X1950 Pro AGP is coming!

[filibusterman]

nice now I don't have to go through the whole if I have to get a new mobo and gpu should i upgrade the whole rig charade.

 

[Auric]

teh noes... a meager 15A here, though I suspect it is underrated and the 30A figure is overrated. But I am not in any hurry and will wait and see how it pans out, user experience-wise or for a good review including power draw.

 

[CrystalBay]

I'm running my 1950Pro on 18A here no problems. I'm feeding it with 2 separate dedicated lines with everything else on the other 2.

 

[Compton]

Its on backorder, but a Visiontek version of this card just showed up on BB's site for $299.

Link

 

[Paratus]

Finally!

That's going on my Christmas list.

I can live with 300 bucks too.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: bigroy1231
I'm interested in upgrading my video card with this when it comes out, but i want to make sure my system won't bottleneck it before i waste my money. I currently have a BFG 6800GT OC (that's not overclocked) and it really doesn't cut the mustard anymore for the newer games. If anyone can tell me with any kind of certainty if my system can handle it I would greatly appreciate it.

My system:
Don't laugh...

HP Pavillion a566n
MB - ASUS P4SD-LA
Chipset - 865G (Socket 478)
CPU - P4 3.0ghz, 800mhz FSB
RAM - 2GB PC3200
HDD - 200 GB Ultra DMA, 7200rpm
Sound - SB Audigy 4


Thanks Much,
Big Roy

dude, your power supply will get eaten up?

 

[apoppin]

is there going to be a 512MB version of the AGP x1950p?

$300 is way too much

i might wait awhile to upgrade

 

[Auric]

Welp, dunno aboot VisionTek specifically but generally this model is supposed to retail for $229 as to the PCIe for $199 (although has sold for $160). So, $300 is just silly.

 

[hemmy]

max i would pay for this is 200

 

[t73]

Diamond will release a 500M GDDR3 version
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php
what will be the performance differences over the 256MB one?

 

[CalvinHobbes]

There's no way I'm paying $299. Places like ZZF and Newegg should be cheaper if there's a decent supply. Looking forward to some reviews.

 

[Cenarius]

The Powercolor has been showing up for a while now on Australia's price search engine at 331 AUD (times 0.76 for USD = $251), which is pretty darn good. It won't be available for at least another week.
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=1950+agp

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: t73
Diamond will release a 500M GDDR3 version
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php
what will be the performance differences over the 256MB one?

no idea, but that's the one i want

with textures getting larger and larger, it can't hurt to have extra vRAM ... it was enough for the 9800xt to have a significant performance gain over the 9800p with the games of '05 ... the x1950p should benefit even more ...

i want as much gain as possible over my x850xt

for cheap


[why not?]

 

[MegaVovaN]

Originally posted by: t73
Diamond will release a 500M GDDR3 version
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php
what will be the performance differences over the 256MB one?

Man that's pure ownage. Long live AGP.

I am getting a Dell 2007WFP, and this card is HDMI compatible! (that Dell is also compatible)

If I get the 512 mb version, will I be able to play games at 1680x1050?
My current card in Leadtek (one with (stock) monster copper heatsink) 6800GT 256 mb/256 bit AGP!

Here's my system:
2x512 mb DDR 400
Socket A 3200+ AMD Athlon (32 bit)
6800GT 256bit/256mb AGP
480w, 18A on +12V rail Thermaltake Silent Purepower PSU (550w peak) [I love it]
nForce 2 Soltek mobo
320 gb SATA II HDD (running at SATA 1)
Tsunami Dream case with sticker +5 hp :laugh:

Games I play or plan to play:
CS:Source
Guild Wars
Oblivion
GTA: San-Andreas

Thanks!

 

[gotsmack]

I want to buy it, but its gonna be too power hungry, I don't feel comfortable with anything that consumes more than 26A on the 12 volt rail.

 

[coloumb]

Originally posted by: apoppin
is there going to be a 512MB version of the AGP x1950p?

$300 is way too much

i might wait awhile to upgrade

/agree [however best buy prices are typically higher than most other places]

It would actually be cheaper to upgrade my 9NDA3+ mobo/X800 Pro system to this:

K8N Neo4-F motherboard - $65.00
ASUS EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $189.00

~$265.00 shipped.

 

[Compton]

I still can't find this card on any other website in the USA. If its $230 or less when it shows up at newegg, I'll probably buy it.

 

[MegaVovaN]

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: apoppin
is there going to be a 512MB version of the AGP x1950p?

$300 is way too much

i might wait awhile to upgrade

/agree [however best buy prices are typically higher than most other places]

It would actually be cheaper to upgrade my 9NDA3+ mobo/X800 Pro system to this:

K8N Neo4-F motherboard - $65.00
ASUS EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $189.00

~$265.00 shipped.

but what's better, buying a socket A mobo with PCI-E (do they even exist?) + regular PCI-E X1950 or AGP 1950?

Probably PCI-E mobo will tempt me to buy a $400+ card instead of $250 or so... :disgust::frown:

 

[CrystalBay]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: t73
Diamond will release a 500M GDDR3 version
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php
what will be the performance differences over the 256MB one?

no idea, but that's the one i want

with textures getting larger and larger, it can't hurt to have extra vRAM ... it was enough for the 9800xt to have a significant performance gain over the 9800p with the games of '05 ... the x1950p should benefit even more ...

i want as much gain as possible over my x850xt

for cheap


[why not?]

apoppin , That is what I need 512 vram for cheap. My 1950P clocks at 650/c 1550/M easily just wish I had more texture memory.

I need more VRam but this card screams compared to my old nV40.

 

[EvanAdams]

good reviews of this thing had better focus on CPU bottlenecks.

 

[Cenarius]

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Here's my system:
...
480w, 18A on +12V rail Thermaltake Silent Purepower PSU (550w peak) [I love it]

Quite a few of you are reporting having relatively powerful PSUs with low 12V output. You might want to think about getting a new PSU regardless of whether you get this card or upgrade to PCIe. It is apparent there has been a significant shift in the balance of power output towards 12V with newer models, which seems to be geared for running powerful graphics cards.

Take the entry level Antec SmartPower 2.0 350W for example (which can be had pretty cheaply). This has dual 12V rails totalling 25A, with 3.3V/5V (22A/21A) limited to 130W combined. The original SmartPower 350W has 12V at 16A, and 3.3V/5V (28A/35A) limited to 230W combined. So for the same total power output, that?s a 56% increase in 12V output, and a 44% decrease in the combined 3.3V/5V output.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: EvanAdams
good reviews of this thing had better focus on CPU bottlenecks.

if you got P4~3.0 ghz or ~A64-3000+, there is no bottleneck worth mentioning .... the x1950p aint no G80

even a 2.4 P4 should be 'fine' IF you turn up the resolution, details, AA/AF to offload more work to the GPU.

yep, the ONLY x1950p i would consider would have 512MB vRAM ... or it just wouldn't be much upgrade for me to 'future proof' for just another year

and i SERIOUSLY doubt that 30a on the 12v rail is needed unless your system is seriously [over]loaded ... a decent 450w PS should be sufficient [so, i drop my CPU O/C from 3.31 to 3.2 ... big deal]

IF not, i will pick up a 1000w PS ... for my NEXT rig
:Q

 

[Auric]

512MB VRAM would be schweet if it would allow running high-res textures in BF2/POE2/FH2 'n' such where system useage otherwise does not exceed physical capacity of 1GB system RAM. Cheaper and higher performance... woo woo!

Not really keen on Best Data though... hopefully others will jump into the fray with 512MB versions too with the added benefit of more competition and thus a lower premium.

 

[happy medium]

I just used the power supply calculator and my system was pulling 291 watts without my 7800gs overclocked. Then I stuck the 1950 pro in for video card option and my system watts went up 12 watts. I would think my video card overclocked pulls at least 12 more watts. So it looks like my 350 watt (26 amp rail) power supply will be good for this card.

 

[owenowen41560]

I'd like to extend my kids computer another year or so, and he is to the point where his XFX 6800 GT card will play everything, but he can't crank AA past certain levels without dealing with the tradeoffs. BF2 plays along with CSS (his main game) and the lot. Is there a point where he will be CPU limited (Amd64 2800) if this card is worth an upgrade? I assume it will stomp the 6800, but I have a long memory when I used the old 32meg Radeon all in one cards with the driver isses, so I have a sour taste in my mouth with their products. They have to be better now, right?

I realize there is a camp that says PCI motherboard and new card, but if I can bump his card again and do a cheap CPU upgrade if neccessary, it keeps him on the LAN circuit on the cheap.


Regards, Owen


Chaintech 754 board
AMD 64 2800
XFX 6800GT
Sata HD
S-Blaster Audigy 2