x1800xl hits retail

[tuteja1986]

I just got one from work Gigabyte

 

[CPlusPlusGeek]

How? You work at ATi?

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: CPlusPlusGeek
How? You work at ATi?

no gigabyte ;( i wish ati

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Matt2
From the benches I saw, the $350ish 7800GT outperformed the X1800XL pretty steadily. Not good news if you're ATI trying to sell a slower card for $100 more.

From what I remember 7800GT was also introduced at the same price.

6 months ago buddy.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
X850 Crossfire card is also avail at newegg; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102611

A Crossfire board is also avail, but from a UK store..

Originally posted by: Matt2

Nvidia had the luxury if introducing cards at high price tags because there was no competition. ATI however does not have such a luxury.

NV hasnt changed the price of their cards. They set a MSRP, resellers can either choose to sell at that price, or not. Just as hopefully the X1800XL will drop soon too. ATi set the MSRP, and resellers can do the same, sell at it, higher, or lower. Hopefully it will drop. It the cards are not in any shortage, it should. newegg will let you add 99 to the cart.. so I dont see a shortage, at least from newegg.

Like many here, I wouldnt get a X1800XL at its current price. Once it drops to close to the 7800 GT it will be a viable option, imo.

It's got to hit $300 straight up before it comes to the price/performance ratio of a 7800GT. That doesn't look like it will happen for a good while.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Chocolate Pi
The way some nVidia defenders talk, it would have been better for ATI to hold back information from the consumers longer. What kind of consumers are we to point "paper launch" fingers at a company who dares to allow us reviews and information 2 days before you can buy it?

I for one am glad they told us about the XT too, even if it isn't coming for about a month; imagine how ticked off everyone would be if they kept the top model a secret, totally screwing ATI fans who bought the XL expecting the best.

Let me tell you, anyone who would have bought an XL thinking it was the best is obviously a stupid ATI fanboy who will buy an inferior product to the 7800GTX thinking it is the "best." More importantly if ATI had not shown the X1800XT it would have lost major face to nVidia. So if you think they revealed the X1800XT to please you, they didn't. They revealed it because they had to.

 

[VERTIGGO]

Can anybody speculate if the 1800 XL will be able to overclock to XT speeds? With the same number of pipes, might it be cost effective to simply drive the XL harder? Of course the clock difference is quite a large one, and the 512 VRAM already looks promising especially with new titles coming like FEAR.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: VERTIGGO
Can anybody speculate if the 1800 XL will be able to overclock to XT speeds? With the same number of pipes, might it be cost effective to simply drive the XL harder? Of course the clock difference is quite a large one, and the 512 VRAM already looks promising especially with new titles coming like FEAR.

Rumors are that the XLs are actually earlier versions of failed XTs, so untill someone actually tries it, I wouldnt put too much hope in OC'ing the XL.

Anyway, I see the XL dropping in prices soon, because I see no reason why anyone would buy it at $450 when you can get a 7800gt at $350. But it's good that it's available already, maybe the XT will also be available next month - that's the card that's actually worth buying.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Matt2
From the benches I saw, the $350ish 7800GT outperformed the X1800XL pretty steadily. Not good news if you're ATI trying to sell a slower card for $100 more.

From what I remember 7800GT was also introduced at the same price.

6 months ago buddy.

I know, did I say otherwise? From AT's real time price engine, I already see it available for less than MSRP. I hope it drops well. Good for us.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Well obviously being 2 days late, itsnt going to be good enough for the NV crew. Even though they wouldnt have bought one anyways.

Just a bitter man arent you?

No, why would I be? Its the truth, and you know it. I just said the obvious. Two days after its launch its avail, and we will here how ATi "paper launched" the XL forever.

They are also in stock at newegg. But they are price gouging as usual, up $30.

edit for link; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102610

Why would you? Only you know and with a reply like that you sound like a bitter person.

 

[Dannyevilcat]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Matt2
From the benches I saw, the $350ish 7800GT outperformed the X1800XL pretty steadily. Not good news if you're ATI trying to sell a slower card for $100 more.

From what I remember 7800GT was also introduced at the same price.

6 months ago buddy.

August 11th was 6 months ago?

 

[DRavisher]

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999
It is good news that they are finally available. Way to go NVidia for putting an end to paper launches. Way to go ATI for getting the cards out so quickly (2 days late instead of 2 or more months late).

They are still listed as unconfimed in stock for the start of november here in Norway, so the fact that ATi have shipped a few cards (anyone know how many) to the US is far from the 7800GTX launch, which was available even here at launch.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
No, why would I be? Its the truth, and you know it. I just said the obvious. Two days after its launch its avail, and we will here how ATi "paper launched" the XL forever.

i disagree. i think 2 days after launch is quite acceptable.

the xt i consider a paper launch, however. it won't be out for at least another month, and so the "launch" is really nothing more that ati PR...

They are also in stock at newegg. But they are price gouging as usual, up $30.

edit for link; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102610

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i'm really disappointed in newegg. i used to purchase almost exclusively from there, but they have been terrible when it comes to price-gouging (and rarely offer free shipping any more).

their latest is with the x800 gto2s (easily modded to 16 pipes, and almost always successfull o/c to x850xt/pe speeds), which were selling for 199-219. they raised it today to $299 - a 50% increase. absolutely asinine... needless to say, i found it elsewhere for $195, and will refrain from purshasing from newegg if at all possible.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Ronin
Ackmed:

nVidia = Flagship product available at launch
ATi = Not

There's no disputing that fact.

I never did? The other fact is, the XL is avail for purchase 2 days after it was "released". Which is what I said. ATi said that the XT wouldnt be avail for about another month. So I dont understand why you even posted that. Everyone knows this.

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

their latest is with the x800 gto2s (easily modded to 16 pipes, and almost always successfull o/c to x850xt/pe speeds), which were selling for 199-219. they raised it today to $299 - a 50% increase. absolutely asinine... needless to say, i found it elsewhere for $195, and will refrain from purshasing from newegg if at all possible.

Yep, thats how they do. When the 3500+ Whinchester came out, and got the rep for being a great overclocker, newegg hicked up the price to be $100 more than googlegears. When before, it was about the same. I hate price gouging, and will buy from anywhere other than newegg if at all possible.

 

[CaiNaM]

 

[VERTIGGO]

I'm thinking about waiting until the XT drops to 450, because that will definately rock the new titles. Doesn't the R580 need to have more pipes? These clocks are already skyrocketing. Even so, I wouldn't expect the R580 sooner than next spring or even summer, unless it's true they have been already developed, and they are part of this current product line. What would that be called, a PE? Or something else, because the chip is different?