Xbox 1 X is gonna be $499

[Aikouka]

Every panel is different even between two examples of the same model. Their settings may look ok and be close but you can get closer to reference if you do the full calibration. I didn’t calibrate my tv though fwiw.

Yeah, the reason why I wasn't too worried is that I was pretty satisfied with the picture. Although, I was a bit bummed last night when I saw an update for my TV, and when I looked it up, I saw that it didn't include the Dolby Vision upgrade. My Oppo 203 comes tomorrow, and Denon already upgraded the x300 receivers to support Dolby Vision and HLG (the HDR-like format for broadcast TV).

I am tempted to try the calibration on my TCL TV. It's a pretty unfair comparison, but just looking at the TCL TV after using the Sony TV will make you . The backlighting just doesn't seem to dim properly, so you always have that soft glow that makes blacks look more like a dark gray. On the Sony, when I am loading Plex, which has a black background on the loading screen, the black portion looks nearly as dark as the TV does when it's turned off! (Keep in mind that the 55" version of my Sony TV costs like 3x as much as the TCL TV. )

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yeah, the reason why I wasn't too worried is that I was pretty satisfied with the picture. Although, I was a bit bummed last night when I saw an update for my TV, and when I looked it up, I saw that it didn't include the Dolby Vision upgrade. My Oppo 203 comes tomorrow, and Denon already upgraded the x300 receivers to support Dolby Vision and HLG (the HDR-like format for broadcast TV).

I am tempted to try the calibration on my TCL TV. It's a pretty unfair comparison, but just looking at the TCL TV after using the Sony TV will make you . The backlighting just doesn't seem to dim properly, so you always have that soft glow that makes blacks look more like a dark gray. On the Sony, when I am loading Plex, which has a black background on the loading screen, the black portion looks nearly as dark as the TV does when it's turned off! (Keep in mind that the 55" version of my Sony TV costs like 3x as much as the TCL TV. )

HLG is what YouTube uses as well btw. I just don't have a device that can do HDR on YouTube yet.

 

[purbeast0]

Looks like my X1X will be arriving on Thursday from TB. Then iPhone X the next day. Yay for new toys!

 

[tornadog]

Ended up cancelling my project Scorpio preorders. No profit to be had in reselling and I have not turned on my xbox1 all year, so really nothing to keep it either.

 

[zerocool84]

Ended up cancelling my project Scorpio preorders. No profit to be had in reselling and I have not turned on my xbox1 all year, so really nothing to keep it either.

Yea I canceled mine too. I was excited but I honestly only care about Forza on Xbox and have a PS4 Pro already as well. I'll definitely pick it up at a later date though but not at launch, especially with the holiday season coming up, I could use that money on other stuff.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yea I canceled mine too. I was excited but I honestly only care about Forza on Xbox and have a PS4 Pro already as well. I'll definitely pick it up at a later date though but not at launch, especially with the holiday season coming up, I could use that money on other stuff.

When Microsoft dumped their exclusives on Windows it really hurts the Xbox IMO.

 

[Sonikku]

As a PC gamer, I approve of that decision. I feel no need to fork over money for another gaming console.

 

[cmdrdredd]

As a PC gamer, I approve of that decision. I feel no need to fork over money for another gaming console.

I just mean that there's no reason for many to buy an xbox which isn't good for the brand. I had one, now no longer do and am not buying one. Exclusive games is why I own the consoles I own.

 

[Sonikku]

Oh, I understand. I'm just saying what's bad for the Xbox brand has inadvertently been great for me personally. And PC gamers alike that would rather invest Xbox money into better parts to play Microsoft exclusives.

 

[Aikouka]

As a PC gamer, I approve of that decision. I feel no need to fork over money for another gaming console.

Yeah, but as a PC gamer, Microsoft has one of the worst implementations available. All games get installed to the same folder as the Windows Store apps, which makes them completely inaccessible to you. I forget what other basic features aren't available to them, but most people aren't terribly impressed.

...and I'll admit that I purchased Killer Instinct on Steam even though I own it on Xbox One (and consequently, on Windows 10 through the Windows Store).

 

[JujuFish]

I just mean that there's no reason for many to buy an xbox which isn't good for the brand. I had one, now no longer do and am not buying one. Exclusive games is why I own the consoles I own.

You and I have competent PCs, but how many console gamers do? I think it definitely hurts the Xbox, but perhaps not as much as you think it does.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yeah, but as a PC gamer, Microsoft has one of the worst implementations available. All games get installed to the same folder as the Windows Store apps, which makes them completely inaccessible to you. I forget what other basic features aren't available to them, but most people aren't terribly impressed.

...and I'll admit that I purchased Killer Instinct on Steam even though I own it on Xbox One (and consequently, on Windows 10 through the Windows Store).

No mGPU support for the majority of them(all of them?), some poorly optimized ports. Some of us use smaller startup SSD drives but can't choose install folder like you said

 

[cmdrdredd]

You and I have competent PCs, but how many console gamers do? I think it definitely hurts the Xbox, but perhaps not as much as you think it does.

Don't know...I've seen this sentiment posted all over when it was announced.

 

[Aikouka]

Some of us use smaller startup SSD drives but can't choose install folder like you said

Nah, you can move the folder, but it will always install everything to that specific folder.

 

[purbeast0]

You and I have competent PCs, but how many console gamers do? I think it definitely hurts the Xbox, but perhaps not as much as you think it does.

That's a good point. My brother in law is 23 and his only computer ever is a laptop that isn't close to being capable of playing PC games with good settings. I'd think a lot of his peers are in the same situation, having laptops for college and just continuing to use them after the fact.

He can't wait to try out his X1X on his 4K TV.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nah, you can move the folder, but it will always install everything to that specific folder.

You can? I didn’t know that.

 

[cmdrdredd]

That's a good point. My brother in law is 23 and his only computer ever is a laptop that isn't close to being capable of playing PC games with good settings. I'd think a lot of his peers are in the same situation, having laptops for college and just continuing to use them after the fact.

He can't wait to try out his X1X on his 4K TV.

Nvidia’s revenue for gaming grade GPUs in Q3 of last year topped $1billion. That includes discrete graphics cards and laptops. I think you guys underestimate the number of people out there who are buying or building computers for gaming. Microsoft benefits anyway if people buy their games (not to mention they buy windows).

This was the first article I could find on this.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10864/discrete-desktop-gpu-market-trends-q3-2016/4

 

[purbeast0]

Nvidia’s revenue for gaming grade GPUs in Q3 of last year topped $1billion. That includes discrete graphics cards and laptops. I think you guys underestimate the number of people out there who are buying or building computers for gaming. Microsoft benefits anyway if people buy their games (not to mention they buy windows).

This was the first article I could find on this.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10864/discrete-desktop-gpu-market-trends-q3-2016/4

I would bet that VR had a lot to do with that spike, and we don't know yet if it's going to stick around or not. I'd also bet that most people who are into VR are people who were already PC gamers.

 

[sze5003]

I would bet that VR had a lot to do with that spike, and we don't know yet if it's going to stick around or not. I'd also bet that most people who are into VR are people who were already PC gamers.

Could be although that's not why I got my 1080ti. I would say it was more of an enabler for me to get the Rift.

Many of my friends that game use consoles, 98% of them don't have a computer capable of gaming. I've been trying to build a PC for my friend for a few years now. He is just bad at saving any money.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I would bet that VR had a lot to do with that spike, and we don't know yet if it's going to stick around or not. I'd also bet that most people who are into VR are people who were already PC gamers.

That could be I don’t know and there is no way to determine if that is the case either. Anyway there are a lot of computers in use that are very competent gaming machines. More than many may suspect. Not that it really matters in the end, I was just stating how the lack of exclusives makes me disinterested in the Xbox console. They gave me a reason to own one and when they put their exclusives on Windows they basically told me I don’t need an Xbox anymore.

 

[Aikouka]

That's a good point. My brother in law is 23 and his only computer ever is a laptop that isn't close to being capable of playing PC games with good settings. I'd think a lot of his peers are in the same situation, having laptops for college and just continuing to use them after the fact.

He can't wait to try out his X1X on his 4K TV.

That's one area where the push for external GPU through Thunderbolt could help. Essentially, you have a normal laptop that has a Thunderbolt connection on it, which connects to a shoe-box-sized box that contains an off-the-shelf desktop GPU, power supply and usually support for USB connections, Ethernet and maybe an internal hard drive. Performance isn't as good as if the video card was in a normal desktop, but it's more than enough to play games. The important thing is that it means you can have a normal laptop with good battery life that doesn't weigh as much as a sack of bricks, and can still play games when you're at home.

The only issue is that since Thunderbolt isn't a cheap addition because it still isn't built into the chipset. It requires Intel's Alpine Ridge IC to be added to the board. I think Intel was talking about removing the fees associated with it too.

 

[zerocool84]

I stopped doing computer gaming about 5yrs ago when I bought a Radeon 7950 brand new. I know it's changed now that you don't have to upgrade as often but even just five years ago you still had to chase the next upgrade. I got tired of that. Plus the fact that I'm sure most of us know someone that games on a console than a PC so easier to play with friends.

 

[purbeast0]

My X1X has been delivered and is sitting for me at home. However I'm in NYC until like 10pm tonight so I won't be able to mess with it tonight most likely, or just for a little bit if so.

 

[purbeast0]

Didn't have time to hook it up tonight as I got home at like 10:45pm from a day in NYC, but here's some pics of it if anyone gives a fuuuu. It actually came with Gears 4 too, didn't know. Digital codes for the 2 games, and has some special Forza driver Taco Bell suit code too.

 

[zerocool84]

Didn't have time to hook it up tonight as I got home at like 10:45pm from a day in NYC, but here's some pics of it if anyone gives a fuuuu. It actually came with Gears 4 too, didn't know. Digital codes for the 2 games, and has some special Forza driver Taco Bell suit code too.

I must have had like five of those $5 boxes. Yet you've won multiple times on them!!!