion of a cancer cure being withheld from us is.

You still haven't bothered to address my points, so I am going to assume you are immune to logic, are too lazy to read, or are a troll. I'm done arguing, in any case.

you are dense. you probably are the type of person who wouldn't consider any alternatives if a loved one of yours was diagnosed with this (if you even have any loved ones that is).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsSEqsGLWM

and this is a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvKQrATZ6bU

in jail for selling a possible cure. why would the FDA and any government official would block any small time guy by locking them up is beyond me?

should i provide another link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrqxAHIHXuU

the government and big pharma works hand in hand. why would someone who is profit driven release a cure that works one time when they have an unlimited revenue stream by not producing a cure?

you have no point. check out my links? did you even bother? are you rehashing bs? i can see that because you mentioned that ADA which you just rehashed from my post instead of correcting me when i meant to say the AMA. do you know the difference you ignorant fuck?
 

CottonRabbit

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you are dense. you probably are the type of person who wouldn't consider any alternatives if a loved one of yours was diagnosed with this (if you even have any loved ones that is).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsSEqsGLWM

and this is a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvKQrATZ6bU

in jail for selling a possible cure. why would the FDA and any government official would block any small time guy by locking them up is beyond me?

should i provide another link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrqxAHIHXuU

the government and big pharma works hand in hand. why would someone who is profit driven release a cure that works one time when they have an unlimited revenue stream by not producing a cure?

you have no point. check out my links? did you even bother? are you rehashing bs? i can see that because you mentioned that ADA which you just rehashed from my post instead of correcting me when i meant to say the AMA. do you know the difference you ignorant fuck?

The amount of ignorance you have demonstrated in this thread makes me certain that you will in no way be able to comprehend the following article that unequivocally disproves your conspiracy theory, but here it is anyways. You understand nothing about the scientific process, statistics, physiology, cancer pathogenesis, pharmacology or anything else that would allow you to appreciate the evidence that is presented to you here. In fact, I am certain that you will dismiss the following systematic review with another one of your conspiracy theories. Fortunately for humanity, your opinions and those of your Youtube colleagues will never have any influence in cancer treatment.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD005476.pub3/abstract

The searches up to Feb 2011 identified 69 potentially relevant references (63 for the original review and 6 for this update). After screening the titles and abstracts, we obtained full publications of 40 references for detailed evaluation. We excluded all 40 for the following reasons: not randomized (1 study), case reports (25 studies), best case series (6 studies), consecutive case series (3 studies), non-consecutive case series (2 studies), benzaldehyde treatment rather than laetrile or amygdalin (2 studies), patients with benign tumors (1 study) (Characteristics of excluded studies).

Searches of trial registries did not identify any ongoing and eligible trials in this area.

As this systematic review found no evidence from RCTs or quasi-RCTs for the use of laetrile or amygdalin in cancer treatment, nothing must be added to the conclusion of an editorial that was written after the publication of a clinical trial of amygdalin for the treatment of advanced cancer from the NCI: "(...) The evidence, beyond reasonable doubt, is that it [laetrile] doesn't benefit patients with advanced cancer, and there is no reason to believe that it would be any more effective in the earlier stages of the disease." (Relman 1982)

Our search strategy was aimed at identifying clinical trials. This approach generates little information about risks. Yet the high risk of developing serious adverse effects from cyanide poisoning after laetrile or amygdalin, especially after oral ingestion, is considerable. This risk could increase with a concomitant intake of vitamin C (Bromley 2005), in people with a genetic predisposition to a diminished capacity to detoxify cyanide (Calabrese 1979b) and in vegetarians with vitamin B12 deficiency (Chan 2006). Practitioners and patients should also be aware that cyanide poisoning could be related to overdosing and to the quality of the products available on the market. Processing conditions are the main factors affecting the quality of some Rosaceae seeds (Hu 2002; Hwang 2002), and often laetrile and amygdalin preparations come from questionable sources with no standards of quality or purity. These preparations might be mutagenic (Fenselau 1977) or could contain bacteria (Davignon 1978) and other contaminants and impurities (Dorr 1978).
 

Linux23

Lifer
Apr 9, 2000
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Yeah keep swallowing whatever pill your government and the big pharmaceutical industries shovel into your pie hole.

Why am I bothering trying to explain to a dullard.
 

Gibsons

Lifer
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Yeah keep swallowing whatever pill your government and the big pharmaceutical industries shovel into your pie hole.

Why am I bothering trying to explain to a dullard.

And you keep swallowing coffee enemas from the quacks.
 

olds

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I've been wondering lately; if a person got sick, refused treatment and died, would the life insurance be paid?
 

Linux23

Lifer
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And you keep swallowing coffee enemas from the quacks.
It's funny that decades have passed and we still have the same mentality that any other forms of alternative treatment is quackery.

People really need to see that poisoning the body isn't going to cure cancer.

However if that's your belief that the standard of care is right for you I support that. However I should have a choice on what care I want to receive if I were to get cancer and not what organized medicine tells me what I need to do.
 

Linux23

Lifer
Apr 9, 2000
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I've been wondering lately; if a person got sick, refused treatment and died, would the life insurance be paid?
Good question. I read one report that a doctor would not allow his patient to take disability if she didn't follow the standard of care.
 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
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I've been wondering lately; if a person got sick, refused treatment and died, would the life insurance be paid?

I think in some cases, they'll pay for straight up suicides. So, maybe, it depends?

It might matter if the treatment is just a 6 month extension or a potential lifelong remission.
 
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