I bought the Elite for the controller that was sold out everywhere which I sold to my cousin later on but kept the controller.
Does anyone remember how much the PS3 cost at launch? Both the 20GB and the 60GB versions?
I actually know, I just checked. The gist is is that I'm wondering if this time it's considered just as bad as it was back in 2006, or just as irrelevant for a console that - at launch and for its respective generation until a better one comes out - is the "best" (hardware-wise) on the market. They obviously labeled it the most powerful console ever created, because it is right now, sure. But so was the [insert a console name here] during its own generation too. And since specs always mattered for a lot of gamers then I wonder how many do not mind about such prices when - ultimately - what comforts them is that they paid a 'premium' for the "best there is", even if it means playing practically no games for it since there's going to be barely any games that will fully exploit the capabilities of the "beast" console that they just paid so much money for.
In the end, personally, when I read about the XBOX One X's price I didn't have any particularly negative reaction to it, to be honest. I only told myself "well, it cost them a crap load of money to design and produce it, now they want at least some of that back". It's a very powerful console, no doubt, but were gamers really expecting Nintendo-level pricing there or what? If I start upgrading my quite-frankly-aging PC right now for something above average (but yet not "top-notch") it will easily cost me well above $700 up to $900 Canadian even if I go the 'less expensive' way with AMD. So to me, when I see a price like that for a console that is truly what I would call finally "current generation", then sure $500 or even $600 for it would have seemed normal, if anything. Doesn't mean I'd be able to afford it, and certainly doesn't mean I'd want one even if I did have the money to get it, but still... console prices (at launch, at least) don't 'concern' me anymore.
Does anyone remember how much the PS3 cost at launch? Both the 20GB and the 60GB versions?
I actually know, I just checked. The gist is is that I'm wondering if this time it's considered just as bad as it was back in 2006, or just as irrelevant for a console that - at launch and for its respective generation until a better one comes out - is the "best" (hardware-wise) on the market. They obviously labeled it the most powerful console ever created, because it is right now, sure. But so was the [insert a console name here] during its own generation too. And since specs always mattered for a lot of gamers then I wonder how many do not mind about such prices when - ultimately - what comforts them is that they paid a 'premium' for the "best there is", even if it means playing practically no games for it since there's going to be barely any games that will fully exploit the capabilities of the "beast" console that they just paid so much money for.
In the end, personally, when I read about the XBOX One X's price I didn't have any particularly negative reaction to it, to be honest. I only told myself "well, it cost them a crap load of money to design and produce it, now they want at least some of that back". It's a very powerful console, no doubt, but were gamers really expecting Nintendo-level pricing there or what? If I start upgrading my quite-frankly-aging PC right now for something above average (but yet not "top-notch") it will easily cost me well above $700 up to $900 Canadian even if I go the 'less expensive' way with AMD. So to me, when I see a price like that for a console that is truly what I would call finally "current generation", then sure $500 or even $600 for it would have seemed normal, if anything. Doesn't mean I'd be able to afford it, and certainly doesn't mean I'd want one even if I did have the money to get it, but still... console prices (at launch, at least) don't 'concern' me anymore.
Does anyone remember how much the PS3 cost at launch? Both the 20GB and the 60GB versions?
I actually know, I just checked. The gist is is that I'm wondering if this time it's considered just as bad as it was back in 2006, or just as irrelevant for a console that - at launch and for its respective generation until a better one comes out - is the "best" (hardware-wise) on the market. They obviously labeled it the most powerful console ever created, because it is right now, sure. But so was the [insert a console name here] during its own generation too. And since specs always mattered for a lot of gamers then I wonder how many do not mind about such prices when - ultimately - what comforts them is that they paid a 'premium' for the "best there is", even if it means playing practically no games for it since there's going to be barely any games that will fully exploit the capabilities of the "beast" console that they just paid so much money for.
In the end, personally, when I read about the XBOX One X's price I didn't have any particularly negative reaction to it, to be honest. I only told myself "well, it cost them a crap load of money to design and produce it, now they want at least some of that back". It's a very powerful console, no doubt, but were gamers really expecting Nintendo-level pricing there or what? If I start upgrading my quite-frankly-aging PC right now for something above average (but yet not "top-notch") it will easily cost me well above $700 up to $900 Canadian even if I go the 'less expensive' way with AMD. So to me, when I see a price like that for a console that is truly what I would call finally "current generation", then sure $500 or even $600 for it would have seemed normal, if anything. Doesn't mean I'd be able to afford it, and certainly doesn't mean I'd want one even if I did have the money to get it, but still... console prices (at launch, at least) don't 'concern' me anymore.
Honestly this is a tempting little box at that price point...with that graphics chip, that amount of memory, that cooling solution, and the UHD Blu-ray player, people are crazy to insist that MS should have sold it for less. It's a much better proposition than the XB1 was originally at $499. It's almost enough to be tempting...if only there were exclusive games on it I was interested in. As it is, I'm still more likely to buy a PS4 Pro for Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc.
Yeah, you can argue the wisdom of Microsoft making this "upgrade" to the Xbone in the first place, but for the device they've made, $499 is a reasonable asking price.Again... agreed. The only issue that's raising eyebrows has to be the fact that it's coming after half the generation is over, maybe more. if sony so much as hints another console by e3 2018, microsoft's decision is going to backfire badly. i'll be expecting the new ps to be around 400-500 mark and i doubt ms is going to go below 400 even by the end of next year.
Again... agreed. The only issue that's raising eyebrows has to be the fact that it's coming after half the generation is over, maybe more. if sony so much as hints another console by e3 2018, microsoft's decision is going to backfire badly. i'll be expecting the new ps to be around 400-500 mark and i doubt ms is going to go below 400 even by the end of next year.
Is it a reasonable asking price for the power of the hardware? Definitely yes it is. But we've seen time and time again, consoles priced this high do not sell well, especially when there's something for half the price that can play the same games. If it was even just $50 cheaper it would be much more attractive.Yeah, you can argue the wisdom of Microsoft making this "upgrade" to the Xbone in the first place, but for the device they've made, $499 is a reasonable asking price.
I'm not disagreeing with the price. Is it worth it to gamers when it doesn't really do anything new? Better scaled resolution is fine but no new titles to take advantage of the power yet.Is it a reasonable asking price for the power of the hardware? Definitely yes it is. But we've seen time and time again, consoles priced this high do not sell well, especially when there's something for half the price that can play the same games. If it was even just $50 cheaper it would be much more attractive.
It's all about the bling. And most people thought the idea of M$ selling a $150 controller was nuts and they sold.
I hope not only because there hasn't been enough games released for me to think about a totally new console.
Again... agreed. The only issue that's raising eyebrows has to be the fact that it's coming after half the generation is over, maybe more. if sony so much as hints another console by e3 2018, microsoft's decision is going to backfire badly. i'll be expecting the new ps to be around 400-500 mark and i doubt ms is going to go below 400 even by the end of next year.
As it stands now the XbX sits in a great spot. Being able to be a powerful 4k console with some room to spare version of the Xbox One
I was just thinking the same thing.. how can they talk about releasing a new console when no one really is tapping out what this current version is doing? On the plus side, if Sony does try to release a new console I can only hope the remasters of remakes are the entire launch title lineup.
No, not really. Developers are already using plenty of gimmicks, such as checkerboard rendering, in an attempt to hit 4K.
Regarding the rest of your comment, perhaps Microsoft will never create a "new" generation of consoles. Maybe every 4 years, they'll release a new console with higher specs like they're doing with the XOX. They can require that developers support the two latest versions (and with everything on the same architecture, that shouldn't be inordinately difficult) and developers can support even older versions if they choose. This would make it so that each version of the console is relevant for 8 years, which is plenty of lifespan for your dollar if you can't afford to upgrade every time.
No, not really. Developers are already using plenty of gimmicks, such as checkerboard rendering, in an attempt to hit 4K.
Regarding the rest of your comment, perhaps Microsoft will never create a "new" generation of consoles. Maybe every 4 years, they'll release a new console with higher specs like they're doing with the XOX. They can require that developers support the two latest versions (and with everything on the same architecture, that shouldn't be inordinately difficult) and developers can support even older versions if they choose. This would make it so that each version of the console is relevant for 8 years, which is plenty of lifespan for your dollar if you can't afford to upgrade every time.
If that is the case, the launch X1 will be the last MS console I buy.No, not really. Developers are already using plenty of gimmicks, such as checkerboard rendering, in an attempt to hit 4K.
Regarding the rest of your comment, perhaps Microsoft will never create a "new" generation of consoles. Maybe every 4 years, they'll release a new console with higher specs like they're doing with the XOX. They can require that developers support the two latest versions (and with everything on the same architecture, that shouldn't be inordinately difficult) and developers can support even older versions if they choose. This would make it so that each version of the console is relevant for 8 years, which is plenty of lifespan for your dollar if you can't afford to upgrade every time.
No, not really. Developers are already using plenty of gimmicks, such as checkerboard rendering, in an attempt to hit 4K.
Regarding the rest of your comment, perhaps Microsoft will never create a "new" generation of consoles. Maybe every 4 years, they'll release a new console with higher specs like they're doing with the XOX. They can require that developers support the two latest versions (and with everything on the same architecture, that shouldn't be inordinately difficult) and developers can support even older versions if they choose. This would make it so that each version of the console is relevant for 8 years, which is plenty of lifespan for your dollar if you can't afford to upgrade every time.
I hope not only because there hasn't been enough games released for me to think about a totally new console.