Xbox One S All-Digital Edition

Skel

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Microsoft is releasing a version of the Xbox One S without a disk drive.

While I like the idea of digital as it's less clutter in my home, I have to say I'm not a fan of locking me into their digial store. I like the option of buying elsewhere when it strikes me, and I also like having a Blu ray player for when it strikes me to buy a movie. Not sure how this will go over, but I do think it's the future. I doubt either of the big game console makers will be leaving profit on the table that comes with funneling game sales through them.
 

SteveGrabowski

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You'd think they would have made it smaller with no blu ray drive, but nope. So I don't see the appeal of this thing at all when it's the same size as the XBox One S and more expensive than the street price of the XBox One S.
 

ultimatebob

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So, how much is this thing? I'm hoping that it would only be $149, and have a much smaller case.

Edit: Oh, wait, I just saw the CNet review of it. It's still the same size, and costs $249?? WTF?!? Wasn't the original XBox One S with a BluRay drive only $189 during the Black Friday sales??
 
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homebrew2ny

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I have been thinking about this for a while now...

First, I think the price is unreasonable and unsustainable. I bought my x1s for $199 at best buy long ago and they are routinely found for $249, the asking price of the new ADE X1s...

Having said that, I have both the X and the S, and can count on one hand the times I used the disk drives over the years... For me they are practically useless, but I still want the option.

Having said all that, I am not opposed to the new ADE x1s. If I did not already have a S to compliment my X, I would have no problem buying one if the price was right.

But at $249, its not...

I gaurentee they will be at $199 much sooner then later..
 

ultimatebob

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I have been thinking about this for a while now...

First, I think the price is unreasonable and unsustainable. I bought my x1s for $199 at best buy long ago and they are routinely found for $249, the asking price of the new ADE X1s...

Having said that, I have both the X and the S, and can count on one hand the times I used the disk drives over the years... For me they are practically useless, but I still want the option.

Having said all that, I am not opposed to the new ADE x1s. If I did not already have a S to compliment my X, I would have no problem buying one if the price was right.

But at $249, its not...

I gaurentee they will be at $199 much sooner then later..

I used to use the BluRay drive on my XBox One quite a bit back when I was still a Netflix DVD by mail subscriber. Now? Not so much. The last time I used it was when the cable went out and my wife got a DVD from Red Box.
 

SteveGrabowski

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So, how much is this thing? I'm hoping that it would only be $149, and have a much smaller case.

Edit: Oh, wait, I just saw the CNet review of it. It's still the same size, and costs $249?? WTF?!? Wasn't the original XBox One S with a BluRay drive only $189 during the Black Friday sales??

Newegg has the XB1S for $200 right now.
 

quikah

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I would assume once it is released and readily available it will join the rest of the line with the regular sales making it ~$50 less than the regular X1S. I don't really see much point to it, $50 is not that big of a deal. If it came with 6 months of gamepass and was $50 less it would be more enticing.
 

JujuFish

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I don't know how someone with influence at Microsoft didn't look at the name of this and see Xbox One SAD Edition.
 
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For the people pointing out the price (and how the regular One S is often cheaper on sale), don't be surprised if this leads to the disc version being phased out, with them saying that if you want the disc drive pony up for the One X, and that those good prices maybe were to clear stock out.

But I think most of all this is just a trial product (hence why they didn't bother changing the form factor or anything). I am guessing we'll see them announce some payment plan/bundling thing with GamePass (I forget if they'd already done the subscription thing with hardware, I know they'd considered it but couldn't recall if they actually offered it?) or maybe they do some trial game streaming trial/beta thing before they release a streaming focused system (which might be as soon as next year). There's little risk in it for them, if it bombs then they can keep selling the disc based version (and didn't have to spend any money on a redesign or anything, which would've required a new mainboard in order to make it much smaller as its not like the optical drive took up the entire half of the console). And this is introductory/exploratory pricing too, so it'll probably be $199 during the holiday sales, and probably include GamePass/Live offers and games (which doesn't it come with 3 games now?).

was there an analog edition?

I would laugh if they made an Xbox that played vinyl records.
 

Skel

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For the people pointing out the price (and how the regular One S is often cheaper on sale), don't be surprised if this leads to the disc version being phased out, with them saying that if you want the disc drive pony up for the One X, and that those good prices maybe were to clear stock out.

But I think most of all this is just a trial product (hence why they didn't bother changing the form factor or anything). I am guessing we'll see them announce some payment plan/bundling thing with GamePass (I forget if they'd already done the subscription thing with hardware, I know they'd considered it but couldn't recall if they actually offered it?) or maybe they do some trial game streaming trial/beta thing before they release a streaming focused system (which might be as soon as next year). There's little risk in it for them, if it bombs then they can keep selling the disc based version (and didn't have to spend any money on a redesign or anything, which would've required a new mainboard in order to make it much smaller as its not like the optical drive took up the entire half of the console). And this is introductory/exploratory pricing too, so it'll probably be $199 during the holiday sales, and probably include GamePass/Live offers and games (which doesn't it come with 3 games now?).



I would laugh if they made an Xbox that played vinyl records.

I'm not sure why you think this is just a trial product. All of the console makers are pushing their digital storefronts. It's been only a matter of time till they came out with a diskless version. As for not changing the name or look, why cause market confusion? At best you'd be cannibalizing your own market, at worst you'd be attacked for it not being a next gen version because people would see a new name and think it was. If anything I think we'll get maybe one more generation before they start phasing out the disk drives completely.
 
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I'm not sure why you think this is just a trial product. All of the console makers are pushing their digital storefronts. It's been only a matter of time till they came out with a diskless version. As for not changing the name or look, why cause market confusion? At best you'd be cannibalizing your own market, at worst you'd be attacked for it not being a next gen version because people would see a new name and think it was. If anything I think we'll get maybe one more generation before they start phasing out the disk drives completely.

By trial I mean they release it and see how it does. We know the next gen isn't far off so all One versions might potentially be out of production within a year (Microsoft allegedly will launch 2 new consoles, one will be a lower cost one that is focused on streaming, and then one that is a more traditional setup).

Yes, yet they haven't done that (made digital only consoles; well I think Sony made some portable and then the little Playstation Home or whatever that was basically a Vita's processor in a box with I think USB, HDMI, and networking), so they don't know how consumers will react to it (not sure if you recall, but when Microsoft talked about all digital while even using discs at the One reveal gamers freaked the f*** out and got very angry).

Because it'd cost money to rework the system. They can't fundamentally change the shape without redesigning the mainboard as I mentioned. The mainboard is about the size of the footprint of the case (its not like removing the optical drive they can ditch that whole side of the system, the optical drive and HDD was above the mainboard on that side, and the heatsink+fan and power supply was above it on the other). Plus minimal change to the outside case.

Er, I don't think Microsoft is worried about that or else they wouldn't have released it at all (unless, perhaps its a trial to see how consumers react to it?). Plus like I already posited, they might have stopped or paused production of the One S with the disc drive, so there might not be confusion to be had or sales to cannibalize, as they'd have just the One S digital and the One X. This pushes people that want the disc to pony up a premium from now on (which I have a hunch will become the norm).

Except its not a new name? They've released tons of versions of the One S, and this is just another. They did the same thing with the 360 (especially towards the end). All of the console makers seem to make a bunch of versions of their systems. I don't

I partially agree, in that I think the consoles after the next generation basically become simple terminals for digital/streaming services so they'll have little reason for a disc drive.

I actually think we might see the disc drives become optional extras on the next gen (which I think Microsoft will probably split it so that their streaming focused one won't have a disc drive, while the higher priced one would have it - which is why I see them making the One S disc-less but leave the option of the One X if you want the disc drive; I could see Sony do something similar where they sell a standard PS5 and then a higher priced one with the disc drive and maybe more storage for like an extra $100; possibly they even go the external route like the HD-DVD drive on the 360; heck maybe Microsoft would let you just plug in external Blu-ray drives that already exist for PC).
 

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The whole selling point of the xbox 1 S was supposed to be the 4k blueray player. But its obvious based on their pricing that MS intends to phase out the current disc player version of xbox1s and discontinue it after current stock is sold out.
 

ultimatebob

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I still can't help but think that the real reason this product exists is because they plan on lowering the price to $149 this Christmas with copy of something like Madden or Forza preinstalled. You know... one last hurrah before the next gen consoles come out in 2020-2021.
 

Sonikku

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I don't know how someone with influence at Microsoft didn't look at the name of this and see Xbox One SAD Edition.
This is the company that called the thing the Xbox One knowing full well that that's what we've been calling the original Xbox since the dawn of the Xbox 360.
 

Sonikku

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For the people pointing out the price (and how the regular One S is often cheaper on sale), don't be surprised if this leads to the disc version being phased out, with them saying that if you want the disc drive pony up for the One X, and that those good prices maybe were to clear stock out.
Don't be surprised if a move like that ends up with people buying a PS4 slim/Pro instead.

See, here's the thing about Microsoft. They're very very good at telling us why buying their products with fewer features and options is good for them. Not so good at giving us a compelling reason as for why it's good for us, when Sony is beating the crap out of them and still manages to offer better deals. Microsoft got blindsided by this behavior during their disasterous E3 debut as well.
 

sxr7171

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Correct if I am wrong. Isn’t the Xbox a UHD Blu-ray player also? And it is also one of the best? At least it used to be. At least it is also software upgradable. So that feature is complete loss on this.
 
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