X99 boards - are they flaky?

escrow4

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Upgrading to a 5820K soon and I tossing up between these X99 boards:

- Asrock Extreme 4 (or 6)

- Gigabyte Gaming 5

The Newegg reviews for the Gigabyte are pretty damning (and there have been 5 or 6 BIOS updates already), reviews are similar with the Asus Deluxe. Price is irrelevant, I want a stable board that lasts.

Opinions?
 

PhIlLy ChEeSe

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Asus Rampage 5 Extreme, don't judge a board from Egg head reviews! If you look close enough you'll find back stuff on them all. You wont be let down with the RVE board, it costs more for a reason your buying the best board!!
 

escrow4

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Asus Rampage 5 Extreme, don't judge a board from Egg head reviews! If you look close enough you'll find back stuff on them all. You wont be let down with the RVE board, it costs more for a reason your buying the best board!!

The 5820K here is $459. I'm not blowing $600 on a mobo, no matter how special ASUS says it is. It looks like its the Asrock.
 

FiLeZz

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You said cost did not matter. Quote "Price is irrelevant, I want a stable board that lasts"

Philly gave you in my view the best board out there. This is also the board I own.
 

escrow4

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You said cost did not matter. Quote "Price is irrelevant, I want a stable board that lasts"

Philly gave you in my view the best board out there. This is also the board I own.

Any issues? The reviews don't seem to indicate its particularly stable. May as well save $100 and go for the Deluxe, most of those OC features I'll never touch.
 

AdamK47

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The only real problems I had with my Gigabyte X99 Gaming G1 was that it was incapable of running DDR4 beyond 2400 reliability. I also had an issue were I could not get into the BIOS when I had large data on my SSD array, but a later BIOS fixed that. The Asus R5E board I'm using now has an OC socket that allows for much better DDR4 stability at 2666+ speeds. It has been running great.
 

escrow4

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Hmmm, may as well as flip a coin. I'll spend more time reading for now. Still leaning towards the Asrock. Not looking to overclock the stuffing out of that 5820K and the price is right. Hmmmm.
 

Grooveriding

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RVE will be excellent. I had a RIVE and it was solid. I would say that the board is primarily not beneficial if you are not using LN2 cooling, meaning you won't get anything more out of it than another good board that has the same features you want. Asus motherboards have great BIOS support and this why I choose them.

You could get the same performance using the same chip on any X99 board so long as it is reliable, but Asus does have the OC socket. Take a look at the Deluxe if you don't want to spend the extra for the $100 for the RVE.
 

OlyAR15

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Take a look at the Asus X99-A. Using it in my new system. Has fewer "blingy" features, cheaper than the Deluxe.
 

escrow4

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Take a look at the Asus X99-A. Using it in my new system. Has fewer "blingy" features, cheaper than the Deluxe.

That looks like the choice. $368 vs $529 for the Deluxe. That fat heatsink/heatpipe is rather irrelevant on the Deluxe, isn't it?
 

PhIlLy ChEeSe

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IMHO,
There all flaky, they have DDR4 everything is new. We are only a few months into there release, I have some lesser expensive board's for my X79 that are also Asus. They over clock well, and cost less.

Yeah your first post you said I do not care about price I want a "GOOD BOARD", AsRock Smmh. Hit or miss really, if you do buy there board I would buy their top of the line board. It costs less then the Asus top dog, but generally has more options and better parts then the lesser priced one's they offer.

Your doing the right thing by doing your home work, don't get frustrated........
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LeonarD26

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I've had really good luck with my MSI X99S SLI Plus. One of the most trouble free builds I've ever had.
 

Rvenger

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Stay away from anything Gigabyte. The bios is horrible!! I spent 5 hours last night with my X99-UD4 to find out the fix was to downgrade the BIOS and shut off the "full screen logo show" in order to stop my boot loops and crashes. Now I have a strange issue with the VID on the CPU not being consistent through all cores which in turn I have to drive up the voltage to enable more voltage for the other cores. The MSI X99S SLI Plus was a decent board but had a strange cold boot issue every once in a while.

Probably a good idea to wait. Now I wish I kept my Z97-A/4770k setup.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Stay away from anything Gigabyte. The bios is horrible!! I spent 5 hours last night with my X99-UD4 to find out the fix was to downgrade the BIOS and shut off the "full screen logo show" in order to stop my boot loops and crashes. Now I have a strange issue with the VID on the CPU not being consistent through all cores which in turn I have to drive up the voltage to enable more voltage for the other cores. The MSI X99S SLI Plus was a decent board but had a strange cold boot issue every once in a while.

Probably a good idea to wait. Now I wish I kept my Z97-A/4770k setup.

I'm going to wait, but I'll probably spring for the Rampage anyway. I want to see "new, improved" DDR4, and I want to see upgraded micro-code in new production runs for the E processors.

Someone else told me that being a prudent enthusiast means choosing the right time to build and upgrade. But I had said much earlier that it is like surfing: you want to catch the right wave.

The new, improved socket-2011 will be compatible with the Broadwell-E chips. There is no guarantee that newer X99 motherboard designs will be appreciably better than those currently released. And of those currently available, I would think that BIOS updates may resolve any shortcomings. At least -- I would hope so.

So far, the prospects for the i7-5820K are reasonably bright. But if I build one, it will be my first custom-water-cooling experience. It's all going to be expensive: the motherboard, the DDR4 -- the water-cooling parts -- even the case if I have to buy a new one. I can wait another six months before I spend the money and go to work.
 

AdamK47

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Stay away from anything Gigabyte. The bios is horrible!! I spent 5 hours last night with my X99-UD4 to find out the fix was to downgrade the BIOS and shut off the "full screen logo show" in order to stop my boot loops and crashes. Now I have a strange issue with the VID on the CPU not being consistent through all cores which in turn I have to drive up the voltage to enable more voltage for the other cores. The MSI X99S SLI Plus was a decent board but had a strange cold boot issue every once in a while.

Probably a good idea to wait. Now I wish I kept my Z97-A/4770k setup.

I had the reboot problem a few times with the Gigabyte X99 Gaming G1 when trying out overclocks. It would just shutdown, startup, shutdown, startup... over and over again. I'm sure if I let it continue it would keep doing that forever. It only happened to me a few times. Had to flip the switch on the power supply to make it stop.

I like my Asus Rampage V Extreme though. The OC socket makes a considerable difference. I'd be content with the Gigabyte board if I settled for DDR4 @ 2400. It would run stable in all situations with that speed. The Asus board runs DDR4 @ 3000 just as stable as the Gigabyte board runs DDR4 @ 2400.
 

Rvenger

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I might try out the X99-A since it is on sale today. I am mulling it over. I really do like the lights on the Gigabyte board but I do prefer functionality over form.
 

Redstorm

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You said cost did not matter. Quote "Price is irrelevant, I want a stable board that lasts"

Philly gave you in my view the best board out there. This is also the board I own.

its only your opinion that the RVE is the best board, to me it is over priced waste of money. ASRock will suit you fine and leave you plenty of cash for Video Cards for SSD upgrades.

The RVE fan club have been blinded by ASUS.
 

Cerb

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Price is irrelevant, I want a stable board that lasts.

Opinions?
Get a Supermicro with a C-series chipset, or a plain very popular H97 or Z97 board. If you want the bennies of X99, you must accept some risk. It's all too new to assume it will be perfectly fine. 'Tis the nature of the beast.

But, if you want the performance, and are willing to pay for it, you will regret cautiously sticking to normal LGA1150. So, just decide on one, and go for it. Your experience will be luck of the draw, but probably fine, and you'll have 6+ fast Haswell cores, with 12+ threads.
 

BonzaiDuck

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its only your opinion that the RVE is the best board, to me it is over priced waste of money. ASRock will suit you fine and leave you plenty of cash for Video Cards for SSD upgrades.

The RVE fan club have been blinded by ASUS.

With me, it's all about probability. "You're more likely to degrade your processor by volting over a specified limit." "You're more likely to get good over-clocks with one board over another -- given phase-power design, components and other features."

So my prognostication pertaining to board selection is a matter of "likelihood:" You'll likely get better performance from RVE board than a number of prospective X99 purchases. But you'll likely be able to find a midrange motherboard that will match RVE performance. And you'll likely not want or need some of the features you pay for in the RVE purchase.

The pricing of the RVE over other boards is certain -- not "likely" -- to include the value of the extra features.

That being said, you're also likely to avoid defects and RMAs with the RVE, but it is "likely" that the extra "insurance" is not guaranteed.
 

CrazyElf

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That being said, you're also likely to avoid defects and RMAs with the RVE, but it is "likely" that the extra "insurance" is not guaranteed.

The problem I have with Asus is that their RMA and tech support are pretty awful. There are much more horror stories on the Internet.

A high end Gigabyte, MSI, or Asrock board will probably be comparable in terms of reliability. Get something like the X99 SOC Force, X99 XPower, or X99 OC Formula (all cheaper than the RVE) and you're fine. Search up which boards have bad BIOS. I think SOC Force and XPower are stable; I know the earlier versions had issues though.
 
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