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Auric

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'tis backordered. Prolly bogus.


sm8000, if the CPU lacks at least SSE2 then no GPU will help with DxVA of AVC and VC-1. Otherwise an X1650XT or higher or any GF7000 series (such as 7300GT) would be better.

DxVA of MPEG-2 does not require SSE2 nor would the variance be significant.

For software-only decoding, ATI is better than Nvidia. But in such case I doubt a higher-end GPU would help significantly.
 

Steve

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Originally posted by: psteng19
Is this sucker a dual link DVI card?

I believe so, X1600 and up all support dual-link DVI IIRC.

Originally posted by: Auric
sm8000, if the CPU lacks at least SSE2 then no GPU will help with DxVA of AVC and VC-1. Otherwise an X1650XT or higher or any GF7000 series (such as 7300GT) would be better.

DxVA of MPEG-2 does not require SSE2 nor would the variance be significant.

For software-only decoding, ATI is better than Nvidia. But in such case I doubt a higher-end GPU would help significantly.

Well, looks like my Athlon XP doesn't have SSE2. I'm not sure what the rest of those acronyms mean or how they affect me
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Is this card DX10?

When is DX10 coming out?

no

now ... it's out ... nvidia has a complete range

just no DX10 games yet ... and you will need Vista to play them

Vista? Oh, crap. I was hoping to hold on to my beloved XP Pro.

How long until games require Vista?
 

Steve

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Is this card DX10?

When is DX10 coming out?

no

now ... it's out ... nvidia has a complete range

just no DX10 games yet ... and you will need Vista to play them

Vista? Oh, crap. I was hoping to hold on to my beloved XP Pro.

How long until games require Vista?

When they're all DX10.
 

apoppin

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Many new games will still be made to run on DX9 ... for another couple of years ... no doubt

in fact, soon-to-be-released [Q4?] games like Crysis are DX9 which *also* have some DX10 features for Vista/DX10 players ... more dx10 will be *patched into* the game after release.

as there are more and more DX10/Vista gamers, less emphasis and fewer games will be available for DX9 cards
 

MegaVovaN

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I have a solid Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480W Power Supply with 18A on +12 rail, socket A AMD 3200+ processor, 1GB ram, and AGP 6800GT.

Can I swap my 6800GT with x1950PRO without upgrading power supply or other system components? Then I could sell my 6800gt and get part of the money back!

edit: 555 post
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
I have a solid Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480W Power Supply with 18A on +12 rail, socket A AMD 3200+ processor, 1GB ram, and AGP 6800GT.

Can I swap my 6800GT with x1950PRO without upgrading power supply or other system components? Then I could sell my 6800gt and get part of the money back!

edit: 555 post

NO! ... not imo ... it is not worth possible damage

i did - same TT 480-watter and my x1950p burned out on Day 31 ... i had to back my P4's OC down to give it enough power.

30a on the 12v rail is realistic

get a better PS and you can also OC that A64 3200+ and you will make full use of you x1950p ... as it is, your CPU will be a slight bottleneck

read the P4 "bottleneck" thread i linked to

... and what are you gonna do for post 666?

:evil:


 

MegaVovaN

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I don't know what I am gonna do for post 666, hell, my BIRTHDAY this year was 6/6/6!

I don't like overclocking stuff, and I forgot to mention that I only have:
1 hard drive
1 dvd drive
2x 120mm fans
1x92 mm fans
stock cooling on everything,
no overclocks

and that's it!

Still risky?
By the way, can I use a 24pin PSU on a 20-pin motherboard? I think it's possible.
EDIT: just called my local Houston MicroCenter and they have OP's deal in-store.

EDIT2: It is NOT A64 3200+!
It is Socket A AMD 3200+ (32bit) that is also basically un-overclockable.
 

apoppin

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don't do it


you *have* been warned

by someone who went there before you

a PS is *cheap* ... compared to replacing your HW ... and the time and frustration of warranty

and my *last post* to you was Twenty-five thousand
:shocked:

--but i am MUCH too modest to mention it until YOU brought it up



and before ANYONE brings it up ... it is OVER 7 years ... LESS than 10 [helpful and insightful] posts a day
[waaaaay less then ten, if you count 'insightful' ones]
 

Shinare

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Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
I have a solid Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480W Power Supply with 18A on +12 rail, socket A AMD 3200+ processor, 1GB ram, and AGP 6800GT.

Can I swap my 6800GT with x1950PRO without upgrading power supply or other system components? Then I could sell my 6800gt and get part of the money back!

edit: 555 post

I have a Tt Silent PurePower 430W I purchased over a year ago and just upgraded from A64 s939 3000+ and x800xt pe to a 4000+ and sapphire x1950pro 512MB. Works just fine. I have 18A on my 12v rail as well.
 

hrvatsko

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Originally posted by: apoppin
good luck ... you are below the minimum recommended in every way

i have this card in a dell 400sc with the stock (250w) power supply and i haven't had any problems. my system isn't that loaded so maybe that's why it works, all i have in it is a single 7200 rpm hd, dvdr, pci wlan card and a sblive. unfortunately i am severely limited by my p4 2.4 ghz processor but i'm looking at upgrading it now. if not i'll probably sell the card on here.

btw, check your b&m stores for it if you can't get it online, it's in their ad in the store and i'm betting their b&m stock isn't used to fulfill online orders.
 

apoppin

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The *manufacturer* gives the minimum recommended as 450w

30a on the 12v rail
[for a 'loaded' system]

[period]

use a weaker PS at your own risk

you have been warned

carry on
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: apoppin
The *manufacturer* gives the minimum recommended as 450w

30a on the 12v rail
[for a 'loaded' system]

[period]

use a weaker PS at your own risk

you have been warned

carry on

Makes me very glad I originally got more PSU than I needed.
 

Budarow

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Originally posted by: apoppin
The *manufacturer* gives the minimum recommended as 450w

30a on the 12v rail
[for a 'loaded' system]

[period]

use a weaker PS at your own risk

you have been warned

carry on

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