X1950 Pro AGP is coming!

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: apoppin
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=342815

price is dropping on the VisionTek ... last week it was $299 ... VisionTek Radeon X1950PRO Xtreme Gamer Edition Video Card, 8x AGP, 256MB GDDR

Was: $299.99
$229.99
SAVE $70 after:
$20.00 instant savings
$50.00 mail-in rebates(s)

now i am REALLY glad i returned mine

Must resist............ If only I was not so cheap and if I were not an nvidia fanboy......

 

[imported_dorian]

Originally posted by: GEOrifle
450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail recommended (assumes fully loaded system).

I recommend to change PSU.
Which card are you going to buy: 512mb or 215mb ?

Probably 256mb powercolor.
Anyway, if I have to buy a new PSU as well it will be too expensive.. I'll probably go for the 7800GS then..

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: apoppin
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=342815

price is dropping on the VisionTek ... last week it was $299 ... VisionTek Radeon X1950PRO Xtreme Gamer Edition Video Card, 8x AGP, 256MB GDDR

Was: $299.99
$229.99
SAVE $70 after:
$20.00 instant savings
$50.00 mail-in rebates(s)

now i am REALLY glad i returned mine

Must resist............ If only I was not so cheap and if I were not an nvidia fanboy......

I'll help you - that card is loud, has no temp monitoring, fan runs at 100% at all times.... still want it?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: apoppin
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=342815

price is dropping on the VisionTek ... last week it was $299 ... VisionTek Radeon X1950PRO Xtreme Gamer Edition Video Card, 8x AGP, 256MB GDDR

Was: $299.99
$229.99
SAVE $70 after:
$20.00 instant savings
$50.00 mail-in rebates(s)

now i am REALLY glad i returned mine

Must resist............ If only I was not so cheap and if I were not an nvidia fanboy......

I'll help you - that card is loud, has no temp monitoring, fan runs at 100% at all times.... still want it?

you missed it

i HAD the card ... for 3 weeks ... no loud fan ... doesn't run at 100% ... just too expensive
[and temp monitoring will likely come with a driver update ... i think it has the sensor]

AND even the x1950p/512mb prices at Allstar is dropping - while it is on preorder ... from $279 down to $249

prices are heading in the right direction [down] and supplies are looking up [eta 1/07 at Allstar]
:thumbsup:

 

[postmortemIA]

apoppin, You have X800 series that are even louder so you don't notice... I played with BIOS, some low-level tools, some ATi tray tools, etc.; and I know for sure that fan speed can't be changed.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
apoppin, You have X800 series that are even louder so you don't notice... I played with BIOS, some low-level tools, some ATi tray tools, etc.; and I know for sure that fan speed can't be changed.

i DID notice that the VisionTek x1950p/256MB was quieter than my x850xt.

:roll:



maybe yours was defective ... mine had levels of fan speed ... from 'jet takeoff' to 'whisper'

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: apoppin
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=342815

price is dropping on the VisionTek ... last week it was $299 ... VisionTek Radeon X1950PRO Xtreme Gamer Edition Video Card, 8x AGP, 256MB GDDR

Was: $299.99
$229.99
SAVE $70 after:
$20.00 instant savings
$50.00 mail-in rebates(s)

now i am REALLY glad i returned mine

Must resist............ If only I was not so cheap and if I were not an nvidia fanboy......

I'll help you - that card is loud, has no temp monitoring, fan runs at 100% at all times.... still want it?

Thanks, my 6800 ultra with my after market Zalman HS/Fan is very quiet.

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
apoppin, You have X800 series that are even louder so you don't notice... I played with BIOS, some low-level tools, some ATi tray tools, etc.; and I know for sure that fan speed can't be changed.

i DID notice that the VisionTek x1950p/256MB was quieter than my x850xt.

:roll:



maybe yours was defective ... mine had levels of fan speed ... from 'jet takeoff' to 'whisper'

Probably mine was defective then, or whole 1st batch was like that. Others have observed same loud behavior as me (few posts on rage3D).

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
apoppin, You have X800 series that are even louder so you don't notice... I played with BIOS, some low-level tools, some ATi tray tools, etc.; and I know for sure that fan speed can't be changed.

i DID notice that the VisionTek x1950p/256MB was quieter than my x850xt.

:roll:



maybe yours was defective ... mine had levels of fan speed ... from 'jet takeoff' to 'whisper'

Probably mine was defective then, or whole 1st batch was like that. Others have observed same loud behavior as me (few posts on rage3D).

i saw those posts ... also posters' experiences like mine that were either deaf or on drugs.
:Q



i am not getting another VisionTek x1950p/256 just to see

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
apoppin, You have X800 series that are even louder so you don't notice... I played with BIOS, some low-level tools, some ATi tray tools, etc.; and I know for sure that fan speed can't be changed.

i DID notice that the VisionTek x1950p/256MB was quieter than my x850xt.

:roll:



maybe yours was defective ... mine had levels of fan speed ... from 'jet takeoff' to 'whisper'

Probably mine was defective then, or whole 1st batch was like that. Others have observed same loud behavior as me (few posts on rage3D).

i saw those posts ... also posters' experiences like mine that were either deaf or on drugs.
:Q



i am not getting another VisionTek x1950p/256 just to see

Yeah, you're getting this one instead?

 

[apoppin]

sounds good ... soon as it drops $800 ...
:Q

... to $200

then i can afford to clean the wax outta my ears.

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Of course it is!! The performance improvements can be between 35% to 65% from your card.

A lot more than that! ,he has the X800GT which only has 8 pixel pipes vs 16 of the XTs
Assuming the 1950 is ~50% faster than an X850XT ,then it would probably be in the area of 100%+ faster ,that's a rough estimate of course

Only 8 pixel pipes?? :Q

Yep, Look at the GPU database here

klingsor

If you want hard numbers then go to THGs VGA tables ,though you'll have to flip between tables.
I've recently upgraded from a 9700 Pro (your 9800 Pro is about 10-15% faster) to an X800XT PE ,this roughly more than doubled (~120% )my frame rates (where it wasn't CPU limited anyway) ,& going by various benchmarks the 1950 is about 50% faster than the XTs (the 850 versions were only about 5% faster than the 800s btw).

So you should be better off by about 170% with a 1950 Pro (excluding CPU limited resolutions) ,roughly speaking of course.

[edit]opps just seen that apoppin has already answered you ,oh well at least our figures roughly tally


Btw you guys in the USA , does ebuyer no longer have a branch at your side of the pond?
Ebuyer UK supposedly still have 14 in stock

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
apoppin, You have X800 series that are even louder so you don't notice... I played with BIOS, some low-level tools, some ATi tray tools, etc.; and I know for sure that fan speed can't be changed.

i DID notice that the VisionTek x1950p/256MB was quieter than my x850xt.

:roll:



maybe yours was defective ... mine had levels of fan speed ... from 'jet takeoff' to 'whisper'

Probably mine was defective then, or whole 1st batch was like that. Others have observed same loud behavior as me (few posts on rage3D).

i saw those posts ... also posters' experiences like mine that were either deaf or on drugs.
:Q



i am not getting another VisionTek x1950p/256 just to see

Yeah, you're getting this one instead?

and I thought the USD had bad inflation

 

[zoozilla]

First, you must understand: I've only had this computer for a short time, and got it as a refurbished product off of Dell. Even with that info in mind, I must be one of the stupidest people in galaxy. Looking at the database Assimilator provided, I found nothing for the X800GT for AGP. I found out this didn't exist. I rechecked my system specs (which I am SURE said AGP) I found I have a PCI-e slot.
:Q
:Q
:Q

Laugh at me if you want. Heck, I'm laughing at myself! Of all the stupid things.......... I thought the reason the comp was so cheap was because it was AGP! But....I guess this is good news, right?

 

[GEOrifle]

Originally posted by: dorian

Originally posted by: GEOrifle
450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail recommended (assumes fully loaded system).

I recommend to change PSU.
Which card are you going to buy: 512mb or 215mb ?

Probably 256mb powercolor.
Anyway, if I have to buy a new PSU as well it will be too expensive.. I'll probably go for the 7800GS then..

Newegg rised prise on 7800GS to $278, i was thinking it will drope price to $200 after
anouncing X1950Pro, i don't know what's going on.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: zoozilla
First, you must understand: I've only had this computer for a short time, and got it as a refurbished product off of Dell. Even with that info in mind, I must be one of the stupidest people in galaxy. Looking at the database Assimilator provided, I found nothing for the X800GT for AGP. I found out this didn't exist. I rechecked my system specs (which I am SURE said AGP) I found I have a PCI-e slot.
:Q
:Q
:Q

Laugh at me if you want. Heck, I'm laughing at myself! Of all the stupid things.......... I thought the reason the comp was so cheap was because it was AGP! But....I guess this is good news, right?

sure ... means your video card will be cheaper and that you have more options.

that said ... if it is a dog-slow CPU [say a 2.4Ghz (un o/c'able) Pentium 4] you're still outta luck and need to upgrade more than your video card.

and ha ha
[it always pays to know what's in your rig]

 

[honestjohn]

If anyone wants one, the Sapphire X1950 Pro appears to be in stock at EWIZ - $232 plus shipping approx. $10.50 ....

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-195...e41baa99e2c2d2c780964b7880de60d6a0e5bf

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: zoozilla
First, you must understand: I've only had this computer for a short time, and got it as a refurbished product off of Dell. Even with that info in mind, I must be one of the stupidest people in galaxy. Looking at the database Assimilator provided, I found nothing for the X800GT for AGP. I found out this didn't exist. I rechecked my system specs (which I am SURE said AGP) I found I have a PCI-e slot.
:Q
:Q
:Q

Laugh at me if you want. Heck, I'm laughing at myself! Of all the stupid things.......... I thought the reason the comp was so cheap was because it was AGP! But....I guess this is good news, right?

lol ,well you've got a better deal than you thought you had, & better card options

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: honestjohn
If anyone wants one, the Sapphire X1950 Pro appears to be in stock at EWIZ - $232 plus shipping approx. $10.50 ....

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-195...e41baa99e2c2d2c780964b7880de60d6a0e5bf

mahalo ... what i need at the price i can afford

*ordered*

i guess it was in stock
:Q

anyone need a good x850xt that was overclocked only a few hours that will run at PE clocks?
[*for testing purposes only* ... yeah it got hot once but not dangerously]


santa is late ... better late than never.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: honestjohn
If anyone wants one, the Sapphire X1950 Pro appears to be in stock at EWIZ - $232 plus shipping approx. $10.50 ....

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-195...e41baa99e2c2d2c780964b7880de60d6a0e5bf

I am always a lil spooked by double the graphics memory, this thing have slower memory or a gimped memory bus compared to the 256mb?

 

[honestjohn]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: honestjohn
If anyone wants one, the Sapphire X1950 Pro appears to be in stock at EWIZ - $232 plus shipping approx. $10.50 ....

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-195...e41baa99e2c2d2c780964b7880de60d6a0e5bf

I am always a lil spooked by double the graphics memory, this thing have slower memory or a gimped memory bus compared to the 256mb?

Nope, I have one. The same basic reference specs as every other manufacturer ...see link for description

http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=168&grp=2

 

[honestjohn]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: honestjohn
If anyone wants one, the Sapphire X1950 Pro appears to be in stock at EWIZ - $232 plus shipping approx. $10.50 ....

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-195...e41baa99e2c2d2c780964b7880de60d6a0e5bf

mahalo ... what i need at the price i can afford

*ordered*

i guess it was in stock
:Q

anyone need a good x850xt that was overclocked only a few hours that will run at PE clocks?
[*for testing purposes only* ... yeah it got hot once but not dangerously]


santa is late ... better late than never.

Try EBay. I did really well and sold my X850XT-PE on Ebay for $202.50, which brought the cost of the Sapphire down to $47.50 for me.

 

[postmortemIA]

only $235 @ newegg.com

Sapphire 512MB

Just ordered mine. I bet they'll get out of stock pretty fast.

 

[Farmer]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

only $235 @ newegg.com

Sapphire 512MB

Just ordered mine. I bet they'll get out of stock pretty fast.

So, what's the going rate for a 6800U?

Does anyone know if the Thermalright coolers work with the AGP versions?

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: Farmer

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

only $235 @ newegg.com

Sapphire 512MB

Just ordered mine. I bet they'll get out of stock pretty fast.

So, what's the going rate for a 6800U?

It will go to my second rig