x800 Pro softmod into XT

[GeneralGrievous]

Apparently, you can enable the 4 locked pipes on an x800 card with a couple simple bios flashes, though the card has to be a VIVO x800 Pro, which have a slight price premium.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=36912&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=17245278&perpage=30&pagenumber=1

A pair of threads on the subject. It looks like the success rate is 100%. The cores on these cards are labelled as XT cores and the memory is the 1.6 ns XT chips. You can distinguish a regular x800 Pro from a vivo card by a yellow component by the molex connector; it will be there only in vivo cards.


http://www.nt-micro.com/ntik/details.asp?item=spx800vivo

The cheapest VIVO card on pricewatch.

 

[Regs]

Good news, but how much is a Vivo x800?

 

[Keysplayr]

And how much is a VIVO X800XT?

 

[GeneralGrievous]

http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=62705

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Apparently, you can enable the 4 locked pipes on an x800 card with a couple simple bios flashes, though the card has to be a VIVO x800 Pro, which have a slight price premium.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=36912&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=17245278&perpage=30&pagenumber=1

A pair of threads on the subject. It looks like the success rate is 100%. The cores on these cards are labelled as XT cores and the memory is the 1.6 ns XT chips. You can distinguish a regular x800 Pro from a vivo card by a yellow component by the molex connector; it will be there only in vivo cards.


http://www.nt-micro.com/ntik/details.asp?item=spx800vivo

The cheapest VIVO card on pricewatch.

The succes rate is FAR from 100% You need to carefully select the proper VIVO card brand and you need some luck to run at XT PE core speeds.

 

[Peridium]

The success rate is 100% for unlocking the 4 disabled pipelines. However, the actual core and memory speeds each card is able to attain is variable. Some people have attained X800 XT PE core/memory speeds (520/560) or greater. Almost everybody who have unlocked their pipelines have achieved at least X800 XT speeds (500/500).

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Peridium
The success rate is 100% for unlocking the 4 disabled pipelines. However, the actual core and memory speeds each card is able to attain is variable. Some people have attained X800 XT PE core/memory speeds (520/560) or greater. Almost everybody who have unlocked their pipelines have achieved at least X800 XT speeds (500/500).

That's not accurate. Softmodding 12 into 16 pipes is not even close to a 100% affair. You have to select the proper brand of VIVO.

 

[Peridium]

It is accurate from what I've read from those threads...

So far, all X800 Pro VIVO cards have successfully been flashed. Brands such as Club3D, PowerColor, Sapphire, and HIS have been tested. This may not be the case in the future when the supply of these X800 Pro VIVO cards with 1.6ns memory is depleted.

These VIVO cards do not have the laser locks found on normal X800 Pro cards, hence why this softmod is possible.

 

[SickBeast]

If they can softmod the VIVO then why can't they softmod the regular X800PRO? Regardless, it's a very good thing to see that this sort of thing is possible.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Peridium
It is accurate from what I've read from those threads...

So far, all X800 Pro VIVO cards have successfully been flashed. Brands such as Club3D, PowerColor, Sapphire, and HIS have been tested. This may not be the case in the future when the supply of these X800 Pro VIVO cards with 1.6ns memory is depleted.

These VIVO cards do not have the laser locks found on normal X800 Pro cards, hence why this softmod is possible.

Well then you need to widen your reading sources

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Well then you need to widen your reading sources

Dude, could it not be that ATi is somehow putting XT cores on these cards? You're jumping on the guy for posting something very useful, and he's not being inaccurate in the least. So far there has been a 100% success rate from what we know. Get over it. It may turn out that in reality there is only a 50% success rate. That doesn't change what we know right now though.

 

[Bar81]

Could it be that you AGAIN have no idea what you're talking about? Gee, I am *so* surprised. Reading two threads and ignoring the others on this subject does not qualify as accurate. The fact is that while you, the OP, and the other clown know very little about the subject, there are many others, myself included, that know the proper facts. Try looking around at other boards or buy yourself a clue.

And because I'm feeling oh so generous to the ignorant tonight:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=312063

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
If they can softmod the VIVO then why can't they softmod the regular X800PRO? Regardless, it's a very good thing to see that this sort of thing is possible.

Because the memory of a regular x800 pro can't go XT speeds?

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: SickBeast
If they can softmod the VIVO then why can't they softmod the regular X800PRO? Regardless, it's a very good thing to see that this sort of thing is possible.

Because the memory of a regular x800 pro can't go XT speeds?

BIOSes can typically be altered so that the clockspeeds are within spec.

 

[Peridium]

Well I'd like to know where you are getting the information that the success rate for unlocking the 4 disabled pipelines with with X800 Pro VIVO cards is not 100%...

Here are the threads I have read and gotten this information from:

http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33766704&page=1&pp=30

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=8f59a2547f33e9edcd9223fb9427f9e2&threadid=36912

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=7140720c59c77e078323934b6cadc2a6&threadid=17246360

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=8f59a2547f33e9edcd9223fb9427f9e2&threadid=38336

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=112849

http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techdisplayadapters&Number=2712704

http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techdisplayadapters&Number=4060194&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Could it be that you AGAIN have no idea what you're talking about? Gee, I am *so* surprised. Reading two threads and ignoring the others on this subject does not qualify as accurate. The fact is that while you, the OP, and the other clown know very little about the subject, there are many others, myself included, that know the proper facts. Try looking around at other boards or buy yourself a clue.

And because I'm feeling oh so generous to the ignorant tonight:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=312063

Well, first of all I was commenting on your ever-present and always-assinine attitude. You wasted three posts bitching and complaining, making us all listen to your nonsense, althewhile adding nothing useful to the thread. THEN you decide to post a single semi-useful link. Do you really think we all have the time to read your constant slew of trash talk? All I ever see when you post is an "I know everything" attitude, and you carry it off to the point where you're acting condescending with everyone on these forums. I really don't think you were cut out for message boards, Bar81. In fact, I doubt you were cut out for public socialization in general.

 

[Bar81]

Thanks for making the decision on behalf of the entire board. Guess someone's got an ego. And it's asinine you illiterate twerp.

PS Learn to read. The thread has PLENTY of useful information; it just requires that the reader be educated.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Peridium
Well I'd like to know where you are getting the information that the success rate for unlocking the 4 disabled pipelines with with X800 Pro VIVO cards is not 100%...

Here are the threads I have read and gotten this information from:

http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33766704&page=1&pp=30

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=8f59a2547f33e9edcd9223fb9427f9e2&threadid=36912

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=7140720c59c77e078323934b6cadc2a6&threadid=17246360

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=8f59a2547f33e9edcd9223fb9427f9e2&threadid=38336

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=112849

http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techdisplayadapters&Number=2712704

http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techdisplayadapters&Number=4060194&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1

Uh, READ THE DAMN THREAD I LINKED TO for starters

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: SickBeast
If they can softmod the VIVO then why can't they softmod the regular X800PRO? Regardless, it's a very good thing to see that this sort of thing is possible.

Because the memory of a regular x800 pro can't go XT speeds?

True, and the X800 Pros don't all have cores that can reenable the extra four pipes. Even the ones that do require a hardmod. And then as has been said you have slower memory. The X800 Pro is an excellent performer and by overclocking it you can get some really great perfomance. It just seems that for whatever reason XT cores are included in the majority of VIVO cards but that this practice is being cracked down on by ATI and it appears that VIVO cards not in the channel right now will no longer have the XT cores in them.

 

[jhbball]

i did this mod the other day with my vivo power color. I can't core xt speeds, but the mem reaches 560 just fine. Got the 16 pipes first try.


I purchased my card @ mwave, to anyone who's interested.

 

[ponyo]

Very informative thread. If X800 Pro VIVO cards didn't cost so much I would be tempted to buy one of these cards to mod. But with these cards at ~$450, it's not that much off from $499 X800XT. But since XT cards are like no where to be found this is good alternative to those who can't wait.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Naustica
Very informative thread. If X800 Pro VIVO cards didn't cost so much I would be tempted to buy one of these cards to mod. But with these cards at ~$450, it's not that much off from $499 X800XT. But since XT cards are like no where to be found this is good alternative to those who can't wait.

Exactly; it's also kind of fun to mod something and turn it into an XT PE if possible. There's a certain joy in that.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jhbball
i did this mod the other day with my vivo power color. I can't core xt speeds, but the mem reaches 560 just fine. Got the 16 pipes first try.


I purchased my card @ mwave, to anyone who's interested.

I've been hearing that about the powercolors. What core speed did you get?

 

[Peridium]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Uh, READ THE DAMN THREAD I LINKED TO for starters

I've come across that thread before...

From what I understand, the person who is claiming failures is saying that the X800 Pro VIVO cards he tested cannot fully mod to X800 XT PE cards...meaning that not all his cards can attain the default 520c/560m speeds. He never said that his cards were unable unlock the 4 disabled pipes.

Reading through the thread shows that everybody who has tried the mod with a VIVO card was successful in modding from 12 to 16 pipes. This agrees with what I have been reading from other forums. Currently, all X800 Pro VIVO cards have 1.6ns memory...which is same memory used in X800 XT PE cards. Regular X800 Pro cards use slower 2.0ns memory. Don't you find it weird that ATI claims that the X800 XT PE cards are delayed due to memory shortages...yet they are using high speed 1.6ns memory chips on X800 Pro cards? It is only a matter of time before the supply of these cards is depleted...

Here is an interesting thread that discusses where these softmod capable X800 Pro VIVO cards originated:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33768391

As I said before, the success rate for unlocking the 4 disabled pipes is 100% with X800 Pro VIVO cards with 1.6ns memory...once unlocked, these 16 pipeline cards vary in the speeds they are able to attain.

 

[InlineFive]

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