X800GTO Specs Inside

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: linkgoron
So we've got:

x800XTPE
x800XT
x800pro
x800XL 512 MB
x800XL
x800
x800GTO 256MB
x800GTO 128MB
x800GT
x800SE

x900
x800
x700
x600
x500
x400
x300
x200
x100
x000

Easier, cleaner, far more defined. WhyTF can't we get something like that? I guess its because XT or Ultra or Pro look nice coming after the model number, makes you feel special that your card is Ultra Uber Professionally good. The one card that made sense with an extension was the GeForce 2 GTS, of which the GTS stood for "giga texel shader"

Because who the hell wants a x100?

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
LOL!! You could find a tasty morsel in a pile of crap couln't you....

That was uncalled for.

:laugh:

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: linkgoron
So we've got:

x800XTPE
x800XT
x800pro
x800XL 512 MB
x800XL
x800
x800GTO 256MB
x800GTO 128MB
x800GT
x800SE

X800 comes in 128MB and 256MB flavors as well.

 

[Cooler]

at least they are geting rid of their defective cores for some $.

 

[Killrose]

I'm sure we will see some of these product designations like the "X800" dissapear and be replaced by the X800GTO, but in the meantime, it is terribly confusing, and Ati has not taken care of thier sad, confusing product nomenclature for several years now.

The worst part of this is when product partners start to put thier own "play" on these designations confusing the consumer even more. The sad part is the fact that the 12-pipe X800 / X800GTO / whatever you want to call it, for the price is one hell of a value.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Killrose
I'm sure we will see some of these product designations like the "X800" dissapear and be replaced by the X800GTO, but in the meantime, it is terribly confusing, and Ati has not taken care of thier sad, confusing product nomenclature for several years now.

The worst part of this is when product partners start to put thier own "play" on these designations confusing the consumer even more. The sad part is the fact that the 12-pipe X800 / X800GTO / whatever you want to call it, for the price is one hell of a value.

Yes Ati is really dumping at low prices. Makes one wonder if their ecconomics are very poor, or does the next gen mid/low range (which the inquirer states they are holding back) just blow this stuff out of the water? If a fire sale, those who buy now (like myself), will be happy with their good deal, but if next gen is that much better - we will wish we waited.

In general naming of vid cards and versions supplied is very confusing and does take advantage of those who do not do their own research. Saphire and their pro advantage cards are a prime example of this. The other great con is the 512 mb 6200, geared to the guy who only listens to the sale speal.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'll have to admit that now I'm getting tired of all of ATI's models made from the same chip.

theyre floggin R300 beyond the grave!

im not sure but this must be the longest time ever that chip design has lasted. not that R300's bad or anything, its a damn fine piece of engineering but theyre spinning it like a merry go round now.R520 has to be ready now!

 

[biostud]

atleast waiting for the r520 get the 7800GT(X) to drop from the initial price.

 

[Creig]

I'm waiting for the X800WTF.

 

[raz3000]

Originally posted by: Creig
I'm waiting for the X800WTF.

lol

 

[Marsumane]

Originally posted by: Creig
I'm waiting for the X800WTF.

That is hilarious!

 

[Hacp]

X actually means 10, so X100 is 10100. Not THAT bad compared to 10900 if you look at it that way.

Also, I always thought GTO meant GT overclocked .

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Well they did mention September didn't they? It's only the end of August

it's not that, it's the fact that they are releasing what is essentially the same card over and over and over.

growing up we got one meal a week called "mish mash", all the weeks leftovers thrown in a pan with some mushroom gravy.

kinda reminds me of ati's offerings about now.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Malladine
I wonder if they actually expect additional profit from this...

ATI are starting to look a little pathetic to me.

Agreed. I was an ATI fanboi...I moved on to being a Canon fanboi

What ATI has done is sad!

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Creig
I'm waiting for the X800WTF.

Good one. They'll cater it to the CS gamers out there.

 

[lifeguard1999]

I'm waiting for the X800WTF.

ROTFL!!!

 

[nRollo]

HEY!

STFU you a$$hats! The R300 was a darn good core, and ATI figures if they make 37 versions of it, the shelf at Best Buy will look like ATI land!
People will buy more R300s just because it will be hard to reach for the shelf and not have your hand light on one first!

 

[dornick]

Originally posted by: Rollo
HEY!

STFU you a$$hats! The R300 was a darn good core, and ATI figures if they make 37 versions of it, the shelf at Best Buy will look like ATI land!
People will buy more R300s just because it will be hard to reach for the shelf and not have your hand light on one first!

Yeah, sounds like a plan to me

 

[UltraWide]

On a side note, the current Pontiac GTO is an Austalian Holden Monaro...

and GT stands for Grand Touring, something rich male europeans did when they came of age, like touring europe in their expensive sports cars.

I don't see how it has anything to do with graphic cards...

 

[malG]

Originally posted by: linkgoron
So we've got:

x800XTPE
x800XT
x800pro
x800XL 512 MB
x800XL
x800
x800GTO 256MB
x800GTO 128MB
x800GT
x800SE

Who needs the x300/500/600/700? Just make the low-end x800 cards, and high-end x800 cards... Nvidia should also make low end 7800\s, and they won't even need the 7600/7200 names...

You forgot about the X850 series. ATI's full line up consists of about TWO dozen cards and they shown dramatic market share gains in Q2'05 but still LOST money. Obviously they were selling their chips at a lost to gain market share. In contrast, NVIDIA's sales and market share declined but they made $75 million (net income) this past quarter :shocked:

"ATI widened its lead over NVIDIA in the desktop segment as compared to the prior quarter. In Q2'05, ATI's desktop graphics shipments grew 6.2% sequentially while NVIDIA?s desktop shipments fell 7.5%. ATI's gains on the desktop side came entirely from its line of integrated graphics devices, shipments of which increased more than three-fold during the period. On the discrete side, ATI's segment share remained essentially flat at 55.4% while NVIDIA?s segment share fell from 46.8% to 46.1% during the period."

Source: http://www10.dcccafe.com/nbc/articles/v....php?section=CorpNews&articleid=196302

ATI last quarterly: http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/ir/2005/atiq305.pdf

NVIDIA last quarterly: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=116466&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=742570

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Rollo
HEY!

STFU you a$$hats! The R300 was a darn good core, and ATI figures if they make 37 versions of it, the shelf at Best Buy will look like ATI land!
People will buy more R300s just because it will be hard to reach for the shelf and not have your hand light on one first!

So where the heck did you find a r300 core for sale?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: Rollo
HEY!

STFU you a$$hats! The R300 was a darn good core, and ATI figures if they make 37 versions of it, the shelf at Best Buy will look like ATI land!
People will buy more R300s just because it will be hard to reach for the shelf and not have your hand light on one first!

So where the heck did you find a r300 core for sale?

It was a joke Ronnn, not intended to be video card debate.

 

[n7]

OMGWTF ATi! :roll:

This is actually starting to frickin' annoy me.

I give up trying to understand what cards they have available & what is the best price...damnit release the new gen already!

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I'm a relative computer enthusiast (build my own comp every few years, upgrade maybe every 1.5, play modern games, etc.) and I currently have an X800XL, but I am very confused by what ATI is trying to accomplish here.

IMO, graphics cards should be priced about $50 apart on the high end, maybe $25 apart on the low end (up to $100) and should top out around $400-$450 (although I don't know if I could spend more than $300 any time soon).

I see a need for about 10 cards altogether:

$25
$50
$75
$100
$150
$200
$250
$300
$350
$400

It seems that the proliferation of cards makes it very difficult to know what is good, how they perform in various situations (the low end cards with 256 memory and mid range cards with 512 memory just seem like a scam to me), and where to best spend your money. Not to mention the intentional confusion created by calling your low end card the same thing as your competitor's high end card.

I think the graphics card companies really need to be more careful in their product lines, or they will risk making people frustrated and more likely to buy from a different company.

-D'oh!

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: Rollo
HEY!

STFU you a$$hats! The R300 was a darn good core, and ATI figures if they make 37 versions of it, the shelf at Best Buy will look like ATI land!
People will buy more R300s just because it will be hard to reach for the shelf and not have your hand light on one first!

So where the heck did you find a r300 core for sale?

It was a joke Ronnn, not intended to be video card debate.

Oh I thought it was just another opportunity to promote Nvidia's 2 big features since the 5950 ultra - sm 3.0 and texture shimmering. Now that I think about it, was very funny, nice one!