XBox One w/o Kinect for $400

[prism]

http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/13/xbox-one-400-dollars/

 

[Bman123]

Everyone knew this was coming. I'm surprised it took this long

 

[Sonikku]

So now it's just a weaker Playstation for the same price. Nintendo And M$ really blew it this gen on the gimmicks. If they wanted to sell us on them, they should have done something compelling with them.

 

[exdeath]

So now it's just a weaker Playstation for the same price. Nintendo And M$ really blew it this gen on the gimmicks. If they wanted to sell us on them, they should have done something compelling with them.

At least Nintendo finally gets it and is targeting a diff market with QOL platform for their waggle nonsense.

If you are in the video game market, you make VIDEO GAMES ONLY. We don't want your "fitness" gimmicks and integration with our TV and dish washer.

 

[ponyo]

And MS finally got rid of the silly requirement of needing Gold membership just to stream Netflix on the 360 and One. It doesn't effect me since I don't use Netflix but it was a stupid requirement.

 

[purbeast0]

i gotta eat crow because i definitely did not think this would be happening this soon, if at all. all i gotta say though is i gotta give ms some props for listening to the people with many of their decisions they've changed. i wonder if this means i can trade in my kinect somewhere and it will actually have some kind of value now.

 

[exdeath]

Now Banjo Kazooie and Conker @ E3 and they can catch up with PS4.

Without Kinect they need exclusives. Can't compare resolution or fps when you can't get the game elsewhere.

 

[purbeast0]

So now it's just a weaker Playstation for the same price. Nintendo And M$ really blew it this gen on the gimmicks. If they wanted to sell us on them, they should have done something compelling with them.

can you tell me where i could find killer instinct on the more powerful ps4? i need 1080p because the 100s of hours i've put into it in 720p simply aren't cutting it. i'm tired of counting pixels instead of being able to have fun playing the game.

 

[Arkaign]

Now Banjo Kazooie and Conker @ E3 and they can catch up with PS4.

Without Kinect they need exclusives. Can't compare resolution or fps when you can't get the game elsewhere.

Truth. Exclusives or death. Multiplats for the huge games are just wins for PS4.

 

[railven]

Truth. Exclusives or death. Multiplats for the huge games are just wins for PS4.

If end of gen 7 indicates anything Sony wins on exclusives and even multiplats.

Going to be one hell of a gen for xbone. Prior to this announcement wasn't even worth talking about. Hopefully halo2 Anni is real and soon. Dust is so thick on my console.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Aw man, this is sad. I was looking forward so some cool Kinect games this generation, but this move takes it from being a core part of the console to being an accessory.

 

[exdeath]

XBox doesn't even need to have MORE exclusives either. It just needs enough of it's own games like Conker that you simply CAN'T not have.

 

[Lil Frier]

That's nearly impossible to do, because people have different preferences. For example, Sony can't sell me on the PS4 because I don't care about their exclusives, except for The Show.

Meanwhile, you say Microsoft needs must-have stuff, and I'm already looking at a decent bit of it, from my point of view. Sunset Overdrive looks cool. I'll always buy into Halo, and possibly Gears (though I skipped the last one). Quantum Break looks nice. They've also got Titanfall and Forza right now, plus Fable in the future, Project Spark in beta, and whatever else they haven't announced. I think Microsoft's done a fine job in the first-year exclusive department (though Halo sounds like it'll leak into 2015 and miss that first-year window).

 

[BarkingGhostar]

I squeaked so many times, on so many boards, and every Friday and Saturday night on Xbox Live. I know M$ likes to let the feds listen in on Skype and I was betting M$ themselves listen in on voice chatter on Live, so I and my friends rant every freaking weekend.

Change is good and we look forward to not ranting for a while. Still, we've already invested in staying on the 360 so M$ blew it in our opinion.

 

[Arkaign]

Halo 2 remake should be this fall though. There really would be no excuse for it not to make it out the door. Staggering it would help a lot, as releasing both H2HD and H5 same year would be a mistake (split MP bases, etc).

Though it remains to be seen whether Halo still has the same impact it once had. I am thinking one of their new IPs will take off, and Halo is sort of played out at this point (like God of War, Gears, etc).

 

[Golgatha]

So now it's just a weaker Playstation for the same price. Nintendo And M$ really blew it this gen on the gimmicks. If they wanted to sell us on them, they should have done something compelling with them.

How is the state of DLNA support on the XBox One? Maybe that's a selling point?

 

[Arkaign]

How is the state of DLNA support on the XBox One? Maybe that's a selling point?

It's not there yet, but this kind of move, even if it's not everything they need to really jumpstart things, tells me they're willing to get things like DLNA done right.

I can see why they (and Sony) have dithered on it, it presents a threat to their controlled ecosystem of selling content that THEY get a cut on. But the consumers are speaking, and whoever gets the right story out on things like DLNA will have an advantage to work with.

 

[preslove]

So, what does this mean for profitability per unit?

 

[Lil Frier]

Halo 2 remake should be this fall though. There really would be no excuse for it not to make it out the door. Staggering it would help a lot, as releasing both H2HD and H5 same year would be a mistake (split MP bases, etc).

Though it remains to be seen whether Halo still has the same impact it once had. I am thinking one of their new IPs will take off, and Halo is sort of played out at this point (like God of War, Gears, etc).

This Halo 2 remake speculation/expectation just brings back the sadness over not having backwards compatibility. I'd like for them to have a Halo collection on the One, for those who missed parts of the story (particularly Halo 2 on 360). A perfect world would have had the Halo and Halo 2 anniversary games out in 2014, Halo 5 in 2015, then Halo 3/Reach/Halo 4 remakes in 2016, so the whole story (maybe even ODST?) was on the platform. With the intention of pushing Halo as a TV series coming as well, getting the whole story together would probably be for the best.

 

[railven]

That's nearly impossible to do, because people have different preferences. For example, Sony can't sell me on the PS4 because I don't care about their exclusives, except for The Show.

Meanwhile, you say Microsoft needs must-have stuff, and I'm already looking at a decent bit of it, from my point of view. Sunset Overdrive looks cool. I'll always buy into Halo, and possibly Gears (though I skipped the last one). Quantum Break looks nice. They've also got Titanfall and Forza right now, plus Fable in the future, Project Spark in beta, and whatever else they haven't announced. I think Microsoft's done a fine job in the first-year exclusive department (though Halo sounds like it'll leak into 2015 and miss that first-year window).

When you remove the games with PC ports, that list continues to shrink. Which is something that doesn't happen to Sony exclusives as often as it does MSFT ones.

Why my PS3 is still hooked up while the X360 is in the cabinet. I buy these consoles for their exclusive games, of which one is lacking. I already burned through the true "Only on Xbox" games (and for that Sony games) and it just feels like my Xbone gets the least amount of time in the spotlight.

Anyone want to buy a Kinect 2.0 and Day One achievement card?

Halo 2 remake should be this fall though. There really would be no excuse for it not to make it out the door. Staggering it would help a lot, as releasing both H2HD and H5 same year would be a mistake (split MP bases, etc).

Though it remains to be seen whether Halo still has the same impact it once had. I am thinking one of their new IPs will take off, and Halo is sort of played out at this point (like God of War, Gears, etc).

Judging by Halo 4 numbers, I wouldn't say Halo has the same impact, but at this point just give me something to do on the console.

 

[zerocool84]

i gotta eat crow because i definitely did not think this would be happening this soon, if at all. all i gotta say though is i gotta give ms some props for listening to the people with many of their decisions they've changed. i wonder if this means i can trade in my kinect somewhere and it will actually have some kind of value now.

Me too, I thought there was no way within the first year something like this was happening. The top brass must have gotten scared about the two million lead the PS4 has so they did this.

 

[Lil Frier]

When you remove the games with PC ports, that list continues to shrink. Which is something that doesn't happen to Sony exclusives as often as it does MSFT ones.

Yes, but that's not the real point here, we're discussing the compelling features of one console over the other. Part of the matter with that is Microsoft has a computer OS and Sony doesn't. I imagine if Sony had a PC OS, Uncharted would find its way there, just as Project Spark and Halo: Spartan Assault (along with the first 2 Halo titles and the first Gears) made it to Windows.

Even if Microsoft's console exclusives make it to PC, it's not like that's an incentive to buy a PS4, because it doesn't change the fact that a big number of exclusives for them comes from indie titles, which really aren't console-sellers. And, heck, a lot of those indie titles are on PC...a Microsoft platform, so the story doesn't really change. Sony's building its "console-exclusive" list with games Microsoft offers via PC (even if Steam's the real distributor), so take those away the same you take Titanfall, Halo: Spartan Assault, Garden Warfare, and Project Spark, and I imagine that you get a similarly-large drop in "true exclusives" from Sony.

 

[preslove]

Me too, I thought there was no way within the first year something like this was happening. The top brass must have gotten scared about the two million lead the PS4 has so they did this.

The top brass is scared that MSFT will sell/spin them off, if sales don't improve. It's do or die time for the entire division.

 

[Slug]

F&@k you Microsoft. I preordered your console 6 months in advance to get a Day One Edition. With no game. Then you drop the price $50 AND give away Titanfall for free with the console. Now no kinect (with I don't use) and down to $399. The only game I won't buy for my PS4 instead will be the next Halo.

End of rant

 

[Sohaltang]

Frankly it's not a good deal. You could already get the xbox with the Kinect for 450 and included a 60 dollar game. Now the xbox has the same features and same price as PS4 but still can't render games at 1080/60fps. If xbox wants to compete in this console war 299$ would be reasonable. They already said the Kinect cost them 100$ to include. Dropping the Kinect and not beating PS4 price is a poor move.