X1900XT/XTX or 7800GTX 512mb

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Seriously, maybe it's not the best advice for a brand new poster to gamble $750+ of his money on what amounts to betting he'll remember to sell before G71 is announced. IMO,

1) if you want to buy now (not many of us want to live 5 weeks without a gaming PC) and don't want to upgrade soon, get a ~$500 X1900XT;

2) if you want to buy now but still want a 7900 when it's released in a month or two, you could probably still go with a X1900XT and not lose much money reselling, but you probably stand to risk and lose less by just getting a ~$300 7800GT and selling it for a 7900;

3) otherwise, if you can wait, then wait. There's always a better card or a better deal coming down the pipe. The only question is when you decide to jump in. 5 weeks isn't that far away if you have a half-decent card to ride until then, and it's very unlikely that X1900 prices will rise in the meantime--so, worst case, you wasted some time waiting on a X1900, but you'll pay a bit less.

Let's not get into whose marketing is dirtier, as they've both proven lamentably capable in that regard. I think a 7900, whether it be a hugely OCed 7800 or a 32-pipe at "just" 550MHz, will be quite capable of competing with and possibly outperforming a X1900 (heck, Hexus' supposed 7900 GTX 3DM06 score is nothing to sneeze at, tho we have no way of verifying it). But it's a question of waiting for possibly faster card at a possibly equal price, or just taking the plunge now. As long as you know that any PC component you buy will drop value as fast as a "new" car (car analogy = thread OVAH ), then you're good.
 

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
The lengths that some NV fans will go to even remotly suggest buying the 512MB GTX right now is hilarious.

Similar to the lengths ATI fans will go to even remotely suggest shelling out your cash right now, without seeing what a G71 will bring in a short amount of time. ATI enthusiasts waited 5 months for the X1800XT didn't they? That is a long time. It's the OP's money, not yours or anyone elses. Waiting for the G71 is the wisest choice as of today.

Reasons:
1. If rumoured specs are accurate, the G71 "should" trounce the X1900XTX.
(Worth waiting to see)
2. In six weeks time, the price of the X1900XTX could very well drop, and if the G71 does not impress, then pick up the X1900XTX (or do you think R590 will be here by then?)
3. Worst case scenario is that the OP gets the best card for his money. Without question.

Don't give me that crap about "You might as well wait forever" and never buy a card again. If it was 6 months away, I'd say spend your money now on the card you want.
Your telling the OP to put his foot down and bite the bullet and to take a chance that the X1900XTX absolutely will not be blown away in six short weeks. That I believe would be the shortest title hold in the history of vid cards. It's easy to play with someone else's money, isn't it Ackmed? You are not doing right by the OP in what you are suggesting. None of you are who suggest the X1900XTX with another card launch so close.

How come you haven't been discouraging people from buying 7800GTX cards for the last month or two since it was rumored that the R580 was coming in January? There was also quite a lot of hype about the R580 being a strong performer, but I don't recall you telling anyone to wait for it. Same for all the other Nvidia fans who are now so eager to tell everyone to wait for G71.

That's simple. The GTX512 was about to hit. R580 was a looooooooong running rumour. Everybody had strong feelings it would be another ATI paper launch. And the rumour of it STILL being 16 pipe card really sucked IMHO. Why would I tell people to wait for a card like that? Nvidia has had several successful hard launches in a row with the exception of the GTX512 for reasons that nobody knows for sure. Nvidia is being as tight lipped about G71 as they were with G70. And lo and behold, the X1900XTX isn't all that compared to what I wanted it to be. There is no harm in waiting for the G71 and to see what it IS, or ISN"T capable of.

 

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Originally posted by: SolMiester
Spoilsport!....LOL

So who has it right?

it depends on which review you look at Guru3D.com

Yeah the X1900 XTX is a fine product and although it's roughly only up to five maybe ten percent faster than a GeForce 7800 GTX 512 MB in most scenarios you need to bare one thing in mind, when more complex or simply more shaders will be used in upcoming games, this card will have the advantage for sure. And that is definitely going to happen my friends.

the x1900xtx is the better card, but it's no 7800gtx 512 killer
 

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Originally posted by: SolMiester
Spoilsport!....LOL

So who has it right?


Well both are right. The X1900 XTX isn't very much faster than the 512 GTX and in some games its slower (OGL games mainly). But you have to keep in mind the 512 GTX was an extremely high clocked card with a premium price tag to match. So if you got a $100+ cheaper mass available card like the XTX out there beating a cherry picked card that cost a lot and wasn't available in mass quantity, it's a clear win right? Even for nVidia, coming up with a refresh that pummels the 512 GTX will be difficult.
 

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Holy C__P batman!, I have just seen the results of the xbitlabs review. I thought the X1900 was supposed to be alot faster than the 512 GTX, but doesnt seem to be much in it really. The G71 is going to pumble the X1900....wahoo!

And Janoo, you are right, why buy the 512 GTX at such a price. The ATI is cheaper and the G71 is a comin!

The XTX and GTX break even overall.
LINK

The XTX however does not fair as well against a SLI GT setup that costs less.

Why get an SLI setup? You use up all your options for a further upgrade. That's comparing apples and oranges. Price wise right now the GT setup costs less for similar performance but thats the end of the line for whoever buys one. An XTX owner can get a crossfire mastercard later on.

 

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
The lengths that some NV fans will go to even remotly suggest buying the 512MB GTX right now is hilarious.

Similar to the lengths ATI fans will go to even remotely suggest shelling out your cash right now, without seeing what a G71 will bring in a short amount of time.

Before you start your rants, you may want to actually reply ontopic. You need to stop putting words in other peoples mouths.
"What I said has EVERYthing to do with the topic."

Where did I tell the OP buy anything in this thread? What I suggested was, there is very little reason to buy a 512MB GTX right now. Mostly because its far more expensive, overall slower, and less advanced. And that NV fans go to absurd lengths to suggest the 512MB GTX is even available, and should be bought.
"I didn't see you telling him NOT to buy an X1900 either. Thats against your religion."

Try again, but if you cant do better, dont expect a reply. You just cant seem to pass up a post of mine, its pretty cute actually.
"The only reason I can see you not wanting me to comment on posts of yours is because I hit nerves, every, single, time. "

edit, its called a double standard Morph, as Im sure you know. Or as I like to call it, a flip-flop. Its been happening a lot lately now that NV isnt anywhere near the (realistic) lead in the single card race.
"Blowing things out of proportion again eh? Run over to Xbit and take a gander. You border on "surreal" yourself. If you're not a paid or compensated ATI affiliate, I'll eat my hat.

 

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Originally posted by: SolMiester
As far as I remember, the GF6 & GF7 series blew away the previous generation cards, more than anyone preticted.....

Originally posted by: SolMiester
I wouldnt worry as it took them 3 series of cards (X800, X1800 &X1900) to take the single card crown anyway, let alone the dual card solution.

Have you owned any of the cards you just mentioned? I have and my X800XT PE was overall faster than my 6800GT@Ultra speeds. Are the GF6 and GF7 series cards good. Well of course but don't talk about Nivida trouncing ATI since the X800/6800 days unless you can back that up somehow.


Originally posted by: Wreckage

The XTX and GTX break even overall.
LINK

The XTX however does not fair as well against a SLI GT setup that costs less.

Most of the benchmarks I've seen that compare SLI'd 7800GTs and the X1900XTX show them as being very comparable in performance with the X1900XTX being overall faster. As far as price goes, how come everyone seems to forget the X1900XT which is within a few percent of the XTX yet costs much less than two 7800GTs?
 

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: SolMiester
As far as I remember, the GF6 & GF7 series blew away the previous generation cards, more than anyone preticted.....

Originally posted by: SolMiester
I wouldnt worry as it took them 3 series of cards (X800, X1800 &X1900) to take the single card crown anyway, let alone the dual card solution.

Have you owned any of the cards you just mentioned? I have and my X800XT PE was overall faster than my 6800GT@Ultra speeds. Are the GF6 and GF7 series cards good. Well of course but don't talk about Nivida trouncing ATI since the X800/6800 days unless you can back that up somehow.


Originally posted by: Wreckage

The XTX and GTX break even overall.
LINK

The XTX however does not fair as well against a SLI GT setup that costs less.

Most of the benchmarks I've seen that compare SLI'd 7800GTs and the X1900XTX show them as being very comparable in performance with the X1900XTX being overall faster. As far as price goes, how come everyone seems to forget the X1900XT which is within a few percent of the XTX yet costs much less than two 7800GTs?


Yeah so far every single XT owner I've seen has easily surpassed stock XTX speeds.
 

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Originally posted by: CKXP
the x1900xtx is the better card, but it's no 7800gtx 512 killer

I can agree on that. (I'd still rather have 512s in SLI than Crossfire anything at this point though!)
 

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
The lengths that some NV fans will go to even remotly suggest buying the 512MB GTX right now is hilarious.

Similar to the lengths ATI fans will go to even remotely suggest shelling out your cash right now, without seeing what a G71 will bring in a short amount of time.

Before you start your rants, you may want to actually reply ontopic. You need to stop putting words in other peoples mouths.
"What I said has EVERYthing to do with the topic."

Where did I tell the OP buy anything in this thread? What I suggested was, there is very little reason to buy a 512MB GTX right now. Mostly because its far more expensive, overall slower, and less advanced. And that NV fans go to absurd lengths to suggest the 512MB GTX is even available, and should be bought.
"I didn't see you telling him NOT to buy an X1900 either. Thats against your religion."

Try again, but if you cant do better, dont expect a reply. You just cant seem to pass up a post of mine, its pretty cute actually.
"The only reason I can see you not wanting me to comment on posts of yours is because I hit nerves, every, single, time. "

edit, its called a double standard Morph, as Im sure you know. Or as I like to call it, a flip-flop. Its been happening a lot lately now that NV isnt anywhere near the (realistic) lead in the single card race.
"Blowing things out of proportion again eh? Run over to Xbit and take a gander. You border on "surreal" yourself. If you're not a paid or compensated ATI affiliate, I'll eat my hat.


Why wait on the G71? What gurantee do you have it will be what the rumors claim with mass availability? Lets go by recent track records: 512 GTX was a phantom card and that was nVidia's latest high end card. The X1900 XT/XTX are out there in mass quantity for reasonable prices and are a perfect buy. When the G71 arrives, we could use your argument and say, "hey wait a sec, why get the G71? Rumors have it an R590 will be out in a few months that will trample it." and so on. There aren't even any credible rumors for G71 out there, wasn't HKEPC one of the sites that mentioned the 32 pipe G71 at 700+ mhz? From what I remember, HKEPC claimed they had an R520 sample card with 32 pipelines...LOL.
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Why get an SLI setup? You use up all your options for a further upgrade. That's comparing apples and oranges. Price wise right now the GT setup costs less for similar performance but thats the end of the line for whoever buys one. An XTX owner can get a crossfire mastercard later on.
It's less expensive than a XTX.
People who got these last year still have a top performer.
Tracking down a "MasterCard" for xfire may be difficult and expensive, unlike SLI where you can slap in ANY similar card.
Many people don't upgrade to SLI they start with SLI. So it does not hurt their upgrade option, they can just buy 2 G80s. Not too mention most people getting a XTX don't have a crossfire motherboard.
But, if you must upgrade. People who have 1 7800GT can pass the XTX for $280 or less.

The mere fact that a Dual GT setup from 6 months ago is just as good or better than the brand new XTX, shows how succesful SLI is.
 

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Why get an SLI setup? You use up all your options for a further upgrade. That's comparing apples and oranges. Price wise right now the GT setup costs less for similar performance but thats the end of the line for whoever buys one. An XTX owner can get a crossfire mastercard later on.
It's less expensive than a XTX.
People who got these last year still have a top performer.
Tracking down a "MasterCard" for xfire may be difficult and expensive, unlike SLI where you can slap in ANY similar card.
Many people don't upgrade to SLI they start with SLI. So it does not hurt their upgrade option, they can just buy 2 G80s. Not too mention most people getting a XTX don't have a crossfire motherboard.
But, if you must upgrade. People who have 1 7800GT can pass the XTX for $280 or less.

The mere fact that a Dual GT setup from 6 months ago is just as good or better than the brand new XTX, shows how succesful SLI is.


Six months ago people didn't pay $280 for a GT. Your argument makes no sense, people start with SLI? Which people? Even the majority of enthusiasts use a single card, not dual card setups. As for having to buy a crossfire board, what is to stop us from selling our NF4 boards and picking one up? I know I'll be doing that as soon as RD580 is released. You also neglected to consider the X1900 XT, $100+ cheaper than an XTX and so far has a 100% rate of surpassing stock XTX clocks. Besides, why shell out $600 for yesterdays technology? GT's are old hat, they don't have angle independent AF or HDR+AA.
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
The lengths that some NV fans will go to even remotly suggest buying the 512MB GTX right now is hilarious.

Similar to the lengths ATI fans will go to even remotely suggest shelling out your cash right now, without seeing what a G71 will bring in a short amount of time.

Before you start your rants, you may want to actually reply ontopic. You need to stop putting words in other peoples mouths.
"What I said has EVERYthing to do with the topic."

Where did I tell the OP buy anything in this thread? What I suggested was, there is very little reason to buy a 512MB GTX right now. Mostly because its far more expensive, overall slower, and less advanced. And that NV fans go to absurd lengths to suggest the 512MB GTX is even available, and should be bought.
"I didn't see you telling him NOT to buy an X1900 either. Thats against your religion."

Try again, but if you cant do better, dont expect a reply. You just cant seem to pass up a post of mine, its pretty cute actually.
"The only reason I can see you not wanting me to comment on posts of yours is because I hit nerves, every, single, time. "

edit, its called a double standard Morph, as Im sure you know. Or as I like to call it, a flip-flop. Its been happening a lot lately now that NV isnt anywhere near the (realistic) lead in the single card race.
"Blowing things out of proportion again eh? Run over to Xbit and take a gander. You border on "surreal" yourself. If you're not a paid or compensated ATI affiliate, I'll eat my hat.


Why wait on the G71? What gurantee do you have it will be what the rumors claim with mass availability? Lets go by recent track records: 512 GTX was a phantom card and that was nVidia's latest high end card. The X1900 XT/XTX are out there in mass quantity for reasonable prices and are a perfect buy. When the G71 arrives, we could use your argument and say, "hey wait a sec, why get the G71? Rumors have it an R590 will be out in a few months that will trample it." and so on. There aren't even any credible rumors for G71 out there, wasn't HKEPC one of the sites that mentioned the 32 pipe G71 at 700+ mhz? From what I remember, HKEPC claimed they had an R520 sample card with 32 pipelines...LOL.

Wow, you don't read. You skim. I said in a post above "with the exception of GTX512". Track Record!?! You call ONE hard launch from ATI a track record? I call that a single step in the right direction bud. Give me what you're smoking. Maybe I'll start thinking like you do.

 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Six months ago people didn't pay $280 for a GT.
They are now.

People start with SLI? Which people? Even the majority of enthusiasts use a single card, not dual card setups.
You need to read more forums than this one. Maybe to you an "enthusiast" uses on board video. Upper high end would be SLI (just look at the numbers). I know you got banned at Hardforum but there are plenty of SLI users in the "show off your video card thread".

As for having to buy a crossfire board, what is to stop us from selling our NF4 boards and picking one up? I know I'll be doing that as soon as RD580 is released.
What a pain in the ass, for little performance gain. If you waited for the RD580, you may as well wait for the G71 which should be the better solution and you won't have to gut your computer.

You also neglected to consider the X1900 XT, $100+ cheaper than an XTX and so far has a 100% rate of surpassing stock XTX clocks. Besides, why shell out $600 for yesterdays technology? GT's are old hat, they don't have angle independent AF or HDR+AA.
That's right you can only overclock ATI cards, how did I miss that "fact" :roll:

Again please go to other forums where overclocking is the focus of the site and you will see NVIDIA cards overclock just as well as ATI cards.

 

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Joker, for a 6 month old core, that card is not far behind the X1900, and even best it on some. I dont think ATI did a convincing enough job there mate, yes its the fastest card, but I dont know why people are so exicited about it.
Looks to me like ATI stole the crown off Nvidia rather than buying it!
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Holy C__P batman!, I have just seen the results of the xbitlabs review. I thought the X1900 was supposed to be alot faster than the 512 GTX, but doesnt seem to be much in it really. The G71 is going to pumble the X1900....wahoo!

And Janoo, you are right, why buy the 512 GTX at such a price. The ATI is cheaper and the G71 is a comin!

Now go look at the Firingsquad review.

IMO, the Xbit article doesn't show the 512GTX in a very good light at all. Granted, when you look at ALL of the benchmarks at 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF, it wins just as much as it loses, with both cards averaging 16% more performance on the games they win on.... but compare the games. COD2, FEAR, BF2... arguably the most popular games out there, and the ATI card wins by a very large margin. That's not to take anything away from nV's large wins in Warhammer, Pacific Fighters and Snowblind... but I wouldn't consider those games as popular as the other 3. But for the user out there that only plays those, by all means, grab the fastest nV card you can get your hands on.

This entire thread has been arguing back and forth about which card is the better card, and waiting to see other cards, etc. Most everybody has ignored what the original poster asked.... this isn't about which card is the best overall and why. It's about which card is the best for him. That may not be the same as the best card for you.

Everyone is so quick to try to prove their opinion as "right". Take a step back, put yourself in the OP's shoes, and base your advice on his setup, preferences, monitor, choice of games, budget, and timeframe. I think many of you will realize just how much more helpful you can be to one another if you try that versus pissing match after pissing match.

Eh, what the hell do I know anyway. At least we have an nV vs ATI thread that has gone on for over 100 posts and nobody has mentioned AEG or a 5800ultra... I think that's a record. Well, I guess I just did. Where's that backspace key?
 

n7

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This thread is hilarious.

I didn't think it was possible to make yourself look quite so ridiculously foolish, but a certain someone certainly has accomplished that :laugh:
 

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Originally posted by: n7
This thread is hilarious.

I didn't think it was possible to make yourself look quite so ridiculously foolish, but a certain someone certainly has accomplished that :laugh:

Is it the guy who paid $500-$600 for the world's fourth fastest card only to see it disowned by the manutacturer within 60 days so he can watch it's value plummet, n7?
 

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First off, i didn't state any names, but i guess you assumed it was you :laugh:

Secondly, i paid $375 CND aka $320 US for my X1800XT, cheaper than i can get 7800GTs for here, so sorry, nice try...but no dice
I could sell it a few months later & still make money off my card
 

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Holy C__P batman!, I have just seen the results of the xbitlabs review. I thought the X1900 was supposed to be alot faster than the 512 GTX, but doesnt seem to be much in it really. The G71 is going to pumble the X1900....wahoo!

And Janoo, you are right, why buy the 512 GTX at such a price. The ATI is cheaper and the G71 is a comin!

Now go look at the Firingsquad review.

IMO, the Xbit article doesn't show the 512GTX in a very good light at all. Granted, when you look at ALL of the benchmarks at 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF, it wins just as much as it loses, with both cards averaging 16% more performance on the games they win on.... but compare the games. COD2, FEAR, BF2... arguably the most popular games out there, and the ATI card wins by a very large margin. That's not to take anything away from nV's large wins in Warhammer, Pacific Fighters and Snowblind... but I wouldn't consider those games as popular as the other 3.

That's a very good point. Besides Quake 4, the games the nVidia cards excel at aren't very popular. Who the hell plays Snowblind? I can't say I've even heard of the game. Warhammer I know is some RTS game but still not very popular and Pacific Fighters, well we all know how craptastic that game is.

This entire thread has been arguing back and forth about which card is the better card, and waiting to see other cards, etc. Most everybody has ignored what the original poster asked.... this isn't about which card is the best overall and why. It's about which card is the best for him. That may not be the same as the best card for you.

Everyone is so quick to try to prove their opinion as "right". Take a step back, put yourself in the OP's shoes, and base your advice on his setup, preferences, monitor, choice of games, budget, and timeframe. I think many of you will realize just how much more helpful you can be to one another if you try that versus pissing match after pissing match.

Eh, what the hell do I know anyway. At least we have an nV vs ATI thread that has gone on for over 100 posts and nobody has mentioned AEG or a 5800ultra... I think that's a record. Well, I guess I just did. Where's that backspace key?

Agreed, but nV vs. ATi threads can be fun at times.
 

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Originally posted by: Wreckage

You need to read more forums than this one. Maybe to you an "enthusiast" uses on board video. Upper high end would be SLI (just look at the numbers). I know you got banned at Hardforum but there are plenty of SLI users in the "show off your video card thread".

I read plenty of forums and the vast majority of people that buy $350+ cards only use one. Feel free to do a poll on it if you wish. Like I told you, why waste $600 on older cards that limit your upgrade path? It's better to get a single card like the X1900XT that performs on par, costs less and can be coupled to a master card 6 months from now. If you can wait 6 months to SLI a GT for cheap, then you can likewise do the same for the XT.
What a pain in the ass, for little performance gain. If you waited for the RD580, you may as well wait for the G71 which should be the better solution and you won't have to gut your computer.

Its not a pain at all. Simply sell the NF4 board, put in the difference for RD580, swap it out and you're done for at least another year.

That's right you can only overclock ATI cards, how did I miss that "fact" :roll:

Again please go to other forums where overclocking is the focus of the site and you will see NVIDIA cards overclock just as well as ATI cards.

Guess the point went right over your head. For a card like the XT that costs $100+ less and has a slightly lower clock than the top-of-the-line XTX, it is essentially guranteed to reach XTX speeds yet still be cheaper and more effective than dealing with an SLI setup using two old gen cards.

 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Besides Quake 4, the games the nVidia cards excel at aren't very popular. Who the hell plays Snowblind?
Ah yes while the XTX does well in suc "new" games as HL2, Far Cry & Minesweeper.

It's becoming very clear that unless ATI has some sort of driver profile for a game it just does not do well.

Anytime a game is benchmarked that's not the same 4 or 5 games that every single site benchmarks the ATI card falls behind. AOEIII, Black & White 2, Guild Wars, etc.

Unless you only plan to play the top 2 or 3 first person shooters for the year or 3Dmark, ATI really starts to fall back.
 

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Besides Quake 4, the games the nVidia cards excel at aren't very popular. Who the hell plays Snowblind?
Ah yes while the XTX does well in suc "new" games as HL2, Far Cry & Minesweeper.

It's becoming very clear that unless ATI has some sort of driver profile for a game it just does not do well.

Anytime a game is benchmarked that's not the same 4 or 5 games that every single site benchmarks the ATI card falls behind. AOEIII, Black & White 2, Guild Wars, etc.

Unless you only plan to play the top 2 or 3 first person shooters for the year or 3Dmark, ATI really starts to fall back.



Interesting you say that. I downloaded the TimeShift demo tonight, ran it 1680x1050, max details, 4x AAA/16x HQ AF and got 60+ fps most of the time. You don't think nVidia has driver profiles for games?
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Interesting you say that. I downloaded the TimeShift demo tonight, ran it 1680x1050, max details, 4x AAA/16x HQ AF and got 60+ fps most of the time. You don't think nVidia has driver profiles for games?

 
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