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[TreVader]

If you think that $500 PC will still be running games in 3 years at acceptable frame rates you're kidding yourself. And it's still more expensive than consoles.



You cannot get as good of a gaming experience for $500 with a PC as you can with a next gen console. PCs are great but fanboyism isn't.

 

[purbeast0]

Mario Kart with my friends taking turns doing split screen was one of my favorite local multiplayer racing games of all time. Goodness the memories

yeah 2/3 battle mode on SNES version was so much fun with a group of people. we'd also do the 150cc cups, but usually only my friend and i would do those because no one could beat us.

 

[ImpulsE69]

If you think that $500 PC will still be running games in 3 years at acceptable frame rates you're kidding yourself. And it's still more expensive than consoles.



You cannot get as good of a gaming experience for $500 with a PC as you can with a next gen console. PCs are great but fanboyism isn't.

Neither are people who say things like what you just typed. No one said that. It's the same as saying "all PC people buy $500 cards" It's BS "fanboyism" on your end. At the end of the day, I can tell you now my system is 2 years old with a 3 year old card in it playing everything coming out just fine. 100% ultra? probably not, but still much much better than anything that is still coming out on Xbox 360/PS3 or even the new crop. So yes, how about trying actually knowing what you are talking about first?

Why is this the case? Well let me tell you! BECAUSE 90% of the games coming out are still baselined on 8 year old tech!

Ok so, maybe you upgrade parts every couple years? You are still doing MORE with a PC than a console. Of course everyone wants to compare them as if all you would do on a PC is game. I bet those same people have a laptop or some form of "computer" they do things on. So they still have spent more money on everything combined than just getting a PC.

I'm not pro/anti, I just tire of the constant BS touted by people who clearly don't have an idea what they are talking about.

I probably am anti this gen though, not a whole lot to be excited about, people have had cameras and been able to talk to their pc's for years, as well as dvr, and just about everything else...and no it doesn't cost $500 to do it. People are so hung up on some assumption that they are the same thing as a console it is laughable. A console is a console, that is all. A PC is so much more.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yet for all you wrote, there are games that will never see a PC release. So I can build a PC and spend well past $1500 on it with sli cards etc but I still need a ps4 to play uncharted, mlb the show, infamous, and the next round of jrpgs. Then I also need an xb1 to play halo, sunset overdrive, killer instinct, forza etc.

So it isn't exactly as you said. For many of us the excitement is not the hardware at all or watching TV. It is the next round of games from our favorite developers with enhanced game engines on display that will never be released on steam.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yet for all you wrote, there are hundreds of games that will never see a PC release.

I think 100's is an exaggeration considering each gen has had less and less must have games, but yes, but one can get by just fine. It's kind of like people who HAVE to have sports channels or cable. There are plenty of OTHER things you can spend your time on that aren't those. Your life won't be less w/o it.

And..if you want to go that route, the same can still be said for PC. Obviously if you have both, this is a non issue, but to sit here and (in this era) STILL argue the cost factor is just....naive.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I think 100's is an exaggeration considering each gen has had less and less must have games, but yes, but one can get by just fine. It's kind of like people who HAVE to have sports channels or cable. There are plenty of OTHER things you can spend your time on that aren't those. Your life won't be less w/o it.

And..if you want to go that route, the same can still be said for PC. Obviously if you have both, this is a non issue, but to sit here and (in this era) STILL argue the cost factor is just....naive.

I edited my post a bit to expand on what I was trying to say.

Maybe for you but I have purchased more games in the last 5 years than I ever have before. Gaming is better than ever for me. The shovelware is significantly less these days it seems. It was much easier in my experience to find a truly bad game back on the SNES and Genesis. Partially I think due to development costs involved.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Maybe for you but I have purchased more games in the last 5 years than I ever have before. Gaming is better than ever for me. The shovelware is significantly less these days it seems. It was much easier in my experience to find a truly bad game back on the SNES and Genesis.

I'm not saying you aren't or it isn't. However, how many must have exclusive games are there? Not that many. Consider the cost of buying both consoles and the jacked up prices of those games (we'll assume you aren't waiting to buy everything after it is in the bargain bin) and you've spent more money than someone who owns just a PC and they can still play 80% (or more) of those games.

Even though I finally bought a PS3, I only find it so so. It is nice for a change of pace, but hardly something I feel like I HAD to have or I missed out. The games are terribly stuttery. It amazes me that people accept that.

..and I will state again. I am not anti console by any means. I just have found them to be less of a value in the last few gens.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I seem to find a lot of exclusives that keep me buying nearly every console and handheld.

Also games aren't terribly stuttery, you are just looking for problems. Most people wouldn't even know what you're talking about I'd you tried to point it out. I have seen some framerate issues but stuttering? Not so much because I don't go out of my way to look for it in every single game.

Its fine if you don't like the consoles, but preaching about PC on the console forum is old. I dunno where you pull that 80% number from. A lot of genres are all but dead on PC like jrpgs. Those aren't even exclusives many times.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I seem to find a lot of exclusives that keep me buying nearly every console and handheld.

Also games aren't terribly stuttery, you are just looking for problems. Most people wouldn't even know what you're talking about I'd you tried to point it out. I have seen some framerate issues but stuttering? Not so much because I don't go out of my way to look for it in every single game.

Its fine if you don't like the consoles, but preaching about PC on the console forum is old. I dunno where you pull that 80% number from. A lot of genres are all but dead on PC like jrpgs. Those aren't even exclusives many times.

I'm not preaching PC's, but when people throw out (over and over) the OMG let's see you do that with $XXX I'm trying to steer some misconceptions from people who have outdated ideas. I agree on the genre issue especially JPGS...however those were never REALLY on PC to begin with and the primary reason I actually still even care about consoles at all. When you think about it though, FPS which used to be primarily PC is now baselined on consoles.