X3350 / Q9450 Overclocking Thread

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VirtualLarry

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Aug 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Foxery
Ok, Q9300 (Xeon equiv) came in today, and so far my thoughts are... WTF?

Temperatures make no sense

Perfectly stable at 3.2ghz (428 FSB, 1.25volts) but as you can see, it should have burst into flames if RealTemp is to be believed. CoreTemp, of course, reads even higher. And yet I'm sitting here writing this while Prime95 cranks away, and listening to MP3s to boot...

YOUR TEMPS ARE INSANE.

I dont know how your cpu is not shutting off when your EXCEEDING the TjMax.

You have 2 choices as of this point.

1. Get a new cooler
2. Inspect to see if its the thermal probe inside thats malfunctioning.

But as of right now YOUR CHIP IS NOT SAFE


Perhaps he shut off thermal monitoring in the BIOS???

 

VirtualLarry

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Aug 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Foxery

First, though, I'd like to know why I've apparently acheived the impossible...

simple your cpu is above TjMax.

@ TjMax the cores are set to automatically turn the computer off.

For some wierd reason your system is still operational, and looks like 2 of your cores are dying. :X

Exceeding TJMax doesn't shut the PC down, it just lowers multi + voltage in an attempt to cool down the chip. I believe that the mobo BIOS temp sensor is the one that initiates shutdown if that temp (Tcase approx) is exceeded.
 

CKTurbo128

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I'm currently running my Xeon 3350 at 3.8 GHz (475 x 8 at 1.3125v) on my new Maximus II Formula. The initial P95 tests have been promising, but I'll do some further tests to see if it's truly stable at this speed. One thing I'm concerned about is the temps, as it's hitting ~70-75 C (with RealTemp) on load. I'm going to add a second 120mm fan to my Thermalright Ultra-120 Ext. to see if this improves temps.

EDIT: Back down to 3.6 GHz, at 480 x 7.5, after finding out that my Max. II Formula was setting CPU PLL to 1.77 with it on AUTO. Dropped the CPU PLL voltage back to 1.5.
 

ShadowFlareX

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I think it's about time for me to post my Q9450 overclock, got it like 2 months ago.

Speed: 3.6GHz
Multi: 8
FSB: 450MHz
VCore: 1.40v in BIOS (LLC disabled, if enabled VCore is set to 1.35 in BIOS)
Dram: 2.0V
NB: 1.31V (BIOS hardware monitor is reading 1.2V though, weird)
VTT: 1.30V

All other voltages set to their minimum.
 

Shortass

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Originally posted by: ShadowFlareX
I think it's about time for me to post my Q9450 overclock, got it like 2 months ago.

Speed: 3.6GHz
Multi: 8
FSB: 450MHz
VCore: 1.40v in BIOS (LLC disabled, if enabled VCore is set to 1.35 in BIOS)
Dram: 2.0V
NB: 1.31V (BIOS hardware monitor is reading 1.2V though, weird)
VTT: 1.30V

All other voltages set to their minimum.

Nice overclock. I'm working on bringing my Q6600 up to 3.2 with as little voltage as possible, for power consumption reasons. Have you considered running F@H? A 45nm quad at that clock speed would be a considerable asset to the team.
Insidious's guide to set up two SMP clients on quad and MDE's setup guide. are good resources if you need it, or just stop by the Distributed Computing forum and say hi!
 

ShadowFlareX

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I'm doing SETI@Home right now, trying to catch a glimpse of what's out there :laugh: I have been looking at Folding@Home but thought I stick with S@H for now since I've been crunching for S@H since 2003 Thank you for the offer though, I'll stop by the Distributed Computing forum
 

alkalinetaupehat

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Right so my rig CAN be stable at 3.2Ghz, and even with around 1.10v Core, but the VTT has to be something like 1.29v for the proc to be stable. After reading both Anand's post on high VTT and reading the Q9450's electrical specs, it seems that I am operating outside of what Intel calls "functional operation condition limits" with my VTT voltage, that is that my VTT is above 1.15v, and in an area where the lifetime may be degraded.

I know, I know, welcome to overclocking, may I answer your FAQ's?
Nevertheless, I ask what size grain of salt should Intel's own proc specifications be taken with. I plan to upgrade to Nehalem around spring or summer next year, but current parts are going to a family member and I hate to simply throw them a system on crutches.

The NB voltage is 1.29v as well, the PLL is at 1.508v, SB is 1.508v and 1.101v. Load-line is enabled, otherwise my load voltage, OC'd or not, rises to ~1.22v which I believe isn't what should happen.

As a side note, my mobo has an LCD Poster I use for monitoring voltages, I also use CPUID's HWMonitor and CPU-Z. All of them are typically within .01v of each other, the Poster is always lowest, but at times CPU-Z reports a Vcore of 2.040v! Temps don't rise per HWMonitor, nor does anything explode or my power consumption rise per my Kill-A-Watt. Is this a known problem with CPU-Z or am I slaughtering my CPU? The jump is sporadic and occurs seemingly at random times, at load or at idle.

 

OCGuy

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My final is:

450X8 = 3.6ghz

1.32 actual idle Vcore
1.4 NB
1.3 VTT/FSB TERM

44C Idle, 65C during small FFTs orthos

 

Goi

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Hi guys,

I've a Q9450 on a DFI X48 board too, and so far I can't even get 8x390 to prime95 stably. I have been going on conservative vcore(1 notch up from default, to ~1.137V) and stock voltages for all other voltages. On 2 tries, I've never exceeded 8 hours. I'm wondering how much voltage the Q9450 can take since I've read they tend to try up easier than the Q6600.

My cooler is a Tuniq 120, and according to speedfan, core idle temps are ~44-51C but core temp reports them as 49=57C. When priming speedfan reports temps in the 60s. Seems a bit high to me? Case is a Lian Li A7010B, and ambient room temperature is usually around 27-33C (hot country)
 

fredrick2280

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I have my Q9450 running at stock voltage @3.7GHZ.
I used the auto overlock route which gave me 3.5 then bumped up the FSB i think another 100.
Can post my settings if anyone wants them.
This is using a Asus Striker II Extreme motherboard.
Cant seem to get over 3.7 though even if i increase the voltage.
My memory is set to unlinked and overclocked to 1000 from ddr800

Q9450 @ 3.7ghz using Noctua heatsink
4GB DDR2 800 samsung @ddr1000
EVGA 8800GT and PNY 8800GT in SLI
Zalman 850 modular PSU
Thermaltake Mozart Case (VE1000) THIS THING IS SWEET
Soundblaster XIFI
Asus Striker II Motherboard
2 Western Digital 74GB Raptors in Raid
 

GundamF91

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I doubt it's at "stock" voltage. You probably had vCore set as "AUTO" and in that case, the motherboard will just put in a vCore it thinks it'll run. If you look at the CPU-z, you may be suprised how high vCore is.

 

GundamF91

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I've been working on overclocking my Q9450 for a month. I didn't want to do it too much since it's my only system and I need it for my school work. Also I can't afford a new processor for a while so I'd rather not have it burnt up in a year. Also, I'm running 4x2GB, and I need to take 2 sticks out and just to see how far it'll go.

So far, I've hit 3.2Ghz at 1.21 vCore set in BIOS, and minimum on everything else. In actuality, the vDroop drops this to around 1.17v. It's running pretty cool, but if I was to use 1.20 vCore then it'll crash in Prim95. If I push to 1.27 vCore, I can hit 3.6ghz go into WinXP and do all normal stuff. But it'll crash in Prime95 almost immediately.

By the way, does anyone have BSOD when you crash, or does Prime95 show you it's crashed? All the crashes I hit has been BSOD. This led me to think that it may be not the CPU, but something with memory issue.



 

fredrick2280

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Jul 26, 2008
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I will post my cpu-z screenshot when i get home.
Ive been using it overclocked for the last week and no problems at all.
Also, can anyone recommend a good cooler for my north and southbridge, my NB is running 70C.
 

Qbah

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@ 3.2GHz here, stock 1.2375V in BIOS, rest on auto (if I put this one on auto it would go to some insane numbers in CPU-Z...). CPU-Z shows 1.184-1.200V at idle and 1.152-1.168V at full load. I hope that's alright. Ohh and obviously, 8x400MHz

Link http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=396021

Very happy with it, don't need more power anyway and running it at stock voltage is just awesome.

EDIT: And what the...? Why is my RAM running at 480MHz...
 

ZX81

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Feb 25, 2008
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Asus P5Q Deluxe
Corsair 2x2GB Dominator 8500
Q9450 @ 3.6


settings
vcore 1.3125

FSB 450
PCIE 101
PSB strap to NB 400
DRAM freq 900
DRAM manual timing: 1st info 5-5-5-18-3-55-6-3

DRAM static - disabled
DRAM read training Auto
Mem OC charger Enabled
Ai clock twister Moderate
Ai transaction booster Manual
Common performance level 12

CPU voltage 1.33125 (my default vid is
GTL 0.635
GTL 0.675
PLL 1.54
FSB 1.34
DRAM 2.06
NB 1.3
NB GTL Auto
SB 1.2
Sata 1.5
Load line calibration Enabled
CPU spread specturm disabled


CPU config
Ratio setting Auto (ie x8 max)everthing else disabled except speedset


My RAM is 8500 and 2.1v spec but find 2.06 is sweet spot for 3.6. I am completely prime stable

I already linked to a thread on extreme where users are on 3.6-3.8 on air with Q9450 and Asus P5Q deluxe, check my past posts - I took above settings from that thread

good luck

(I have really good cooling)




 

mgmason

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Sep 18, 2008
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I have a Q9450 running on an Asus P5Q motherboard. I was overclocking fine to 400x8 using an Arctic Cooler Pro, everything seemed great, then one morning none of it would boot. I returned all the stuff to my local supplier, they ended up swapping out the motherboard, memory and CPU. Guess I was unlucky.

The gear they returned to me seems to work fine, except that CPU-Z tells me I'm always at a 6x multiplier (2ghz) instead of 8x (2.66ghz). The previous 9450 I had would speed step itself to 6x when idle, but this one seems stuck there.

I've tried:
- using Orthos to stress all the CPUs, still stays at 6x multi
- disabling C1E and EIST in bios, still stays at 6x multi
- fiddling with fsb speed, still stays at 6x multi but 6x400 gives me 2.4ghz.

Real Temp is telling me that core 3 (or 4, if you count from one) is at 24 degrees C, and that PROCHOT is currently set for that core. The other cores are at 41 - 39 degrees:

http://i480.photobucket.com/al...ason/RealTemp-shot.jpg

CPU-Z tells me 6x multiplier (this is at idle):

http://i480.photobucket.com/al.../mgmason/CPUZ-shot.jpg

Real Temp gives me sensor movement of 3, 4, 1, 0 so it looks like that last sensor is stuck, and is triggering thermal throttling.

Do I have another dodgy CPU? Can I return it? It's not running at 2.66ghz which is the spec, so I feel justified in doing a return. Anything else I could do to fix the problem?

Thanks!
 

mgmason

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Sep 18, 2008
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Do I have another dodgy CPU? Can I return it? It's not running at 2.66ghz which is the spec, so I feel justified in doing a return.

Well, I switched off Thermal Monitoring and did a manual overclock to 3.2 ghz, 8x400, with a manual 1.225 volt for the core (I wanted to try 1.2 stock, but it seemed to droop a lot on my P5Q). I'm OCCT stable for an hour and Prime95 stable for 6.5 hours, at about 63 degrees C on the hottest core.

http://i480.photobucket.com/al...ason/320400x81225v.jpg

Does it look like it's safe to stay on these settings, even though the fourth core's temperature sensor is stuck?
 
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