android? chrome os? ipad? heard of those? when you consider millions of units sold, windows IS going away.
x86 going away is about as likely as Windows going away
Maybe he should ask the Hotel owner first before making grand declarations of war.
When you look at how a dual core Cortex A9 can't even beat a single core Atom, I find it hard to see what the real benefit of going with ARM is. Even look at the Cell and PowerPC processors. They were RISC, yet Apple switched to x86 for better performance.
I think NV would be onto something if they could come up with something twice as fast as an i7. I think that the odds of them doing that are about the same as the odds that Intel will produce a GPU twice as powerful as a GTX 580 anytime soon. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.
These "fusion" type chips seem like they'll be great in things like the iPad, but I really don't see them replacing gaming rigs for the next 5 years or so.
I dont know if we will ever see the demise of x86. But it will continue to lose its relevance year after year. I think Intel and AMD are going to be pigeon holed into a relatively shrinking market or be forced to jump on board the ultra mobile bandwagon. One of the most telling signs things are about to change is the announcement that Windows 8 will run on ARM. Microsoft wouldnt develop for that SOC if they didnt see a huge upside or a potential disaster if they dont get on it.
Smartphones are great. People are really jazzed they can play Wolfenstein 3D on their phones, or basic internet surfing, and other relatively simple tasks. When they can do all the hard things we need x86 for today, it'll go away.android? chrome os? ipad? heard of those? when you consider millions of units sold, windows IS going away.
When you look at how a dual core Cortex A9 can't even beat a single core Atom, I find it hard to see what the real benefit of going with ARM is. Even look at the Cell and PowerPC processors. They were RISC, yet Apple switched to x86 for better performance.
yup. since the pentium pro and the nx586 there has been a decoder sitting in front of the processor that takes x86 instructions and breaks them down/combines them, etc. into the processor's internal RISC code.Aren't x86 instructions a very small fraction of current (Core/K10) CPUs?
Meaning only AMD has the future potential looking at now.
android? chrome os? ipad? heard of those? when you consider millions of units sold, windows IS going away.
That's the whole problem with x86. Only Intel is making a profit on it. So if anyone else wants to challenge them, they have to do it with a different architecture. AMD is deep in debt and bleeding millions every quarter. I think NVIDIA evaluated doing x86 and realized that (other than for Intel) it's a dead end.
While ARM has been huge on the mobile market, they may have created a chip that can take that success to the desktop.
Intel is not the first big company to get blindsided by new tech. They could end up like DEC/AOL/Myspace/3DFX/etc.
I think that by "bleeding millions every quarter", you actually mean, "made money every single quarter of 2010". AMD is doing just fine, and they have a boatload of new products coming out this year.
I think NVIDIA evaluated doing x86 and realized that (other than for Intel) it's a dead end.
Intel denied them the license to make a chipset for their CPUs with integrated memory controllers and denied them the license to make x86 CPUs. Its not that Nvidia couldn't or wouldn't develop an x86 chip, they couldn't legally do it.
Of course, they might have been able to purchase Via and use their license, but I'm not sure its transferable if bought. Might not have even been transferable to Via when they bought Centaur, but they don't sell enough volume for Intel to care.
the only thing growing in the PC game market are Indie games. The rest are ported from consoles assuming they ever get ported...thats not really growing as it just keeping it afloat.
were already starting to see fewer desktops on store shelves and more lappy's with tablets getting ready to take up more shelf space.
by the time of next consoles release, depending on sales, there may not be as many ports, consoles will have all the AAA titles
Windows has supported supposedly superior RISC processors (like the DEC Alpha) in the past, but it never caught on.
I'm not saying that the ARM version of Windows will fail as well, but I doubt that x86 is going away any time soon.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/14/amd_q3_2010_results/
3Q 2010 they lost $118,000,000
The only time I can remember them "making money" was for selling off their foundry and for suing Intel. Not from selling chips.
Operating income was $128M and non-GAAP (minus GF) net income was $108M.
GF is still losing money, AMD is not.
http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/amd-reports-third-quarter-2010oct14.aspx
I love the irony of that statement when it's combined with Microsoft's announcement of Windows 8 for ARM.x86 going away is about as likely as Windows going away
Nvidia has gone off its rockers.... smart phones replaceing intire pc systems? maybe for web browseing? but for anything more demanding? like gameing... I mean theres a reason dedicated grafics cards have the size they do right? The 600 gram heavy air coolers ontop of our CPUs... Nvidia really want us to buy into this "smart phone" solution that ll replace our pcs?
AMD is deep in debt and bleeding millions every quarter.