X1950 Pro AGP is coming!

[apoppin]

looks like 26A on the 12v rail and 430w

the x1950p asks for 450w and *recommends* 30a on the 12v rail - for a "loaded" system

Now ... your antec is far more powerful than many generic 500w PSes ... and i ran with my ThermalTake {480w} with only 18a on the 12v rail ... but my system is not loaded and only my CPU is moderately O/C'd ... sweet spot is 3.2Ghz ... no noticeable instability whatsoever

 

[postmortemIA]

I had that PSU, it couldn't drive my 6800 Ultra under full load. system is with 3 hard drives, 2 optical ones, and P4 that takes lots of power. If your CPU is not as power hungry, then you are fine.

Games would heavy artifact. I changed to stronger 550W, again TruePower, no problems ever since.

 

[Donuts]

can being under 4a cause problems for the card in the future. I can do 3200 at stock voltage. Temps rise a few in games, I don't have the best heatsink/fan setup. I've got three hdrives and two dvd burner/players

I've been playing Oblivion and some COD2 last night and most of the morning without the slightest issue.

 

[GEOrifle]

Do you like Saphire's 512 mb card? what about stock cooler, does it overheats?

 

[Donuts]

Yep, think it's great. Games look and run great, the fan isn't any louder than the 9800 pro it replaced. Have to say this thing doesn't put out much heat at all. I put my hand under the fan and it's actually cool but it's only about 70 in my house.

 

[AgonxOC]

Originally posted by: apoppin
looks like 26A on the 12v rail and 430w

the x1950p asks for 450w and *recommends* 30a on the 12v rail - for a "loaded" system

Now ... your antec is far more powerful than many generic 500w PSes ... and i ran with my ThermalTake {480w} with only 18a on the 12v rail ... but my system is not loaded and only my CPU is moderately O/C'd ... sweet spot is 3.2Ghz ... no noticeable instability whatsoever

I do hope there are more than one 12V rail. I have 33+ A in my single 12V, but again its a single rail.

Alex

 

[imported_dorian]

My PSU is 420W and also has 26A on 12V (two 16A rails). It's a Seventeam.
I believe my system isn't heavy loaded.. only 1 HD, 1 optical drive.. Athlon 64 3200+, no overclock..
I checked the benchmarks and even in low resolutions the X1950 Pro has a significant edge over the 7800GS.. I might go for it anyway

 

[GEOrifle]

Everywhere all cards are out of stock and that's why prices are too hight, we should hold
couple months until market will fill it up, then prices will go down, like 8800GTS series prices fall down to $350.
Maybe nVidia will introduce 8800GS AGP ? Demand will be higher.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GEOrifle
Everywhere all cards are out of stock and that's why prices are too hight, we should hold
couple months until market will fill it up, then prices will go down, like 8800GTS series prices fall down to $350.
Maybe nVidia will introduce 8800GS AGP ? Demand will be higher.

months???!? ... i think you mean days or weeks ... the factories are cranking out AGP product before nvidia decides to reply with something faster.

i just got mine cause it was at 'retail' with no shipping charge ... plus my x850xt is already [pre]sold ... a good deal for both of us.

i guess if i waited another few weeks, i could save another $20 or $30 ... and then my x850xt would drop $20 as they flood the market.

as to the possibilities of 8800 AGP ... maybe [8600, certainly - why not?] ... but now with the x1950p we are already beginning to run away from our slow-ass CPUs as they begin to SERIOUSLY bottleneck the videocard ... in other words ... if you ran a GPU twice as fast as the x1950p you certainly would NOT get twice the performance on an old agp system.

End of the road, i believe.

for me UP TO a couple more years ... aloha AGP and ... :brokenheart:

and

... aloha PCIe2
:heart:

 

[GEOrifle]

I'm told you:

"The current AGP king is the Nvidia 7800GS -- but it?s priced from $250-300. The X1950PRO should be much faster than the 7800GS. Anyway, we believe that the X1950PRO AGP will gain a lot of success due to the current generally poor offerings.

On another note, we also heard that Nvidia is very unhappy with the latest X1950PRO launch and are already working on a response (7950GS anyone?). Now we are even more confident that Nvidia will make an AGP version of it as well."


http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=8004

I guess we need to wait litle more, we gona have BiiiiiiiG price drops soon.

 

[EvanAdams]

yes there will be something else but dont count on big price drops. The price point has been set by the 1950p. Should there be a 7950gs would be what 7% faster. 7% off of the 1950p is certainly not a big price drop.

 

[THX]

Originally posted by: GEOrifle
I'm told you:

"The current AGP king is the Nvidia 7800GS -- but it?s priced from $250-300. The X1950PRO should be much faster than the 7800GS. Anyway, we believe that the X1950PRO AGP will gain a lot of success due to the current generally poor offerings.

On another note, we also heard that Nvidia is very unhappy with the latest X1950PRO launch and are already working on a response (7950GS anyone?). Now we are even more confident that Nvidia will make an AGP version of it as well."


http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=8004

I guess we need to wait litle more, we gona have BiiiiiiiG price drops soon.

This was pure speculation 3 months ago in October 2006. I'd grab something more concrete before posting more rumors.

 

[postmortemIA]

It is enough to see that all X1950PRO AGP from all manufacturers is out of stock on all major USA e-retailers... perhaps it is the hottest selling card right now.

It is nvidia's faulty logic that everybody is going to jump to PCI-e right away. I bought my CPU in Feb of 2004 and is still serving me well.

For them it is too late now. By the time they release something, ATi would have taken big portion of cake. And of course, as the time goes on, AGP becomes less and less popular.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GEOrifle
I'm told you:

"The current AGP king is the Nvidia 7800GS -- but it?s priced from $250-300. The X1950PRO should be much faster than the 7800GS. Anyway, we believe that the X1950PRO AGP will gain a lot of success due to the current generally poor offerings.

On another note, we also heard that Nvidia is very unhappy with the latest X1950PRO launch and are already working on a response (7950GS anyone?). Now we are even more confident that Nvidia will make an AGP version of it as well."


http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=8004

I guess we need to wait litle more, we gona have BiiiiiiiG price drops soon.

keep dreaming

by the time we see your BiiiiiiG price drops the x1950p will be an antique

and if by BiiiiiG you mean "fifty dollars" ... who cares?

 

[GEOrifle]

Someones also thinking same thing until Core2 Duo arrived and $1000 AMD CPU's became $300 sh*t in one day.
Introducing 7950 series will drope down all AGP prices down.

 

[Farmer]

Welp, considering there is very little difference in performance between the X1950Pro and the 7950GT, I guess those that just absolutely must have an nVidia card, for whatever reason, can wait for as long as they want.

 

[postmortemIA]

Found two reviews of Sapphire card thanks to neoseeker.com:

1

2

 

[KutterMax]

I received a POWER COLOR RADEON X1950 PRO 256MB from Mwave.com on Friday. I also bought a ATI 650 HD tuner card last week so I decided to do a complete reinstall of MCE2005 this weekend since it's been about a year since I've done this. I had been running a 7800GS prior to this, but I had to RMA it to BFG and am still waiting for the replacement to arrive (which will be heading to ebay).

After the reinstall of MCE2005 I install the drivers for the x1950Pro (at this time I didn't install the full CCC) and my sound card etc. Everything set up great. I reinstalled WoW, Titan Quest, Company of Heroes, COD2, HOMM5, and a few others. Everything seemed to run great and I definitely noticed a FPS bump in Titan Quest and Company of Heroes.

Other things - the Accelero 2 cooler on the card is indeed very, very quiet but it is big. The problem I have run into is that I have my case modded and have 2 fans installed on the side panel. I had to take the side panel off as the cooler from the card is not in the way. Without the fans on my side panel it would fit, so I'm going to have to move my fans.

Also I'm using an Antec 480w TruePower power supply. Seems to work fine.

 

[Assimilator1]

For those selling in the UK ,on ebay, X800XTs go for about £80-£95 ,X800 XT PE & X850XT £100-125 ,& X850XT PE about £110-140!:Q (insane what people will pay for another 5-10% performance!).
At least they were the prices about 3-4wks ago.

Originally posted by: GEOrifle
You know what i think about? how long thise card gona last. One year?
If someone CRAZY will realise one game with SH 4 support-THAT"S ALL, maybe we are wasting $$$ for it?
8800 series got SH 4, this means some kind of game will apear soon enough and then what?

Think about it this way ,how many games will only run in PS3.0 (err ,did you mean PS?) ,if theirs any (I think their's 1?) I'd bet you could count them on one hand.And the X8x0's with PS2.0 came out ~2.5yrs ago ,so don't worry about it

 

[Farmer]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Found two reviews of Sapphire card thanks to neoseeker.com:

1

2

#1 is a great article, but that AGP test system does the card no justice.

 

[benwood]

Could anyone who has a 1950 Pro AGP card (it doesnt matter what manufacturer) check and see if the card has the cryptorom required for HDCP support? A lot of boards have HDCP support listed in the specs or on the box but dont have the cryptorom needed for it to work. Thanks.

 

[kopema]

Originally posted by: dartmouth001
The current card is a 9600xt, and things work well, I'm just wondering if I will get better video quality if I upgrade to the x1950? Would I notice any other improvements like less cpu overhead when playing video? How about dvd playing?

I haven't seen many head-to-head benchmark tests between different cards for video playing. But here is a reviewer's comment on the x1950 pci-e vs. AGP4: http://www.lostcircuits.com/video/sapphire_x1950proagp/12.shtml

3-D gaming speeds are not affected; However, the pci-e version seems to work better for video playback. I hate to say it, but if high-def video playback performance is important to you, then a system upgrade to pci-e might be your best bet. (BTW, you probably already know this, but if you're doing a lot of video editing, you will also want to make sure you have buttloads of system RAM.)

Also, for the people asking about what kind of power supply you need, the above review tests the X1950 AGP with a 300 W PSU.

 

[crystal]

Got myself a VisionTek with rebate from Compusa. With taxes, it came out to $305 - $50 rebates and I sold my X850 XT for $95 = $160 for this lastest round of update. BTW, the X850 XT got sold within 15 min. of my posted in the Sale/Trade forum so I might listed it too low.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: crystal
Got myself a VisionTek with rebate from Compusa. With taxes, it came out to $305 - $50 rebates and I sold my X850 XT for $95 = $160 for this lastest round of update. BTW, the X850 XT got sold within 15 min. of my posted in the Sale/Trade forum so I might listed it too low.

waay too low

j/k'ing

i [pre]sold my x850xt before i posted it in FS/T
:Q

from this thread
:thumbsup:

and i am waiting on shipping for my Sapphire x1950p/512 to complete the deal
... basically a [~]$150 upgrade ... for another gaming year.

 

[postmortemIA]

AGP Review at Tom's HW

Many you of debated how X1950 goes with slow CPUs..well there's article.