X-Men: Days of Future Past

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HumblePie

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Spike from the X-Men Evolution series. The radioactive guy I don't know.

The guy with the eye tattoo looked liked cable. Funny thing is they showed the old man version of the same character with the eye tattoo in the intro when showing the Sentinels herding up various mutants. Then they showed up being rescued by mystique, and then watching the TV later of the events in the movie. Not sure that was Cable, but can't think of another mutant in the marvel X-Men universe that had a right eye tattoo. Only Bishop and Domino are the only mutants I can think of that have eye tats. Domino is a girl and Bishop was being used correctly in the movie mostly by the actor Omar.

The Bio-active person I don't know, and really didn't see the powers of the others in that tent besides havok, and toad. IMDB just has toad and havok listed and rest as "mutant soldier" for the characters. Still, they could just be random mutants, as the comics had a ton of those.
 
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JEDI

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age of apocalypse:
I predict this is where wolverine gets his admantium claws and skeleton.

oh, i also predict he gets turned into one of the 4 horsemen, probably WAR
 
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age of apocalypse:
I predict this is where wolverine gets his admantium claws and skeleton.

oh, i also predict he gets turned into one of the 4 horsemen, probably WAR

Haven't we already seen Wolverine get his adamantium skeleton, via flashback in X2 and Days of Future Past, and as it happened in X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Pretty sure it's been extensively covered.
 

smackababy

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Haven't we already seen Wolverine get his adamantium skeleton, via flashback in X2 and Days of Future Past, and as it happened in X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Pretty sure it's been extensively covered.

In this new continuity, it is unknown if Wolverine actually underwent the Weapon X program. In the past (DoFP), he had bone claws. We don't know what happened to Stryker and whether or not he was able to actually do the research.

Also, they've acknowledged that pretty much everything in Origins didn't happen and should be forgotten.
 

AznAnarchy99

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In this new continuity, it is unknown if Wolverine actually underwent the Weapon X program. In the past (DoFP), he had bone claws. We don't know what happened to Stryker and whether or not he was able to actually do the research.

Also, they've acknowledged that pretty much everything in Origins didn't happen and should be forgotten.

I think we all forgot Origins ourselves.
 

HumblePie

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In this new continuity, it is unknown if Wolverine actually underwent the Weapon X program. In the past (DoFP), he had bone claws. We don't know what happened to Stryker and whether or not he was able to actually do the research.

Also, they've acknowledged that pretty much everything in Origins didn't happen and should be forgotten.

Uhh, Stryker picked Wolverine out of the river at the end of the movie. Of course he would be doing it. They also made it a point to have Stryker give a good long stare at Wolverines boneclaws in the movie.

The new continuity is suppose to be closer to the actual comic book story lines from here on out I would hazard and hope to guess. Who knows though.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Uhh, Stryker picked Wolverine out of the river at the end of the movie. Of course he would be doing it. They also made it a point to have Stryker give a good long stare at Wolverines boneclaws in the movie.

The new continuity is suppose to be closer to the actual comic book story lines from here on out I would hazard and hope to guess. Who knows though.

You missed it. It was Mystique, not Stryker who picked him out of the river.
 

preslove

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Didn't x-men origins happen in the 1980s? That's a big time gap for wolverine to get his metal bone graft.
 

smackababy

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Didn't x-men origins happen in the 1980s? That's a big time gap for wolverine to get his metal bone graft.

Yes, but, the events that happened (Stryker working for Trask, having a mutant son, experimenting on mutants on his own) is likely never to happen. The government was, at least, partially involved in Stryker's operations. It is unlikely they would continue to support him with Trask (his employer) outed as a traitor.

And, we are never shown if he does get his Adamantium skeleton at the end of DoFP. It can't be that hard though, considering at the end of Wolverine he had his claws chopped off, and in DoFP future time, he had metal claws. I'm sure Magneto could easily reforge his claws, with the proper metal and motivation.
 

Ricochet

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First off, I enjoyed the movie despite the suspension of disbelief for this one is much higher than previous movies. Maybe I just have a real hard time with evolving adaptive and invincible metal monsters. T2 T-1000 mimetic polyalloy was already setting that off. (Don't even mention T3). These new Sentinels took it up well above the notch. Only slightly forgivable since it's in the Marvel Universe full of superpowered beings. Still, we're talking about human inventions here. Not mystical or magical or super alien intelligence.

It's hard to believe the event leading up to the creation of these super Sentinels. The beginning narrative told us that not only mutants are hunted but also humans carrying the gene. So even the human carriers (a group much larger than the mutant population) are rounded up. Add in a bunch of human sympathizers, you have a worldwide calamity. It's hard to imagine that none of the non-mutant super beings like the FF and Avengers would not get involved. Guys like Tony Stark and Reed Richard would not let Sentinel technology advance beyond theirs.

Despite my misgiving I do rate this among the better X-men movies.

X2 > 1st Class > DOFP > X1 > Wolverine2 > X3 > Wolverine1
 

smackababy

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First off, I enjoyed the movie despite the suspension of disbelief for this one is much higher than previous movies. Maybe I just have a real hard time with evolving adaptive and invincible metal monsters. T2 T-1000 mimetic polyalloy was already setting that off. (Don't even mention T3). These new Sentinels took it up well above the notch. Only slightly forgivable since it's in the Marvel Universe full of superpowered beings. Still, we're talking about human inventions here. Not mystical or magical or super alien intelligence.
Question: a human "evolving" and having their cells mutate to have a super power can have disbelief suspended, but harnessing the same ability in a different cellular structure can't?

It's hard to believe the event leading up to the creation of these super Sentinels. The beginning narrative told us that not only mutants are hunted but also humans carrying the gene. So even the human carriers (a group much larger than the mutant population) are rounded up. Add in a bunch of human sympathizers, you have a worldwide calamity. It's hard to imagine that none of the non-mutant super beings like the FF and Avengers would not get involved. Guys like Tony Stark and Reed Richard would not let Sentinel technology advance beyond theirs.
It didn't happen outright. The "key" (Mystique) was captured when she killed Trask. Her body was then experimented on and the key to destroying the mutants was discovered. The Sentinel program didn't advance to a level able to actually combat mutants until 50 years after. Plus, the mutants defeated in the wars are far more powerful than Iron man and the Fantastic Four. There are some cross over comics that show stuff (like one where the Hulk was in a Sentinel camp). If Hulk can be capture, nobody else really stands a chance.
 

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It's hard to imagine that none of the non-mutant super beings like the FF and Avengers would not get involved. Guys like Tony Stark and Reed Richard would not let Sentinel technology advance beyond theirs.

Despite my misgiving I do rate this among the better X-men movies.

X2 > 1st Class > DOFP > X1 > Wolverine2 > X3 > Wolverine1

Tony Stark and the Avengers do not exist in this universe (different movie studio). Perhaps the FF do, but that seems unlikely for the reasons you have stated.
 

Ricochet

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Question: a human "evolving" and having their cells mutate to have a super power can have disbelief suspended, but harnessing the same ability in a different cellular structure can't?

Yeah, I know. It's just a weird mechanism of my mind. One is easier to get over.

It didn't happen outright. The "key" (Mystique) was captured when she killed Trask. Her body was then experimented on and the key to destroying the mutants was discovered. The Sentinel program didn't advance to a level able to actually combat mutants until 50 years after. Plus, the mutants defeated in the wars are far more powerful than Iron man and the Fantastic Four. There are some cross over comics that show stuff (like one where the Hulk was in a Sentinel camp). If Hulk can be capture, nobody else really stands a chance.

Well, I'm not thinking along the lines of brute strength or power. It's usually the genius type like Reed Richard that figures out weaknesses and solution. With the world threatened, you can bet he would scheme up something. But like another poster already stated, the movie universe is completely different from the comic. In this one, other heroes are not in it.
 

smackababy

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Yeah, I know. It's just a weird mechanism of my mind. One is easier to get over.



Well, I'm not thinking along the lines of brute strength or power. It's usually the genius type like Reed Richard that figures out weaknesses and solution. With the world threatened, you can bet he would scheme up something. But like another poster already stated, the movie universe is completely different from the comic. In this one, other heroes are not in it.

Even in the comic universe(that includes characters from other comics), this happened. While, I'm sure given some time Reed Richards could probably think of something, my understand was that once the evolved Sentinels turned on, mutants were pretty powerless to stop them.
 

lupi

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Stark and the avengers do exist, and quicksilver will be in the next avengers movie.
 

HumblePie

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Played by a different actor and not referred to as a mutant.

Yah, that is what confused me big time about the movie rights deal Marvel has.

One of the rights given to movie studios, prior to Marvel owning its own movie studio, is that the movie studios that bought rights to a character would own rights to any character derived from the original character and shown on screen. Which means if Sony with the X-Men show Quicksilver first, they own the rights to him. So I am confused as hell now because Quicksilver is in X-Men and will also be in the Avengers with his sister Scarlet Witch.

As for the Stryker picking Wolverine out of the river, I didn't miss it that was Mystique. Technically as far as we "know" the work was done by "Stryker" according to the messed up limited memories of Wolverine of that time. Who is to say it wasn't Mystique the entire time acting as Stryker? That's the fun thing about the comics. They like to use shape changing mutants or mind controlling mutants to rearrange twists. Yes it is a bit of deus ex machina. But I don't mind that in comic book style story lines, if done tastefully, as I would in other stuff.
 

nageov3t

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Yah, that is what confused me big time about the movie rights deal Marvel has.

One of the rights given to movie studios, prior to Marvel owning its own movie studio, is that the movie studios that bought rights to a character would own rights to any character derived from the original character and shown on screen. Which means if Sony with the X-Men show Quicksilver first, they own the rights to him. So I am confused as hell now because Quicksilver is in X-Men and will also be in the Avengers with his sister Scarlet Witch.

they negotiated a gray area. this article has a bit more detail into which characters are covered by it -- http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=49176

one big concern was could Fox and Marvel hire the same actor to play the same character in two different universes, and I don't think that's actually been addressed yet.

on a side note, it sounds like Marvel really fucking hates Fox. I heard a rumor that they've pulled down all Fantastic Four artwork from the Marvel offices and is going to stop production of the comic series because they don't feel like it's serving any purposes other than helping a rival studio. (in the case of X-Men/Spiderman, I assume those titles are just too big of a money maker in their own right to cancel)
 

smackababy

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Yah, that is what confused me big time about the movie rights deal Marvel has.

One of the rights given to movie studios, prior to Marvel owning its own movie studio, is that the movie studios that bought rights to a character would own rights to any character derived from the original character and shown on screen. Which means if Sony with the X-Men show Quicksilver first, they own the rights to him. So I am confused as hell now because Quicksilver is in X-Men and will also be in the Avengers with his sister Scarlet Witch.
Marvel worked this out with Sony. They were allowed to use the "Quicksilver" character, they just weren't allowed to refer to him as a mutant and I'd imagine not allowed to refer to his father.

As for the Stryker picking Wolverine out of the river, I didn't miss it that was Mystique. Technically as far as we "know" the work was done by "Stryker" according to the messed up limited memories of Wolverine of that time. Who is to say it wasn't Mystique the entire time acting as Stryker? That's the fun thing about the comics. They like to use shape changing mutants or mind controlling mutants to rearrange twists. Yes it is a bit of deus ex machina. But I don't mind that in comic book style story lines, if done tastefully, as I would in other stuff.
While, it is true, Stryker could have been Mystique, it is a bit unlikely (at least, in this time line). It might have been Mystique in the previous timeline, considering she had been capture. Perhaps, some form of mind control was done over her, to impersonate Stryker and continue to conduct experiments to further the sentinel program. But, it could have been any other shape shifter for all we know. Hell, it could have been a Skrull!
 

smackababy

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they negotiated a gray area. this article has a bit more detail into which characters are covered by it -- http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=49176

one big concern was could Fox and Marvel hire the same actor to play the same character in two different universes, and I don't think that's actually been addressed yet.

on a side note, it sounds like Marvel really fucking hates Fox. I heard a rumor that they've pulled down all Fantastic Four artwork from the Marvel offices and is going to stop production of the comic series because they don't feel like it's serving any purposes other than helping a rival studio. (in the case of X-Men/Spiderman, I assume those titles are just too big of a money maker in their own right to cancel)

Article says there are some grey area characters that cross over and appear in both. Does that mean there is hope Wolverine will be in an Avengers movie? He was in the Avengers at one point!
 

nageov3t

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Article says there are some grey area characters that cross over and appear in both. Does that mean there is hope Wolverine will be in an Avengers movie? He was in the Avengers at one point!

doubtful.

Marvel and Sony seem to have an OK relationship but it sounds like there's nothing but bad blood between Marvel and Fox... the gray area is pretty much limited to minor characters unless Fox were to agree to renegotiate.

(and on a personal note, it's so hard to escape Wolverine in the comic books, it's at least having one series where he's legally forbidden from appearing)
 
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