XBOX a failure?

[Tallgeese]

Originally posted by: CripplerCrossface
but after scII comes out insert game name here will be the last thing onn my mind

You and me both pal!

Transcending History...a Tale of Souls and Swords!

 

[CripplerCrossface]

Originally posted by: TallGeese

Originally posted by: CripplerCrossface
but after scII comes out insert game name here will be the last thing onn my mind

You and me both pal!

Transcending History...a Tale of Souls and Swords!

tru, tru.

ne more lists?

 

[Tallgeese]

for Xbox...other titles I'm jonesing for (besides Soul Calibur II ):

Xbox Live (my beta kit currently on its way...farkin UPS looks like it farked up the shipping tho, or I'd have had it TODAY! :|)
Unreal Championship
Halo 2
Mech Assault
Brute Force
Splinter Cell
MGS2: Substance
Star Wars: KOTOR
Project Gotham Racing 2
DOA: XV (good soft-core pr0...I mean, rental )
Steel Battalion (but Mrs. Tallgees would bash my head in with that uber-controller if I dropped that much $$$ on it)

and last but not least...

CRIMSON SKIES!!!

 

[Tallgeese]

BTW, don't miss the BIG LIST - XBox Deals thread over in AT's Hot Deals forum
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[LH]

What does the xobx have? Spinter Cell? That's on the PC too. Fable? Beware the beast called Molyneux. Umm, Halo 2? Pretty lame lineup.

When it comes to Fable, Molyneux is a pencil pushing, check signing, Executive producer. BigBlueBox is in control of designing and development. Molyneux, cuts the checks, make sures deadlines are kept, keeps the market/press about it up, and pastes his name all over it. Theres also B.C. but Molyneux is heavily involved in that.

 

[Dragnov]

I think you people have an inferiority complex trying to brag about the console you own trying to justify spending or not spending on something.
Theres games on every console I like, and I really don't give a fsck how "good" one is doing over the other in the market. Heck, as long as the prices keep going down and theres more games being made I'm happy. To each thier own.

So can we PLEASE stop w/ these god damn console threads. Do you people have some kind of personal defficiences that you have to talk about how great your console is or how bad another one is?

 

[CripplerCrossface]

MGS 3 is prob going to be a conditional exclusive for the x-box. Finally game publishers realize that they should publish for xbox first then port to other consoles instead of the other way around.

 

[PoPPeR]

i wish I had an xbox. I have a PS2, and it has some great games, like FFX, Gran Turismo 3, GTA3, all the EA Sports Games (like every other console), NBA Streets, but I wish I had an XBox as well. My Gforce 2 GTS displays better graphics on my PC then my PS2 does.

 

[Shantanu]

Gran Turismo 3
Devil May Cry
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Grand Theft Auto III (A year ago)/GTA: Vice City (which ever one you want to count)
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (A year ago)
Virtua Fighter 4 (cant say its not great, otherwise it wouldnt get good reviews)
Kingdom Hearts
Frequency
I would say for the last spot it'll either be between Jak & Daxter, Twisted Metal: Black, ICO, DDRMAX, or WipeOut Fusion, all got good reviews.

With the exception of Grand Theft Auto, there's not a single game on that list that I would want to play. Half I've never even heard of. Kingdom Hearts? Devil May Cry? Frequency? WTF is that gay @ss bullsh|t.

Xbox has got all the best titles right now, like Halo, Morrowind, Deathrow, Blinx, Rallisport Challenge, etc. They will also have best holiday lineup with Splinter Cell, Steel Battallion, Mech Assault, Unreal Championship, etc.

 

[thawolfman]

Originally posted by: Shantanu

Gran Turismo 3
Devil May Cry
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Grand Theft Auto III (A year ago)/GTA: Vice City (which ever one you want to count)
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (A year ago)
Virtua Fighter 4 (cant say its not great, otherwise it wouldnt get good reviews)
Kingdom Hearts
Frequency
I would say for the last spot it'll either be between Jak & Daxter, Twisted Metal: Black, ICO, DDRMAX, or WipeOut Fusion, all got good reviews.

With the exception of Grand Theft Auto, there's not a single game on that list that I would want to play. Half I've never even heard of. Kingdom Hearts? Devil May Cry? Frequency? WTF is that gay @ss bullsh|t.

Xbox has got all the best titles right now, like Halo, Morrowind, Deathrow, Blinx, Rallisport Challenge, etc. They will also have best holiday lineup with Splinter Cell, Steel Battallion, Mech Assault, Unreal Championship, etc.

Gay ass bullsh!t? ahahahaha

You fanboys crack me up....How can you hate if you've never seen/played it?

I'll eventually own all 3 systems so that I can enjoy the best that everyone has to offer(Currently own a PS2 w/ an XBOX to come soon, then a GC for Zelda), but hey, hate on.

 

[CripplerCrossface]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
I think you people have an inferiority complex trying to brag about the console you own trying to justify spending or not spending on something.
Theres games on every console I like, and I really don't give a fsck how "good" one is doing over the other in the market. Heck, as long as the prices keep going down and theres more games being made I'm happy. To each thier own.

So can we PLEASE stop w/ these god damn console threads. Do you people have some kind of personal defficiences that you have to talk about how great your console is or how bad another one is?

I dont know what u are talking aboot. This is one of the most objective console threads i have seen. I havent read a post that said x-box sucks or anyone call the ps2 a pos2. Yeah there are grat games on all consoles, but unfortunalely i dont have a couple of thousand bucks to burn on video games. btw dont use the lords name in vain

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

The Game Cube For th most part Sucks, They joined the DVD/CD race WAY too late. they have some nice games lined up but they are a late contender. Unless Nintendo makes a bold move and starts putting out some Killer games, I think it'll fall to the wayside much like Sega has.

The only thing that Nintendo has going for them is that Squaresoft has got a limited contract with them. I hope to god Square doing't end up putting out the next in the series of incredable RPG's they make to the Gamecube. OTherwise they will lose alot of dedicated fans and players.

The PS2 has a much larger Market share, but it is not yet deeply rooted technology. In comparison it is still new technology and they still havn't pushed it's limits. Microsoft is trying to get ahead of the game by releasing the X-Box II sooner than planned. I think we are going to see newer consol systems out quicker and quicker than anticpated.

I think the big contender is going to end up with the online play with the MMORPG. The PS2 has got adaptive hook up for both 56k dialup and Broadband, the setup for dialup is well created and a good stable interface.

The XBoX is going to be Broadband only. Microsoft is trying to use only the current technology. which is going to hurt them in the near future.

However the only seeble advantage that the XBoX has that I see is the HDD. Other than that. I think MS is going to have a Hard fight to game enough of market share to be much of a contender.

And despite what romurs Say MS, isn't planning on putting an windows Based OS on the console. But as most know, With MS rumors end up being truth. But only time will tell.

 

[Feebes]

It doesnt matter whether we "like" the XBOX or not. They were trying to take over the console gaming market. They failed at that.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Ganryu
What's the problem with sequels if they are good? My point is that Xbox was a failure because it does not have any hot exclusive games, with the exception of Halo (which I don't even like) and a couple of others. Even Gamecube has promising games such as the metroid and zelda sequels and the staple mario. People keep mentioning Xbox live but the problem is that its going to cost a lot of money. 50 bucks a year + 10 bucks a month after that. PS2 is a one time $40 investment.

One time $40 investment? lol, you must be joking. Each software company needs to develop their own network and run their own servers. They are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart. EA Sports will charge maybe $40/year and Square may charge $20/year etc... Each company can charge whatever they want, and they will charge...maybe even monthly.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Shantanu

Gran Turismo 3
Devil May Cry
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Grand Theft Auto III (A year ago)/GTA: Vice City (which ever one you want to count)
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (A year ago)
Virtua Fighter 4 (cant say its not great, otherwise it wouldnt get good reviews)
Kingdom Hearts
Frequency
I would say for the last spot it'll either be between Jak & Daxter, Twisted Metal: Black, ICO, DDRMAX, or WipeOut Fusion, all got good reviews.

With the exception of Grand Theft Auto, there's not a single game on that list that I would want to play. Half I've never even heard of. Kingdom Hearts? Devil May Cry? Frequency? WTF is that gay @ss bullsh|t.

Xbox has got all the best titles right now, like Halo, Morrowind, Deathrow, Blinx, Rallisport Challenge, etc. They will also have best holiday lineup with Splinter Cell, Steel Battallion, Mech Assault, Unreal Championship, etc.

Just because *you* don't want to play them doesn't mean they're not good games. Kingdom Hearts is flat out awesome. The XBox titles you list aren't the best titles out there...only in your opinion. Oh, and he left Tekken 4 off the list.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

Originally posted by: CripplerCrossface

The ps2 didnt have any noteworthy games until 1.5 years after its release

GT3, MGS2, ICO, GTA3, and FFX were all out in less then 1.5 years of the ps2 launch...

ps2 release march 2000. mgs nov 2001,gta 3 oct 2001, ffX dec 2001[/quote]

The games aren't solely devloped by sony, Do you think Sony Needs to push the sales of games? hardly.

And everyones idea of "noteworthy games" are different msot people have different tastes.

 

[mithrandir2001]

Too soon to call it a failure but I am a little underwhelmed.

However, it took almost 2 years for the PS2 to hit its stride. 2002 has been the year of the PS2, as you would expect for a console in its 3rd year. Great games and FINALLY none of this $299 crap. I was really mad at Sony for charging $300 for a stinkin' console for as long as they did. But now that the PS2 costs the same as the XBOX, the PS2 is a no-brainer. With a great library that seems to gain great titles all the time, you aren't going to go wrong with a PS2. XBOX is still questionable, though the investment is smaller than it had been.

I'm still stuck on Dreamcast. I'm not going the PS2 route until I finish all these DC RPGs.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Too soon to call it a failure but I am a little underwhelmed.

However, it took almost 2 years for the PS2 to hit its stride. 2002 has been the year of the PS2, as you would expect for a console in its 3rd year. Great games and FINALLY none of this $299 crap. I was really mad at Sony for charging $300 for a stinkin' console for as long as they did. But now that the PS2 costs the same as the XBOX, the PS2 is a no-brainer. With a great library that seems to gain great titles all the time, you aren't going to go wrong with a PS2. XBOX is still questionable, though the investment is smaller than it had been.

I'm still stuck on Dreamcast. I'm not going the PS2 route until I finish all these DC RPGs.

I agree that $300 for a console was too much. When you have zero competition, you can dictate price.

In terms of sales, the PS2 was striding from day one and hasn't stopped.

I still play Soul Caliber on my DC all the time (I also play Vampire Savior and Dungeons and Dragon on my Saturn all the time).

 

[SagaLore]

I don't understand how xbox could be any high achievement consider that it's just a modified celeron wintel board with a chopped up NT kernel running on it.

It's not like they put a lot of effort into it... just $$$...

Your basically buying a laptop without the screen or peripherals but low ram and hard drive space, and your being charged extra $$$ for the games because MS is actually in the hole for each box sold. (kind of like Webtv, they lost money each machine sold, but got it back in internet signup)


I should probably sue MS because they stole my idea. In 1997 I started an OS project called GameOS, which was going to be an OS built to run games on an Intel box. Unfortunately the group fell apart and so did the project :disgust:

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

Originally posted by: CripplerCrossface

Originally posted by: SOSTrooper
Gran Turismo 3
Devil May Cry
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Grand Theft Auto III (A year ago)/GTA: Vice City (which ever one you want to count)
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (A year ago)
Virtua Fighter 4 (cant say its not great, otherwise it wouldnt get good reviews)
Kingdom Hearts
Frequency
I would say for the last spot it'll either be between Jak & Daxter, Twisted Metal: Black, ICO, DDRMAX, or WipeOut Fusion, all got good reviews.

Also dont try to say GTA3 and Dark Alliance will be on or already on other platforms, cuz I can pretty much say the same with Halo, which defeats the purpose. Doesnt matter how long it takes to come out for a platform, it comes out sooner or later. But those were exclusives when they came out.

GT3- good but quite old.
DMC- see above
mgs2-coming to xbox
gta3- on pc
vice city-coming to pc
vf4- coming to xbox
KH- ok
freq- wouldnt call that a must have, to each his own
jak&dakster-ok
twisted metal-ok

got aboot there would give u five if i liked rhythm games. i want complete exclusives people. not conditional exclusives.

Shadow Hearts and the castlvina Series aren't being released tot he Xbox

 

[CripplerCrossface]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Too soon to call it a failure but I am a little underwhelmed.

However, it took almost 2 years for the PS2 to hit its stride. 2002 has been the year of the PS2, as you would expect for a console in its 3rd year. Great games and FINALLY none of this $299 crap. I was really mad at Sony for charging $300 for a stinkin' console for as long as they did. But now that the PS2 costs the same as the XBOX, the PS2 is a no-brainer. With a great library that seems to gain great titles all the time, you aren't going to go wrong with a PS2. XBOX is still questionable, though the investment is smaller than it had been.

I'm still stuck on Dreamcast. I'm not going the PS2 route until I finish all these DC RPGs.

Im still stuck on the Dreamcast too.
I disagree however about the ps2. everyone keeps talking about games. I asked someone to make me a list. out of the whole thread no one can come up with ten exclusive games that i would actually pay money for. ps2 is not a no-brainer cause it has already hit its peak as u said. the xbox will continue to rise.

 

[Shantanu]

Shadow Hearts and the castlvina Series aren't being released tot he Xbox

Like anyone gives a sh|t. LOL.

 

Originally posted by: CripplerCrossface
I'm still stuck on Dreamcast. I'm not going the PS2 route until I finish all these DC RPGs.

You do know the Xbox is outsold weekly by the PS1 (yes PS ONE) in Japan? You also know that without Japanese developer support it will be extremely hard to keep a console alive, even for someone with Microsoft's money. Ever wonder why the Xbox is littered with PC ports? Besides Sega, Japan hardly wants to touch it.

 

[CripplerCrossface]

Shadow Hearts and the castlvina Series aren't being released tot he Xbox

never heard of shadow hearts and castlevania isnt worth me getting another system. besides i can play it on my gba.

 

[thawolfman]

Originally posted by: Shantanu

Shadow Hearts and the castlvina Series aren't being released tot he Xbox

Like anyone gives a sh|t. LOL.